3 seconds No use wasting time talking to these numb nuts on here. a few on here that are real pr--ks and dumb as they come about sports. The USC crap is over anyways! ESPN will jump on someone else next year and all the fake propaganda, bs, etc will be on some other team.(NOTRE Dame more than likely) The fact is real sports fans see right thru the BS and know the real facts. only numb nuts and fools believe the sh-t!! USC had a decent run got beat by a better team and plays in a weak azz conference that most any team from a real conference could go undefeated in every year! Fact!!
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This argument of SC vs Texas is useless...
This argument of SC vs Texas is useless...
the bottom line is that Texas won and there is nothing credible in saying that they did not deserve to win.
AS A USC FAN, this pains me to say.
We have to be adults here and acknowledge that on Jan 4, 2006, no matter what breaks went either way, that Texas became the UNDISPUTED champs of college football.
Congratulations to Texas and lets stop the 8 out of 10's or we should have's.
Texas won and deserves their 6 months in the limelight and acknowlegement as a great undefeated champion.
Lets get past this, it is painful to keep rehashing this and embarrassing as an SC fan to see the repeated attempts to salvage our rep. People that bash SC will continue to do so and that is their prerogative.
Lets not give people anymore ammunition to hate USC, as the media has perpetuated enough animosity.
This argument of SC vs Texas is useless...
the bottom line is that Texas won and there is nothing credible in saying that they did not deserve to win.
AS A USC FAN, this pains me to say.
We have to be adults here and acknowledge that on Jan 4, 2006, no matter what breaks went either way, that Texas became the UNDISPUTED champs of college football.
Congratulations to Texas and lets stop the 8 out of 10's or we should have's.
Texas won and deserves their 6 months in the limelight and acknowlegement as a great undefeated champion.
Lets get past this, it is painful to keep rehashing this and embarrassing as an SC fan to see the repeated attempts to salvage our rep. People that bash SC will continue to do so and that is their prerogative.
Lets not give people anymore ammunition to hate USC, as the media has perpetuated enough animosity.
Thank you for this mature post which is a fine example of good sportsmanship. I have to agree that if I were an SC fan, Scott's shameless attempts to discount the game that Texas played in the Rose Bowl would embarrass me as well.ballsweat said:
Good luck with your team next year, Ballsweat. You guys have a great coach and a squad loaded with talent. The Trojans should do just fine. :Yep:
ballsweat said:
Nothing wrong about rehashing the game as long as you are actually talking about what exactly did happen. If YOU are not interested in talking about the game, that is cool. Just don't tell others NOT too.
DUH! Nobody is disputing Texas winning the National Championship.
Scott4USC said:
& that is exactly what you are INCAPABLABLE of doing due to your USC bias. Everyone but you sees it, even fellow USC fans. Stop embarassing the maroon & gold.
3 Seconds said:
What did I say that wasn't valid? I challenge you to tear my post apart! Some people don't like knowing the facts. All along I have said Texas made mistakes as well as USC. USC just made more and Texas covered up theres! It is CARDINAL and GOLD!
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Scott4USC said:
Excuse me on the Cardinal/Maroon thing.
I have already gone through some of your posts & pointed out your spin & omitting of facts. No need to do it again.
One example yesterday alone, you said UT recovered all their fumbles, yet of course you forgot USC got a GIFT fumble on the 1st punt of the game that led to 7 pts.
Oh wait. USC hits hard & cause fumbles its what they do. Only USC gives away gifts, USC never gets gifts & other teams never earn TO's off USC.
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You are clueless if you are trying to compare Texas returner who fumbled with Bush gift pitch. No need to interact with you on this issue if you think both are the same.
I never said Leinart's INT was a gift because Texas forced it. Just like USC forced the fumble on punt returner. But in the game, Texas fumbled a lot and recovered a lot of their fumbles. Recovering your fumbles is PURE LUCK!
On the VY game winning TD RUN if he suddenly dropped the ball on the ground without anyone forcing him, is that a gift from Texas? Or would that be great defense by USC?
IMO that be a $hitty way to win a NC but I'd take it. Just like Texas took the Bush gift pitch.
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Scott4USC said:You are clueless if you are trying to compare Texas returner who fumbled with Bush gift pitch. No need to interact with you on this issue if you think both are the same.
I never said Leinart's INT was a gift because Texas forced it. Just like USC forced the fumble on punt returner. But in the game, Texas fumbled a lot and recovered a lot of their fumbles. Recovering your fumbles is PURE LUCK!
