Ain't it just awful that Moore actually takes money for his film? How low can one get. Let's take a look at the Fox crew. They got a guy in Ollie North that is a convicted felon that needs to still be in prison for his part in Iran Contra. New Gingrich took a bribe for his role in getting the Telecommunications Act passed for R.Murdock at the detriment of the American people and got tossed. Joe Scarborough pulled an O.J and had a intern he was rumored to be 'hittin' just somehow fall and die in his office. They got O'Reilly lying about his show receiving two Peabody awards. Maybe they can convince Ryan the illinois senator candidate that liked to see his wife pronged by dwarves in sex clubs to come aboard. That would certainly be the crowning jewel to an organization that is so morally repelled by Clinton's bj that it talks about it everynight. Only in America.
Haskell and Ebert: Farenheit 911 Part II
- Thread starter Eddie Haskell
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One Missing Intern, One Dead Congressman's Aide
I have tried my damnedest to avoid the Chandra Levy coverage. The case of the missing intern and the media frenzy it has inspired pretty much exemplifies everything that is wrong with television "news" these days, and cable news in particular. One of those things being the CONSERVATIVE bias and corporate control that pervades all cable news channels. Because the missing woman had an affair with a Democratic congressman, it is 24-7 smear and speculation. Have you ever heard the name Lori Klausutis?? I didn't think so.
Ms. Klausutis was a 27 year old marathon runner who worked in the Florida offices of Republican Representative Joe Scarborough. Mr. Scarborough suddenly resigned from Congress on June 20, 2001, saying he wanted to spend more time with his family. Ms. Klausutis was found dead in his offices on July 21, 2001. When her body was initially found, the medical examiner made a statement that there were no marks on the body and an autopsy would be conducted. It turns out that in reality, the woman had a blow to the head. This medical examiner had once had his license revoked for falsifying information. The doctor admitted that his office had lied in its initial statement so as to avoid a lot of media inquiry. "The last thing we wanted was 40 questions about a head injury," he told the Northwest Florida Daily News. The coroner concluded that Ms. Klausutis had fainted due to an undiagnosed heart valve problem and died when she struck her head on a desk. Those are the FACTS.
Now play a little game: substitute "Gary Condit" for "Joe Scarborough". Think you would have heard of this story by now? Think it might be on your CNN/MSNBC/FauxNews right now? I'd put major money on it. So what's my point, that there is a conspiracy to cover up the real cause of Ms. Klausutis' death? Well, that may or may not be the case, but that is not my point. This story, and the complete LACK of national media coverage, exemplifies the conservative media bias: they would never ever go after one of their own. And Joe Scarborough is about as far-right as they come. He tried to oust Newt Gingrich as House Speaker saying Newt was "too liberal".
I have tried my damnedest to avoid the Chandra Levy coverage. The case of the missing intern and the media frenzy it has inspired pretty much exemplifies everything that is wrong with television "news" these days, and cable news in particular. One of those things being the CONSERVATIVE bias and corporate control that pervades all cable news channels. Because the missing woman had an affair with a Democratic congressman, it is 24-7 smear and speculation. Have you ever heard the name Lori Klausutis?? I didn't think so.
Ms. Klausutis was a 27 year old marathon runner who worked in the Florida offices of Republican Representative Joe Scarborough. Mr. Scarborough suddenly resigned from Congress on June 20, 2001, saying he wanted to spend more time with his family. Ms. Klausutis was found dead in his offices on July 21, 2001. When her body was initially found, the medical examiner made a statement that there were no marks on the body and an autopsy would be conducted. It turns out that in reality, the woman had a blow to the head. This medical examiner had once had his license revoked for falsifying information. The doctor admitted that his office had lied in its initial statement so as to avoid a lot of media inquiry. "The last thing we wanted was 40 questions about a head injury," he told the Northwest Florida Daily News. The coroner concluded that Ms. Klausutis had fainted due to an undiagnosed heart valve problem and died when she struck her head on a desk. Those are the FACTS.
