in today`s society,"rosie the riveter" has been replaced by michael moore and alan derschowitz.......
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Congratulations to the soldiers...
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FUZZY NUTZ said:
been there
done that
She's a registered nurse making $40-$50 an hour, is financially set and owns her home, creates her schedule around my business, makes awesome meals of my choosing from scratch in practically nothing while I watch, she's not able to do what I do for a living and I would never be able to do what she does, we are in many ways complete opposites, completely left wing and liberally oriented and was an activists at one time, has no problems with my vices (conservative LOL/gambling/drinking/lack of anger mgmnt), honest to a fault, she's not some prissy bitch and will do what she says and throw down when needed (that gets me excited), loves to go out and hit a few establishments or go the family route, already has kids of her own and just wants me for my body, is unbelievably impulsive and is capable of doing anything at anytime anywhere, and also has a fantastic rack, dynamite legs, and sex is vital and mandatory.
Never found a "white women" with the combined traits above. Little hot salsa goes a long way Tiny Pee Pee.
Glad to hear you found someone special. Remember that true love takes sacrifice and a willingness to accept faults, too.
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CORRECTION
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I WAS JUST BUSTING BALLS FELLAS.
FUZZY LOVES ALL THE LADIES. MY FAVORITES ARE ITALIAN AND PUERTO RICAN WOMEN. I LOVE ASIAN GIRLS WITH BIG FAKE BOOBIES TOO!! :hail
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I WAS JUST BUSTING BALLS FELLAS.
FUZZY LOVES ALL THE LADIES. MY FAVORITES ARE ITALIAN AND PUERTO RICAN WOMEN. I LOVE ASIAN GIRLS WITH BIG FAKE BOOBIES TOO!! :hail
Nick Douglas said:
I said she was libe
liber
liiii
I can't even say it.
LIBERAL. :scared
See how accepting I am.
FUZZY NUTZ said:
http://www.musthavetoys.com/advent/
Nice of you to explain IO, although you didn't have to after all. Fuzzy your gimmick is getting old. Personally, I like KOD& Beantown better. This will only excite you being the Troll you are, but Flame On.
Nick- see what you got upset about...
It has nothing to do with how hard we work. We were not prepared for the war in Iraq because of poor planning by the Bush White House. Not hard to see. But you guys want to blame the media because the wrong guy told the question, and Hollywood because they are a bunch of liberals. It is the neocons who are in charge and it is the neocons who went into this war unprepared. They were told this would become a quagmire and they didn't care. Two years after invading Rummy still can't get an armor plate on a humvee. Yeah, that must be Bruce Springsteens fault for breaking up the band in 1992! Keep drinking the Kool-Aid.
DTB the pentagon gives the numbers to the A P not the other way around. And today both U P and A P gave out number of N G now making up force in Iraq is 35%to 40%.
We see by the unrest starting so early with some of the troops it's not a good sign of leadership. Nam didn't get out of hand for over 4 years. However the number now wondering what is going on and are not happy with progress in Iraq is growing earlier then it did for nam. The public polled between Dec 6th and 9th shows 48% to 52 % not happy. So I can understand the service guys speaking up sooner then with Nam. If the eguipment is found lacking they should say so. What will be interesting after this election if done fair. if we don't like those elected and are asked to leave. Will we? Or do we find more excuses for staying. By the way all Fox has to do to keep folks informed. Is give out same numbers everyone else has from Pentagon.
We see by the unrest starting so early with some of the troops it's not a good sign of leadership. Nam didn't get out of hand for over 4 years. However the number now wondering what is going on and are not happy with progress in Iraq is growing earlier then it did for nam. The public polled between Dec 6th and 9th shows 48% to 52 % not happy. So I can understand the service guys speaking up sooner then with Nam. If the eguipment is found lacking they should say so. What will be interesting after this election if done fair. if we don't like those elected and are asked to leave. Will we? Or do we find more excuses for staying. By the way all Fox has to do to keep folks informed. Is give out same numbers everyone else has from Pentagon.
I wouldn't be happy driving a beat up, unarmored humvee through Iraq while the governor of California gets to drives a tricked out unpenetrable one through suburban Sacramento.
Lets start the ":war effort" with a forced donation of all civilan Humvees to the ME. ...Not those crappy H2's though - just the real deal ones. I don't know if the limos would qualify, but I'd love to see them off the roads anyway.
Lets start the ":war effort" with a forced donation of all civilan Humvees to the ME. ...Not those crappy H2's though - just the real deal ones. I don't know if the limos would qualify, but I'd love to see them off the roads anyway.
DJV I did find this quote from Bill Moyers
"Roughly half of the U.S. forces deployed for the Iraq and Afghanistan wars are part-time troops called to active duty from the Army National Guard and Reserve. At least 179 of these soldiers had been killed in Iraq and Afghanistan. This percentage is also expected to rise as reserve and guard units take an increasing share of the overseas service."