On the VY game winning TD RUN if he suddenly dropped the ball on the ground without anyone forcing him, is that a gift from Texas? Or would that be great defense by USC?
IMO that be a $hitty way to win a NC but I'd take it. Just like Texas took the Bush gift pitch.
My god you are going to try & spin this too.....
Where did I ever comapare the UT punt fumble to the Bush bonehead I am dope fumble? You wont be able to find it.
I was speaking of turnovers in general & how you always seem to spin them as USC D creates turnovers, while USC gives gifts away. It is a joke.
Again this is an attempt to deflect away from the fact that analysis is flawed. You pretend UT recovered all their fumbles & that was just one example from yesterday.
You dont want to interact w/ me because you know, I know & anyone who reads these threads knows that your BS & USC spin crap is up, I will expose that flawed crap @ every turn.
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Scott4USC
Scott4USC
You are correct that you have every right to argue about the the RB or that USC was a very good/great team. The only issue is not with your interpretation, and that it was it is, but that you are not leaving this game behind.
Is it not painful to rehash the game? Is it not painful to play the what if game?
All I want you to realize is that for every point you post, someone here will post a counter post. It is like a hamster wheel and you are the hamster. YOU WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO GET OFF THE WHEEL!
I love USC, have very strong SC family ties and have had season tickets even though I live in GA, but I will not compromise any of my passion or integrity by falling into arguments with people who ultimately have one overwhelminly compelling fact, THE SCOREBOARD at the RB.
We will never win an war, sure maybe a few small battles here and there, but never this war.
You seem to be very bright and passionate. Now be brighter than all of us and let this one die.
I don't want to come on this board in 20 years and still be discussing the RB. SC was great, Texas was greater that day, and history was made that will never be changed.
You control the future.
Scott4USC
You are correct that you have every right to argue about the the RB or that USC was a very good/great team. The only issue is not with your interpretation, and that it was it is, but that you are not leaving this game behind.
Is it not painful to rehash the game? Is it not painful to play the what if game?
All I want you to realize is that for every point you post, someone here will post a counter post. It is like a hamster wheel and you are the hamster. YOU WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO GET OFF THE WHEEL!
I love USC, have very strong SC family ties and have had season tickets even though I live in GA, but I will not compromise any of my passion or integrity by falling into arguments with people who ultimately have one overwhelminly compelling fact, THE SCOREBOARD at the RB.
We will never win an war, sure maybe a few small battles here and there, but never this war.
You seem to be very bright and passionate. Now be brighter than all of us and let this one die.
I don't want to come on this board in 20 years and still be discussing the RB. SC was great, Texas was greater that day, and history was made that will never be changed.
You control the future.
Ballsweat, I appreciate your concern for Scott, and 3 Seconds I enjoy with you the humor of reading his responses and am hear to let you know your posts are enjoyed by me at least.
But U guys are forgetting who you are talking to. This is Scott4SC u are debating. He is convinced that SC is the greatest team of all time. So every valid point one of you guys makes he is going to respond with the mindset of SC greatest thing ever in college football. A team beats SC and to him it is just sheer luck becuase THERE IS NO WAY YOU CAN OUTSKILL THE GREATEST TEAM OF ALL TIME. That is the way he sees it. Now he is smart enough to throw in comments like Texas played great or USC didnt protect their turnovers so they deserved to lose, but he doesnt truely believe that or the scoreboard would be enough for him to realize SC is not the BEST TEAM EVER and wasnt even the best team that year.
Please guys, you are not going to convince Scott any otherwise cause in his world SC is the greatest thing ever and anyone who says different is MUST be wrong and any EVENT that says different MUST be a fluke.
I mean we are all small Homers for our teams, thats what makes rooting for "your team" so special, for when they win its like we won as well cause we always stood beside them. But Scott, this is a handicapping forum and last I checked Homers are what keep the books in business more than anyone else.
So let Scott believe that SC is the greatest thing ever and just listen to his injury reports on SC and the other team and minor unbiased info like that. Because any opinion Scott has on SC will be so slanted that it is worthless to ANY capper on this site looking to make money against the books.