Now play a little game: substitute "Gary Condit" for "Joe Scarborough". Think you would have heard of this story by now? Think it might be on your CNN/MSNBC/FauxNews right now? I'd put major money on it. So what's my point, that there is a conspiracy to cover up the real cause of Ms. Klausutis' death? Well, that may or may not be the case, but that is not my point. This story, and the complete LACK of national media coverage, exemplifies the conservative media bias: they would never ever go after one of their own. And Joe Scarborough is about as far-right as they come. He tried to oust Newt Gingrich as House Speaker saying Newt was "too liberal".
>Conservative MSNBC news host Joe Scarborough was a guest on MSNBC's Imus
>show last Thursday, May 29.
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>In complementing Scarborough on his sense of humor, Imus said, "Don't be
>afraid to be funny, because you are funny. I asked you why you aren't
>in Congress. You said that you had sex with the intern and then you had
>to kill her." To which Scarborough laughed, "Yeah, ha, ha ha., well,
>what are you gonna do?"
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>To hear the interview go to http://www.wfan.com/imusinstantreplay/
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>show last Thursday, May 29.
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>In complementing Scarborough on his sense of humor, Imus said, "Don't be
>afraid to be funny, because you are funny. I asked you why you aren't
>in Congress. You said that you had sex with the intern and then you had
>to kill her." To which Scarborough laughed, "Yeah, ha, ha ha., well,
>what are you gonna do?"
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>To hear the interview go to http://www.wfan.com/imusinstantreplay/
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Sorry, I often confuse fox employees with msnbc employees. Maybe I should have said 'neoconservative' rather than fox. Sorry. BTW....how is it that I actually used to like Dennis Miller and now I want to toss everytime he opens his condesending little mouth? My how things change sometimes. hmmm
Auspcice Why is it you and Eddie and other liberals are only ones that referr to Clinton BJ.If that is your thing please include the rest of the women he paid off for immoral conduct also. Have you missed the countless pages of corruption on him. You don't get impeached-disbarred and convicted of perjury for a BJ You missed post on Article in Parade Mag on O'reilly matter--you might want to read it,your boy Al fraken doesn't come out too well on his allegations.
You need to get in the main stream and view the #1 watched prime time news Fox--and # 1 viewed news commentary Oreilly like the rest of America.
---and by the way a point of interest that I can not seem to find in headlines of U.S liberal publications but did find @ Aljezzeera is they appear to have got those responsible for Cole bombing.However I expect to get some coverage from the liberal side on their rights to have lawyers. Can I get an opinion from the liberal side here. Question Who do you think wants Bush out more the liberals or terrorist?????
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/F39252FA-C82D-4B7B-93B2-4446937E03F1.htm
You need to get in the main stream and view the #1 watched prime time news Fox--and # 1 viewed news commentary Oreilly like the rest of America.
---and by the way a point of interest that I can not seem to find in headlines of U.S liberal publications but did find @ Aljezzeera is they appear to have got those responsible for Cole bombing.However I expect to get some coverage from the liberal side on their rights to have lawyers. Can I get an opinion from the liberal side here. Question Who do you think wants Bush out more the liberals or terrorist?????
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/F39252FA-C82D-4B7B-93B2-4446937E03F1.htm
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Initially, Auspice and I are not liberals. We are moderate thinking rationale people who love this country are realize that your Leave it to Beaver wannabe world ended with the Eisenhower administration.
Secondly, I almost choked on my coffee as to how you spun the Clinton thing. For years I have been posting in response to you and your fanatical right wing bretheren to give up the Clinton thing. I recall posting "he's out of office" many times yet you continue to bash Clinton.
I will give you credit Dogs. Of any regular or quasi regular poster on this board (including Dr. Freeze) you have an uncanny ability to spin the truth, out and out lie, take your insane positions and attribute them to those that think differently than you, and otherwise mislead those that surf these forums. You definitely fit in with the current administration. You are Bowling Greens answer to Bush and the wmd.
