What happen here? I thought the Dems stop the drilling

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U.S. House Drops Gulf Drilling Plan

Ledger Staff & Wire Reports

Published: Thursday, November 10, 2005 at 6:01 a.m.


* Senate Blocks Oil Drilling Proposal

LAKELAND -- A proposal to allow oil and gas drilling within 125 miles of the Florida Gulf Coast died in the U.S. House late Wednesday night, a victim of the budget-cutting battle raging there.

Republican House leaders abandoned an attempt to push through a hotly contested plan to open an Alaskan wildlife refuge to oil drilling.

They feared that the controversy over drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge would jeopardize today's approval of a sweeping $54 billion budget-cutting bill.

GOP leaders, led by House Speaker Dennis Hastert, R-Ill., also agreed to drop a plan to open a contested tract off the Florida Gulf Coast to oil drilling and allow states to waive a 24-year ban on drilling along the Atlantic and Pacific coasts. Several Florida Republicans opposed the plan.

Supporters of drilling in the eastern Gulf had only a 14-vote margin, and any change in the provision would have unraveled that majority, a congressional staff member said earlier Wednesday. "If ANWR goes (is removed), at least four members of the Florida delegation (including Rep. Ginny Brown-Waite), who support the current provision, will leave and others in other states could likely follow," the staffer said.

Twenty-five Republicans, led by Rep. Charles Bass of New Hampshire, signed a letter asking GOP leaders to strike the Alaskan drilling provision from the broader $54 billion budget cut bill.

"Rather then reversing decades of protection for this publicly held land, focusing greater attention on renewable energy sources, alternate fuels, and more efficient systems and appliances would yield more net energy savings than could come from ANWR and would have a higher benefit on the nation's long-term economic leadership and security," they said.

The moderates knew they had leverage, given the narrow margin of GOP control of the House. It only takes 14 Republican defections to scuttle a bill, assuming every Democrat opposes it.

The actions were a stunning setback for those who have tried for years to open a coastal strip of ANWR to oil development, and a victory for environmentalists who have lobbied hard against the drilling provisions.

President Bush has made drilling in the Alaska refuge one of his top energy priorities.

The House Rules Committee formalized the death of the ANWR provision late Wednesday when it issued the terms of the debate when the House takes up the budget package today.

Last week, the Senate included ANWR drilling in its version of the budget, so the matter will have to be thrashed out in negotiations between the Senate and House, if the budget is approved by the House.

Removing the Arctic oil drilling provision could incite a backlash from lawmakers who strongly favor it, which is a big majority of Republicans. House and Senate GOP leaders are likely to push hard to get the ANWR proposal back into the bill in negotiations on a final document.

Marnie Funk, a spokeswoman for Sen. Pete Domenici, R-N.M., said that Domenici considers the ANWR provision, which the Senate approved, "one of the most critical components" in the budget package.

"He is committed to coming back to the Senate from the conference with ANWR intact," she said.

The Gulf provision had split Florida's congressional delegation, including Polk-area members of Congress.

While Rep. Adam Putnam supported the provision, BrownWaite said she would support expanded Gulf drilling only if ANWAR stayed in. And Rep. Katherine Harris has opposed any expansion at all.

The moratorium on drilling in the eastern Gulf keeps oil companies 250 to 300 miles off the state's Gulf coast.

But the new provision would have allowed drilling closer to Florida's shores. With state legislative support, it could have reached as close as 125 miles.

Putnam, a Bartow Republican, voted for the new drilling rules in the House Budget Committee last week. It was included in a budget measure known as the Deficit Reduction Bill.

Putnam has said the stability of Gulf drilling rigs during hurricanes Katrina and Rita this year and the world oil shortage had created a more favorable outlook for oil exploration.

Fellow Republican BrownWaite, recovering at her Crystal River home from surgery to reset broken toes, said Tuesday that "I would prefer to leave it the way it is, but I don't believe the way the world is today that it can be done."

"But I can't support it if ANWR is taken out and the Gulf left in," she said.

Harris, a Republican whose district includes coastal Sarasota County and who grew up in Bartow, had been working Wednesday to remove the drilling provisions from the budget.

In the Senate, both of Florida's senators, Republican Mel Martinez and Democrat Bill Nelson, oppose the Gulf drilling issue.

Nelson is attempting to get the eastern Gulf declared a military training zone because of the high activity of ships and aircraft in the area daily.

Called a Mission Management Line, the designation would keep oil companies from drilling east of the line and basically restrict drilling to 220 to 250 miles off the coast.

But there has been no action on his request from the military or the Senate Armed Services Committee.

Ledger Political Editor Bill Rufty contributed to this article. He can be reached at bill.rufty@theledger.com or 863802-7523. Material from The Associated Press and Washington Post was used in this article.
 

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hey,obama supporter......do you know how to read dates?


/god help us...


I will give you a clue GW, that is when both branches were controlled by the GOP near the end of their 6 yr run. They passed no legislation to initiate any new drilling. Now the right wing talkng heads tell you its the dems who are at fault and you parrot it back on boards like this. It's comical. Have you found out what the best estimates on how much oil is in ANWR and how long that amount would sustain US consumption yet?