For Scott, you could be such a major contributor to this site in terms of making all of us money if you would just take off those goggles and look at it from our point of view for a few minutes and read some of your posts. For the amount of time you dedicate to thi site and SC, if you looked at them without your INSANE bias you would know SC inside and out and be able to tell us when to take em and when not to, and we would all (or the ones with any sense) would all listen
GL to all
But U guys are forgetting who you are talking to. This is Scott4SC u are debating. He is convinced that SC is the greatest team of all time. So every valid point one of you guys makes he is going to respond with the mindset of SC greatest thing ever in college football. A team beats SC and to him it is just sheer luck becuase THERE IS NO WAY YOU CAN OUTSKILL THE GREATEST TEAM OF ALL TIME. That is the way he sees it. Now he is smart enough to throw in comments like Texas played great or USC didnt protect their turnovers so they deserved to lose, but he doesnt truely believe that or the scoreboard would be enough for him to realize SC is not the BEST TEAM EVER and wasnt even the best team that year.
Please guys, you are not going to convince Scott any otherwise cause in his world SC is the greatest thing ever and anyone who says different is MUST be wrong and any EVENT that says different MUST be a fluke.
I mean we are all small Homers for our teams, thats what makes rooting for "your team" so special, for when they win its like we won as well cause we always stood beside them. But Scott, this is a handicapping forum and last I checked Homers are what keep the books in business more than anyone else.
So let Scott believe that SC is the greatest thing ever and just listen to his injury reports on SC and the other team and minor unbiased info like that. Because any opinion Scott has on SC will be so slanted that it is worthless to ANY capper on this site looking to make money against the books.
For Scott, you could be such a major contributor to this site in terms of making all of us money if you would just take off those goggles and look at it from our point of view for a few minutes and read some of your posts. For the amount of time you dedicate to thi site and SC, if you looked at them without your INSANE bias you would know SC inside and out and be able to tell us when to take em and when not to, and we would all (or the ones with any sense) would all listen
GL to all
You like posting things Scott Here ya Go from a Pac-10 scout at the senior bowl:
A West Coast scout for one of the NFL's top personnel departments supported this notion in November after he did some cross-checking on the SEC quarterbacks.
"It can't be fun playing quarterback in the SEC," the scout said. "I mean, most of the teams are five and six deep at cornerback -- it's not even close when you compare it to the Pac-10. The speed on defense across the SEC is ridiculous. The defensive coordinators, well, some of them should be coaching in the NFL. Some of them have, in fact. Playing quarterback in the SEC is a task. Playing it well every week is a bigger task."
Some more:
my favorite ESPN rim job of all time took place two years ago with mike williams. i will never forget how every media outlet, ESPN included, said that mike williams would be a better NFL wideout that fitzgerald from Pitt. interesting to see what awesome nfl stats williams has right now compared to fitzgerald.
the nfl is a business.....and college football, well, college football is politics. simple as that.
Here you go U SuCk fan:
Chris Mortensen:
Let's get something straight right off the mark. This is not a knock against Matt Leinart or Vince Young. This also is not a knock against my colleague and friend Mel Kiper Jr., our ESPN draft scout, who does a terrific job.
However, this I'm pretty sure about: Jay Cutler of Vanderbilt is the best quarterback available for the NFL draft come April.
I am not alone. A bunch of NFL scouts are whispering the same thing during Senior Bowl week in Mobile, Ala. Some of those even will put out some "negatives" on Cutler deliberately in hopes that he'll drop a little in the draft. It's not going to work.
Lowly Vandy!! SEC top notch Football rest second best!!
A West Coast scout for one of the NFL's top personnel departments supported this notion in November after he did some cross-checking on the SEC quarterbacks.
"It can't be fun playing quarterback in the SEC," the scout said. "I mean, most of the teams are five and six deep at cornerback -- it's not even close when you compare it to the Pac-10. The speed on defense across the SEC is ridiculous. The defensive coordinators, well, some of them should be coaching in the NFL. Some of them have, in fact. Playing quarterback in the SEC is a task. Playing it well every week is a bigger task."
Some more:
my favorite ESPN rim job of all time took place two years ago with mike williams. i will never forget how every media outlet, ESPN included, said that mike williams would be a better NFL wideout that fitzgerald from Pitt. interesting to see what awesome nfl stats williams has right now compared to fitzgerald.
the nfl is a business.....and college football, well, college football is politics. simple as that.
Here you go U SuCk fan:
Chris Mortensen:
Let's get something straight right off the mark. This is not a knock against Matt Leinart or Vince Young. This also is not a knock against my colleague and friend Mel Kiper Jr., our ESPN draft scout, who does a terrific job.
However, this I'm pretty sure about: Jay Cutler of Vanderbilt is the best quarterback available for the NFL draft come April.