On Clinton, that's a 50 + million dollar tax payer funded impeachment buddy boy. Your boy, Ken Starr, of course not on witch hunt, spent my money wisely. Clintons problems, impeachment, disbarment and conviction all and I repeat all arose out of personal sexual indiscretions brought out by your buddy Ken Starr (he's a good lawyer though isn't he cause he has a similar psychotic belief system as you).
Finally, in response to your question, you only gave us one choice as to who wants Bush out more. Obviously, the liberals you know, those intellectuals that Bush doesn't trust. The terrorists are totally in Bush's camp. I wouldn't be surprised if Al Quida and AlJezira are major contributors to the Bush reelection campaign.
Hell, as often as you post links to AlJeezera, what would they do without you. I'm sure your pushing that media companys stock through the roof. War is good for your pocket aint it scumbag premium collector.
Eddie
Secondly, I almost choked on my coffee as to how you spun the Clinton thing. For years I have been posting in response to you and your fanatical right wing bretheren to give up the Clinton thing. I recall posting "he's out of office" many times yet you continue to bash Clinton.
I will give you credit Dogs. Of any regular or quasi regular poster on this board (including Dr. Freeze) you have an uncanny ability to spin the truth, out and out lie, take your insane positions and attribute them to those that think differently than you, and otherwise mislead those that surf these forums. You definitely fit in with the current administration. You are Bowling Greens answer to Bush and the wmd.
On Clinton, that's a 50 + million dollar tax payer funded impeachment buddy boy. Your boy, Ken Starr, of course not on witch hunt, spent my money wisely. Clintons problems, impeachment, disbarment and conviction all and I repeat all arose out of personal sexual indiscretions brought out by your buddy Ken Starr (he's a good lawyer though isn't he cause he has a similar psychotic belief system as you).
Finally, in response to your question, you only gave us one choice as to who wants Bush out more. Obviously, the liberals you know, those intellectuals that Bush doesn't trust. The terrorists are totally in Bush's camp. I wouldn't be surprised if Al Quida and AlJezira are major contributors to the Bush reelection campaign.
Hell, as often as you post links to AlJeezera, what would they do without you. I'm sure your pushing that media companys stock through the roof. War is good for your pocket aint it scumbag premium collector.
Eddie
DOGS THAT BARK said:Question Who do you think wants Bush out more the liberals or terrorist?????
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/F39252FA-C82D-4B7B-93B2-4446937E03F1.htm
I think the liberals want him out more. I think the terrorists would love him to stay. Ask yourself if Al Qaeda is more powerful on July 8, 2004 than they were on January 20, 2000 or on September 12, 2001. They have an immoral nation invading an arab state that never provoked them. It's hard to develop a scenario that Bin Laden would have prefered our country to take then the one that we have. They don't even have to pay for marketing anymore.
Dogs is obsessed with Clinton lying about a BJ, yet apparently doesn't mind that an entire war was predicated on lies. I guess it just depends on who's doin' the lying.
Bobby, exactly right. Osama couldn't have planned post 9/11 any better. Al-Queda surely knows that if Bush is re-elected then they get 4 more years of us focused on Iraq. I would imagine that they would prefer that.
These questions that Dogs likes to ask, such as 'who do you think terrorists want to be elected' imply that Bush has been so tough on terrorism, when in fact he's only been tough on Saddam and the Iraqi population.
I think the Arab world in general certainly doesn't want 4 more years of Bush, but terrorist organizations are probably praying for it.
Bobby, exactly right. Osama couldn't have planned post 9/11 any better. Al-Queda surely knows that if Bush is re-elected then they get 4 more years of us focused on Iraq. I would imagine that they would prefer that.
These questions that Dogs likes to ask, such as 'who do you think terrorists want to be elected' imply that Bush has been so tough on terrorism, when in fact he's only been tough on Saddam and the Iraqi population.
I think the Arab world in general certainly doesn't want 4 more years of Bush, but terrorist organizations are probably praying for it.
