does anyone know the official rule on this?

[shamrock]

I knew I lost this immediately when it happened, but never really examined the official ruling, probably only reason I'm interested now is because I have been bitten 6 times this week already on losing run lines but having the winning team, its always a risk, but I don't remember being hit this many times in short order:com:


Minnesota won on a walk off ground Rule double, of a 1-1 tie in the 10th inning, but the bases were loaded, the final was 2-1, but since it was a ground rule double, officially shouldn't it have been 3-1? If not what differentiates a ground rule double from a homer? If it was a homer score would have been 5-1. In this situation, the batter gets cheated of 1rbi, and the runner on second doesn't get the run scored, even though the ball bounced over the fence. Scoring baseball games usually likes everything accounted for,here it clearly isn't, and most importantly I lose my bet:com:

 

[Blackman]

I knew I lost this immediately when it happened, but never really examined the official ruling, probably only reason I'm interested now is because I have been bitten 6 times this week already on losing run lines but having the winning team, its always a risk, but I don't remember being hit this many times in short order:com:


Minnesota won on a walk off ground Rule double, of a 1-1 tie in the 10th inning, but the bases were loaded, the final was 2-1, but since it was a ground rule double, officially shouldn't it have been 3-1? If not what differentiates a ground rule double from a homer? If it was a homer score would have been 5-1. In this situation, the batter gets cheated of 1rbi, and the runner on second doesn't get the run scored, even though the ball bounced over the fence. Scoring baseball games usually likes everything accounted for,here it clearly isn't, and most importantly I lose my bet:com:

I see what you are saying, but that runner from 2nd did not cross the plate. Game ended when the game become 2-1 and they mobbed the batter.

If you remember the Robin Ventura walk off Grand Slam single, it's the same situation. He hit a grand slam but never ran further than first base, and was mobbed. Only the runner from 3rd actually crossed the plate, was the only guy to score.

 

[BleedDodgerBlue]

Rule 4.11 of the baseball rules


(c) If the home team scores the winning run in its half of the ninth inning (or its half of an extra inning after a tie), the game ends immediately when the winning run is scored. EXCEPTION: If the last batter in a game hits a home run out of the playing field, the batter-runner and all runners on base are permitted to score, in accordance with the base-running rules, and the game ends when the batter-runner touches home plate.
APPROVED RULING: The batter hits a home run out of the playing field to win the game in the last half of the ninth or an extra inning, but is called out for passing a preceding runner. The game ends immediately when the winning run is scored.



the only exception is for a home run. Doesn't mention ground rule double. Somehow the founding fathers didn't factor runlines into the mix. Or maybe they played a lot of +1.5's

gl

 

[gman2]

Somehow the founding fathers didn't factor runlines into the mix. Or maybe they played a lot of +1.5's

one of the great madjacks one-liners (or two-liners) of all time.

 

[gman2]

in all seriousness, i think you can make a good argument both ways.

the extra run isnt needed, but on a ground-rule double, it is a 'formality' - it doesnt take into acct if the runners are fast/slow or if runs are needed/not needed.

 

[shamrock]

dodger, that was funny, and I'm pulling for your club, Lowe seems to be throwing the ball well like he usually does season end.

G man, that's what I'm saying, even trying to look at it objectively, it could have been ruled 3-1. I wonder if the batter is even credited with a double or single?