I am not alone. A bunch of NFL scouts are whispering the same thing during Senior Bowl week in Mobile, Ala. Some of those even will put out some "negatives" on Cutler deliberately in hopes that he'll drop a little in the draft. It's not going to work.
Lowly Vandy!! SEC top notch Football rest second best!!
dlvlsu said:
Finally a quality post from you! :clap:
Funny you post this. I think it was last night on sports radio they were talking about the Senior Bowl practices. The guy basically said the QB's SUCK for this game. Penn St. QB sucked and switched to WR. Georgia QB sucked. Croyle looks average and NFL thinks he is undersized/brittle. He said the best QB is Whitehurst from Clemson and he looked average as well. Oregon RB sucked as well while Memphis RB looked impressive and should be the #2 RB taken. I guess the most impressive player is the OL Fergusen.
I think the SEC is a better defensive conf. than the Pac 10 and the Pac 10 is a better offensive conf. But even that statement is flawed because it is so difficult to compare conferences. Do the SEC defenses look great because they are going against poor offenses? Hard to tell. BOTH CONF. HAVE DIFFERENT PHILOSOPHIES whether it is scheduling or playing style. Pac 10 throws the ball a lot more vs SEC who runs the ball a lot more. SEC offenses are more predictable than Pac 10 offenses. Pac 10 has more NFL caliber QB's than the SEC. What I do know is this........
I do know that Pac 10 offenses have had a lot of success against top rated SEC defenses. I do know the SEC defensive stats are skewed with poor OOC competition and so many home games.
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blgstocks said:
I don't think I ever said USC was the greatest team of all time. I do think PC has built a USC dynasty that will last as long as PC is the USC HC.
Here are some facts for you. I have placed ZERO straight wagers on USC in the last 2 years during the regular season or bowl season.
In the last 4 years, I have won a min. $3000 each year betting on USC whether it was regular season games, bowl games, and/or futures. I profit from USC each and every year the last 4 years. I have only lost 1 USC bet the last 4 years and that was my USC futures bet to win it all in 2005 but I hedged that 2h with Texas taking a minor loss. But I won $6,900 on USC going undefeated so this year was another PROFITABLE year for me betting on USC. 4 straight years of BIG BIG profit on USC for me. This year was also a big profitable year for me on POSTED PLAYS (non USC bets).
It is quite clear I pick and choose my spots with USC and I couldn't be happier with my results. Only rule i have is I never will bet against USC or on a total in a USC game.
ITS not talking about the qb's in the senior bowl numb nuts read it carefully its talking about best qb(CUTLER) in the draft!! Better than your boy!! Bend everything around like you normally do. No problem but everybody and anybody that knows College football knows SEC best Football conference period!!
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the ESPN know-it-alls say one thing . . . (i.e. that USC was better than LSU in 2003)
. . . and then the NFL scouts will silently correct them (as they did in '03 saying that LSU had more NFL talent than USC), but this correction is always unnoticed and unknown to mainstream sports followers.
You can fool some with your bs but as a said means nothing to a real fan or knowledgeable person that knows and studies college football and has an open mind to it all! You and the rest of these ummm people on here continue your crap but there are a few that your not fooling and know your ignorant!
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the ESPN know-it-alls say one thing . . . (i.e. that USC was better than LSU in 2003)
. . . and then the NFL scouts will silently correct them (as they did in '03 saying that LSU had more NFL talent than USC), but this correction is always unnoticed and unknown to mainstream sports followers.
You can fool some with your bs but as a said means nothing to a real fan or knowledgeable person that knows and studies college football and has an open mind to it all! You and the rest of these ummm people on here continue your crap but there are a few that your not fooling and know your ignorant!
Dlvlsu - Do you have an eighth grade education? Who cares what a kicker (Chris Mortenson) thinks about who the top QB is in college. Cutler will NOT go before Young or Lienart. Go get yourself a fresh bottle of moonshine and practice on your rubrics cube.
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Hey Idiot I knew you couldnt understand anything!! Never said he would go before anyone!! Can you read? Pac-10 scout for the NFL said he is the best QB in the draft!! Along with Chris also and more Scouts!! Do you know more than an NFL scout?? I DON'T THINK SO!! Face facts: one track minds are a terrible waste!!
Notre Dame most over rated football team of all time!!
Notre Dame most over rated football team of all time!!
Who cares about the past?? All history What have you done for me lately numb nuts?? Thats what i thought!! Big drought and will last alot longer to!! keep running your mouth, i like it when a yankee lives up to what he is!! Makes my day!!