As an addendum to what you said Kosar, not only would Adolph Bush maintain the focus on Iraq for the next four years but, he has that uncanny ability to polarize people in both this country as well as abroad. In all my years as a moderate, I have never been so riled up at a politician as I am against Bush. His stupidity makes may skin crawl.
Back to the point, with Bush and his crimes as the poster boy for America in the Arab world, the terrorists can easily swing my Muslim alter egos (Arab moderates and centrists) to there viewpoint much like the Christian terrorists at this forum (Dogs, Freeze, Ctown, Pro et al) try to swing moderates and centrists to their respective viewpoints.
Clearly, the terrorists want Bush. They want to keep people polarized as well as swing moderate Arabs closer to their way of thinking about the west.
Eddie
Back to the point, with Bush and his crimes as the poster boy for America in the Arab world, the terrorists can easily swing my Muslim alter egos (Arab moderates and centrists) to there viewpoint much like the Christian terrorists at this forum (Dogs, Freeze, Ctown, Pro et al) try to swing moderates and centrists to their respective viewpoints.
Clearly, the terrorists want Bush. They want to keep people polarized as well as swing moderate Arabs closer to their way of thinking about the west.
Eddie
Very true, Haskell. And as Bobby Chips said, Osama could basically shut down his marketing department after we invaded Iraq. Best thing that ever happened to the terroists.
As centrists, all we can do is continue telling it like it is and let the spin doctors spin away. Luckily, much of the country is awakening to the evil reality of this admin. Democrats, Republicans and independents like ourselves are slowly but surely seeing the light.
Bush(or any incumbent) should be a shoo-in against this Democratic ticket. It shouldn't even be close. Only an admin this dishonest, this corrupt and this inept could make this a close race.
I mean, wtf, Kerry is running on an 'im not Bush' platform and basically saying nothing else about anything and this is still gonna be a dead heat.
As centrists, all we can do is continue telling it like it is and let the spin doctors spin away. Luckily, much of the country is awakening to the evil reality of this admin. Democrats, Republicans and independents like ourselves are slowly but surely seeing the light.
Bush(or any incumbent) should be a shoo-in against this Democratic ticket. It shouldn't even be close. Only an admin this dishonest, this corrupt and this inept could make this a close race.
I mean, wtf, Kerry is running on an 'im not Bush' platform and basically saying nothing else about anything and this is still gonna be a dead heat.
Bush claims he is fighting terrorism in Iraq by somehow luring the terrorists from other arab countries to fight us there. He has gotten a lot of mileage out of that one. But of the 5600 prisoners interviewed in Iraq only 90 of them where not Iraqi's. So he is even lying about that.
And how about his defense of Cheney vs Edawards when he said Cheney could be President. I think that in itself is enough to throw his neocon A$$ out of Washington.
And how about his defense of Cheney vs Edawards when he said Cheney could be President. I think that in itself is enough to throw his neocon A$$ out of Washington.
Dogs
"Question Who do you think wants Bush out more the liberals or terrorist?????"
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BobbyBlueChip gave the perfect answer to your question so anything else on this question would just be a repeat. But.....you're asking the wrong question. In your mind, every issue that now exists in the world is now liberal vs conservative or liberal vs terrorist or liberal vs santa claus. It's from the fox programming strategy. First they train you like one of Pavlov's dogs to salavate when food is given to them after a bell is rung. After you learn, the bell alone will emit the desired salivation response. Fox has conditioned all it's viewers to salivate everytime the word 'liberal' is spoken. They immediately get a woody and maintain it throughout the show. (Just be careful and seek medical attetion for any erection lasting longer than 4 hours. I heard that on a tv viagra ad)
The problem with this skewed view of the world is that the concept of right vs wrong isn't even considered as you're busy with your woody on the first mention of the word 'liberal'. The big issue now facing America in this upcoming election will be the question about Iraq and it isn't 'liberal' vs 'conservative'. It's more like: do you want the USA to continue to be an imperialist country and enforce our military might on any country that opposes us? It's a question of military ideals that both liberals and conservatives are battling with. It's not liberal vs conservative as Fox would have you believe so they can get your desired response from hours of conditioned training. Many conservatives from both parties do not want the USA to continue in this path as the moral and ethical considerations are just as worrysome as the political ramifications. Fox is in bed with the Imperialists view and as such all their commentary reflect as such.