--if correct to have 40 to 50% and less than 20% of casualties I must assume most of them are in support roles.
and if you think their atitude is bad here is link Cman posted on their meeting with Rummy--you must have missed it.
http://missick.blogs.com/warblog/2004/12/rumsfeld_grille.html
as I said before those complaining because" your humvee" isn't up to snuff should be put on foot patrol through the cities for a day or two for an attitude adjustment--- and if it disgusts me --I can only imagine what vets of korea who marched and froze--and world war 2 that stormed the beaches must be thinking.
"Roughly half of the U.S. forces deployed for the Iraq and Afghanistan wars are part-time troops called to active duty from the Army National Guard and Reserve. At least 179 of these soldiers had been killed in Iraq and Afghanistan. This percentage is also expected to rise as reserve and guard units take an increasing share of the overseas service."
--if correct to have 40 to 50% and less than 20% of casualties I must assume most of them are in support roles.
and if you think their atitude is bad here is link Cman posted on their meeting with Rummy--you must have missed it.
http://missick.blogs.com/warblog/2004/12/rumsfeld_grille.html
as I said before those complaining because" your humvee" isn't up to snuff should be put on foot patrol through the cities for a day or two for an attitude adjustment--- and if it disgusts me --I can only imagine what vets of korea who marched and froze--and world war 2 that stormed the beaches must be thinking.
Going into the N G so early and for so many tells me they did not plan very well. Over 10 years in Nam they estimated 20000 N G were used total. Something was wrong from the start with this invasion plan. As I said before it will be interesting how long we stay after election. For sure if we get folks elected we don't back.
What then? Our reasons for being there will have been completed. We will have Saddam & his Sons and the election over. Now What excuse do we use. WMD is a over with. Were running out of reasons. We know they had nothing to do with 9/11.
What then? Our reasons for being there will have been completed. We will have Saddam & his Sons and the election over. Now What excuse do we use. WMD is a over with. Were running out of reasons. We know they had nothing to do with 9/11.
"Over 10 years in Nam they estimated 20000 N G were used total. Something was wrong from the start with this invasion plan."
In your wildest imagination do you think the fact that they had a draft back then "may" have had anthything to do with proportions of NG's in Nam and Iraq.
---and wouldn't it be ironic if we reinstated draft but only for muslim population.
and on your 40% and Moyers 50% of troops being NG ???????-----from USA TODAY----
"According to figures furnished by the military branches, the active Army has sent about 250,000 soldiers to Iraq, and 622 have been killed. That works out to one death for every 402 soldiers who have deployed. About 37,000 Army Guard soldiers have been sent to Iraq since the war began and 140 have died there - one fatality for every 264 soldiers who have served, or about a 35% higher death rate.
There are several reasons for the greater death rates among so-called part-time soldiers, who generally drill one weekend a month and two weeks during the summer when there's no war. The Pentagon has called up thousands of part-time troops for tours of a year or more in Iraq. Some of the most dangerous missions, including driving convoys and guarding bases and other facilities, frequently are assigned to Guard and reserve troops. Iraqi insurgents have attacked convoys with roadside bombs and rocket-propelled grenades, and a Tennessee Guardsman publicly complained to Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld last week about the lack of armor on some vehicles.
Active-duty casualties have spiked during major battles such as the attack on Fallujah, largely carried out by Army and Marine troops. But such engagements have rarely been waged since President Bush (news - web sites) declared major combat over in May 2003.
Other branches with troops in harm's way in Iraq - the Army Reserve, the Marine Corps, the Air Force and the Navy - did not supply total numbers of their troops deployed to Iraq since the war began in March 2003, which would have made similar comparisons possible. But fatality numbers show the vast majority of U.S. deaths in Iraq come from the active-duty Army, active-duty Marines, the Army National Guard and the Army Reserve. The Marines have lost 350 troops, while the Army Reserve has suffered 59 deaths. The Air Force and Navy together have suffered 27 deaths.
Those casualties don't represent all 1,286 Iraq deaths because they exclude several categories, including Marine Corps Reserve.
The elevated death rates among part-time soldiers are a significant shift from the past. During most wars in the last century, the full-time military took most of the casualties, and their troops were much more likely to die in battle than Guardsmen and reservists.
In the 1991 Persian Gulf War (news - web sites), for example, the Army Guard suffered no fatalities out of 382 U.S. deaths. A total of 94 Army National Guardsmen and no reservists were killed out of 58,209 U.S. deaths in Vietnam."
In your wildest imagination do you think the fact that they had a draft back then "may" have had anthything to do with proportions of NG's in Nam and Iraq.
---and wouldn't it be ironic if we reinstated draft but only for muslim population.
and on your 40% and Moyers 50% of troops being NG ???????-----from USA TODAY----
"According to figures furnished by the military branches, the active Army has sent about 250,000 soldiers to Iraq, and 622 have been killed. That works out to one death for every 402 soldiers who have deployed. About 37,000 Army Guard soldiers have been sent to Iraq since the war began and 140 have died there - one fatality for every 264 soldiers who have served, or about a 35% higher death rate.