BTW....the Starr investigation cost 76M and had 200 FBI employees consumed with the process. Seems our FBI should have spent theirr time and our money a little differently. Clinton was only found guilty of the bj incident. Why wasn't 76M and 200 FBI employees used in the various atrocities commited by the Republican presidents that preseded Clinton? Again, no sense of proportion or fair play.
"Question Who do you think wants Bush out more the liberals or terrorist?????"
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BobbyBlueChip gave the perfect answer to your question so anything else on this question would just be a repeat. But.....you're asking the wrong question. In your mind, every issue that now exists in the world is now liberal vs conservative or liberal vs terrorist or liberal vs santa claus. It's from the fox programming strategy. First they train you like one of Pavlov's dogs to salavate when food is given to them after a bell is rung. After you learn, the bell alone will emit the desired salivation response. Fox has conditioned all it's viewers to salivate everytime the word 'liberal' is spoken. They immediately get a woody and maintain it throughout the show. (Just be careful and seek medical attetion for any erection lasting longer than 4 hours. I heard that on a tv viagra ad)
The problem with this skewed view of the world is that the concept of right vs wrong isn't even considered as you're busy with your woody on the first mention of the word 'liberal'. The big issue now facing America in this upcoming election will be the question about Iraq and it isn't 'liberal' vs 'conservative'. It's more like: do you want the USA to continue to be an imperialist country and enforce our military might on any country that opposes us? It's a question of military ideals that both liberals and conservatives are battling with. It's not liberal vs conservative as Fox would have you believe so they can get your desired response from hours of conditioned training. Many conservatives from both parties do not want the USA to continue in this path as the moral and ethical considerations are just as worrysome as the political ramifications. Fox is in bed with the Imperialists view and as such all their commentary reflect as such.
BTW....the Starr investigation cost 76M and had 200 FBI employees consumed with the process. Seems our FBI should have spent theirr time and our money a little differently. Clinton was only found guilty of the bj incident. Why wasn't 76M and 200 FBI employees used in the various atrocities commited by the Republican presidents that preseded Clinton? Again, no sense of proportion or fair play.
Stevie:
Great point. Last night when I heard Bush's comment about Cheney v. Edwards, I started laughing. To recap, Bush said the difference between Cheney and Edwards was that Cheney could be president. After thinking for a moment, I caught my self talking to the tv saying, "he is".
Auspice, nice write up. Sorry I shortchanged the American taxpayers by some 20 million on the Whitewater investigation. You know, in the conservative lexicon, synonyms for the word "liberal" are more taxes, gay rights, devil, satan, abortion, anti-war, skinny wimps, weakness, intellectuals, unions, trial lawyers, ponytails, blacks, latinos, jews, womens rights, lesbos, madjacks girls softball team, soft on terror, and worst of all, change.
Well, if I was a liberal, and our right wing friends define the same as "change", I would gladly wear that badge as it applies to the current administrations foreign policy.
Eddie
Great point. Last night when I heard Bush's comment about Cheney v. Edwards, I started laughing. To recap, Bush said the difference between Cheney and Edwards was that Cheney could be president. After thinking for a moment, I caught my self talking to the tv saying, "he is".
Auspice, nice write up. Sorry I shortchanged the American taxpayers by some 20 million on the Whitewater investigation. You know, in the conservative lexicon, synonyms for the word "liberal" are more taxes, gay rights, devil, satan, abortion, anti-war, skinny wimps, weakness, intellectuals, unions, trial lawyers, ponytails, blacks, latinos, jews, womens rights, lesbos, madjacks girls softball team, soft on terror, and worst of all, change.
Well, if I was a liberal, and our right wing friends define the same as "change", I would gladly wear that badge as it applies to the current administrations foreign policy.
Eddie
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StevieD
Hadn't seen you post in a couple days and got worried. I thought something might of happened and as such and contacted several governmental agencies in the Boston area to look for you. I gave them a discription of what we thought you looked like and had hoped for the best. No luck, although they did turn up one guy matching your description. Ruh Paul (the giant black transgendered actor/actress) was vacationing in Boston. Anyways, glad to see ya back posting.
Hadn't seen you post in a couple days and got worried. I thought something might of happened and as such and contacted several governmental agencies in the Boston area to look for you. I gave them a discription of what we thought you looked like and had hoped for the best. No luck, although they did turn up one guy matching your description. Ruh Paul (the giant black transgendered actor/actress) was vacationing in Boston. Anyways, glad to see ya back posting.
Auspice:
I wasn't worried. You can see StevieD wearing sunglasses leaning against the rail in the dugout in the thread entitled "Who is he?"
Eddie
I wasn't worried. You can see StevieD wearing sunglasses leaning against the rail in the dugout in the thread entitled "Who is he?"
Eddie
Eddie
"You know, in the conservative lexicon, synonyms for the word "liberal" are more taxes, gay rights, devil, satan, abortion, anti-war, skinny wimps, weakness, intellectuals, unions, trial lawyers, ponytails, blacks, latinos, jews, womens rights, lesbos, madjacks girls softball team, soft on terror, and worst of all, change."
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Great points. It's exactly how part of the 'conditioning' process takes place on Faux News.
"You know, in the conservative lexicon, synonyms for the word "liberal" are more taxes, gay rights, devil, satan, abortion, anti-war, skinny wimps, weakness, intellectuals, unions, trial lawyers, ponytails, blacks, latinos, jews, womens rights, lesbos, madjacks girls softball team, soft on terror, and worst of all, change."
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Great points. It's exactly how part of the 'conditioning' process takes place on Faux News.
Turfgrass
"What would "liberal" mean in the Liberal lexicon?"
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Beats me as there are no liberal TV stations that distinguish as such. Kosar's post re Joe Scarborough was right on the money re the 'liberal media bias' in this country. There simply aren't any liberal media outlets available anywhere for me to be able to sample their relative interpetation of what 'liberal' might mean.
But one thing I am certain is the continued 'dumbing down' of the political problems in the USA into 'liberal' vs 'conservative' for the masses. It's sophmoric and agenda driven with no useful insight into anything.
"What would "liberal" mean in the Liberal lexicon?"
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Beats me as there are no liberal TV stations that distinguish as such. Kosar's post re Joe Scarborough was right on the money re the 'liberal media bias' in this country. There simply aren't any liberal media outlets available anywhere for me to be able to sample their relative interpetation of what 'liberal' might mean.
But one thing I am certain is the continued 'dumbing down' of the political problems in the USA into 'liberal' vs 'conservative' for the masses. It's sophmoric and agenda driven with no useful insight into anything.
Yeah Clinton got a BJ and was tarred and feathered and he may have done many more things that were questionable but why has Cheney not been removed from office? Cheney is by far the most corrupt man in my lifetime to serve in the capicity of VP, no matter if your liberal or conservative you have to admit this guy is shady! How many times has he tried to defend himself or his actions on the topic of Halliburton and how he is still linked to the company? Does anyone really think that it's fair for a company that Cheney still receives benefits from to get a non-bid contract, thats unamerican! It's time peeps forget about Clinton and Monica and if your going to bring up Clinton's affair then dont forget how many of the Republicans that were trying to lynch him were outed by Larry Flynt for doing the same thing, if my memory is correct their were 6 of them! While I am on a rant, I am sick and tired of hearing Cheney or Bush stating anything about anothers committment to the US Milatary when neither one has any milatary experience, Bush cannot account for his whereabouts and by Cheney's own admission he took 7 deferrments because he had better things to do, does that sound like two guys with a history of milatary experience or two guys that have played the board games Risk and Axis and Allies and garnered their milatary experience winning the board games??