There are several reasons for the greater death rates among so-called part-time soldiers, who generally drill one weekend a month and two weeks during the summer when there's no war. The Pentagon has called up thousands of part-time troops for tours of a year or more in Iraq. Some of the most dangerous missions, including driving convoys and guarding bases and other facilities, frequently are assigned to Guard and reserve troops. Iraqi insurgents have attacked convoys with roadside bombs and rocket-propelled grenades, and a Tennessee Guardsman publicly complained to Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld last week about the lack of armor on some vehicles.
Active-duty casualties have spiked during major battles such as the attack on Fallujah, largely carried out by Army and Marine troops. But such engagements have rarely been waged since President Bush (news - web sites) declared major combat over in May 2003.
Other branches with troops in harm's way in Iraq - the Army Reserve, the Marine Corps, the Air Force and the Navy - did not supply total numbers of their troops deployed to Iraq since the war began in March 2003, which would have made similar comparisons possible. But fatality numbers show the vast majority of U.S. deaths in Iraq come from the active-duty Army, active-duty Marines, the Army National Guard and the Army Reserve. The Marines have lost 350 troops, while the Army Reserve has suffered 59 deaths. The Air Force and Navy together have suffered 27 deaths.
Those casualties don't represent all 1,286 Iraq deaths because they exclude several categories, including Marine Corps Reserve.
The elevated death rates among part-time soldiers are a significant shift from the past. During most wars in the last century, the full-time military took most of the casualties, and their troops were much more likely to die in battle than Guardsmen and reservists.
In the 1991 Persian Gulf War (news - web sites), for example, the Army Guard suffered no fatalities out of 382 U.S. deaths. A total of 94 Army National Guardsmen and no reservists were killed out of 58,209 U.S. deaths in Vietnam."
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Well it looks like USA is saying for the number involved the N G% is high. And of course the high risk in this war seems to be the convoys.
As for a plan they didn't seem to have one. At least not one that places priority on guarding ammo dumbs. They seem to know now most of these explosives are coming from those. We did not have enough men to do it right.
And how long is plan to stay after this election. Remember we went there to help not own Iraq. They tell us to leave are we going to?
As for a plan they didn't seem to have one. At least not one that places priority on guarding ammo dumbs. They seem to know now most of these explosives are coming from those. We did not have enough men to do it right.
And how long is plan to stay after this election. Remember we went there to help not own Iraq. They tell us to leave are we going to?
DOGS THAT BARK said:--and while their wounded totals were a little less than yours they did fail to mention as you that 1/3 of deaths were non combat.
Smurf Reason I chose Chinese wife was because after 50 years of never marrying I understand I am very set in my ways and it would take very special person with lots of understanding tp put up with me and her nature fits the bill pefectly--and as marine remarked a year back--The better reason to marry is not so much that you are head over heels in love with them--but preferable because they love you.
Does it really matter how many deaths are non-combat related? I mean, seriously. They're dead because of the war. Period.
That's similar to your other thoughts a while back where you somehow tried to say that the fact that thousands of women and children are being blown up is much more acceptable since we don't do it on purpose.
BTW-my girlfriend is Korean and a lot of times I really wish she had more of the 'traditional' Asian temperment.
"Does it really matter how many deaths are non-combat related? I mean, seriously. They're dead because of the war. Period."
Yep to me it does Matt.I would much rather die in war--than in a gangland shooting-robbery ect or by aids. In fact I couldn't think of a better way to die if I knew it was my time
Congrats on girlfriend--Koreans are much more accustomed to U.S. traditions than most Asians--They are very into golf for most part--maybe she'll get you out on the course. Have several beginners I help at driving range here and I am always impressed by their cheerful attitude.Hope she takes good care of you--you deserve it.
Yep to me it does Matt.I would much rather die in war--than in a gangland shooting-robbery ect or by aids. In fact I couldn't think of a better way to die if I knew it was my time
Congrats on girlfriend--Koreans are much more accustomed to U.S. traditions than most Asians--They are very into golf for most part--maybe she'll get you out on the course. Have several beginners I help at driving range here and I am always impressed by their cheerful attitude.Hope she takes good care of you--you deserve it.
DTB please so you rather have died in Nam. For what good cause was Nam worth dieing for. Our government used us. And so far what good cause is Iraq worth dieing for. The capture of Saddam. I hope your answer is maybe time will tell if Iraq works out some how. But if it just stays mess as today. And were still there 1/2 maybe 3 years from now. We did what to honor all those boys and girls that died. Im still waitng to find out how many Iraq's were involved with 9/11.
DOGS THAT BARK said:
Wayne,
Honestly. What does a gangland shooting or AIDS have to do with any of this?
My seemingly simple point is that non-combat deaths in a war theater are no different than KIA. Plain and simple. Accidents, friendly fire, suicides etc all count just as much.
Thanks for the thoughts on the girlfriend, I appreciate it. As you know, I was in Korea for 18 months in the Army in 1993-1994. However, this spitfire, who has been in the states most of her life, differs quite a bit from all the women I met over there. For better in most cases, and for worse in a few....lol