Just wondering if you had bothered to do any research yet GW. This yet another empty talking point being spouted by Lush, Hannity, and the rest of the blowhards.
 
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I will give you a clue GW, that is when both branches were controlled by the GOP near the end of their 6 yr run. They passed no legislation to initiate any new drilling. Now the right wing talkng heads tell you its the dems who are at fault and you parrot it back on boards like this. It's comical. Have you found out what the best estimates on how much oil is in ANWR and how long that amount would sustain US consumption yet?

:yup Why i high lighted the date but i guess it went over his head.
 

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Interesting...GW is one of the first to criticize dems blocking conservatives efforts to drill - historically, and often, and this story highlights who was against this - specifically, and he worries about the date not being (I guess) from the present?
:shrug:

Thanks for a gentle reminder that blanket statements like we see here rarely are accurate, and cover all situations. I would wager that some of the players here that voted against drilling have used that same argument in political situations to paint dems as the blockers.
 

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And this, from the present:

GOP claim about Chinese oil drilling off Cuba is untrue

By Erika Bolstad and Kevin G. Hall | McClatchy Newspapers

WASHINGTON ? As Congress has debated energy policy over the past several days, an unusual argument keeps surfacing in support of drilling off the U.S. coastline and in Alaska's Arctic National Wildlife Refuge.

Why, ask some Republicans, should the United States be thwarted from drilling in its own territory when just 50 miles off the Florida coastline the Chinese government is drilling for oil under Cuban leases?

Yet no one can prove that the Chinese are drilling anywhere off Cuba's shoreline. The China-Cuba connection is "akin to urban legend," said Sen. Mel Martinez, a Republican from Florida who opposes drilling off the coast of his state but who backs exploration in ANWR.

"China is not drilling in Cuba's Gulf of Mexico waters, period," said Jorge Pinon, an energy fellow with the Center for Hemispheric Policy at the University of Miami and an expert in oil exploration in the Gulf of Mexico. Martinez cited Pinon's research when he took to the Senate floor Wednesday to set the record straight.

Even so, the Chinese-drilling-in-Cuba legend has gained momentum and has been swept up in Republican arguments to open up more U.S. territory to domestic production.

Vice President Dick Cheney, in a speech Wednesday to the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, picked up the refrain. Cheney quoted a column by George Will, who wrote last week that "drilling is under way 60 miles off Florida. The drilling is being done by China, in cooperation with Cuba, which is drilling closer to South Florida than U.S. companies are."

In his speech, Cheney described the Chinese as being "in cooperation with the Cuban government. Even the communists have figured out that a good answer to higher prices means more supply."

"But Congress says no to drilling in ANWR, no to drilling on the East Coast, no to drilling on the West Coast," Cheney added.

The office of House Minority Leader John Boehner defended the GOP drilling claims. "A 2006 New York Times story highlights lease agreements negotiated between Cuba and China and the fact that China was planning to drill in the Florida Strait off the coast of Cuba," said spokesman Michael Steel.

The China-Cuba connection also appeared in an editorial Monday in Investor's Business Daily, which wrote that "the U.S. Congress has voted consistently to keep 85 percent of America's offshore oil and gas off-limits, while China and Cuba drill 60 miles from Key West, Fla."

And on Tuesday, Rep. George Radanovich, R-Calif., wrote in the Modesto Bee that "China, thanks to a lease issued by Cuba, is drilling for oil just 50 miles off Florida's coast."

A spokesman for Radanovich said Wednesday that the congressman had read about a Cuban lease to Chinese interests in the 2006 Times article.

China's Sinopec oil company does have an agreement with the Cuban government, but it's to develop onshore resources west of Havana, Pinon said. The Chinese have done some seismic testing, he said, but no drilling, and nothing offshore.

Western diplomats in Havana tell McClatchy that to the best of their knowledge, there is no Chinese drilling in or around Cuba.

"I've never heard anything about this," said one diplomat from a country in the hemisphere.

The Western diplomats, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak to the media about energy issues, said they believed there is no new drilling occurring off the coast of Cuba, just exploration.

Cuba's state oil company, Cupet, has issued exploration contracts to companies from India, Canada, Spain, Malaysia and Norway, according to diplomats.

But many oil companies from those countries have expressed reservations about how to turn potential crude oil into product. Cuba doesn't have the refinery capacity, and the Cuban embargo prohibits the oil from coming to U.S. refineries, Pinon said.

The most recent high-profile contract with Cuba went to Brazil's state oil company, Petrobras. Cuba inked a contract with Petrobras in January, allowing the Brazilian energy giant to search for oil in the deep waters of the Gulf of Mexico that are within Cuba's sovereign territory. Brazil's foreign minister, Celso Amorim, traveled to Cuba last month and talked up the oil business, along with a joint venture between Cuba and Petrobras to produce lubricants.

Most of Cuba's oil comes from Venezuela, with whom it shares an ideological bent and geographical proximity. Brazil's growing role in Cuba's energy sector is significant because Petrobras has been involved in some of the world's few discoveries of new and large oilfields.
 

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Interesting...GW is one of the first to criticize dems blocking conservatives efforts to drill - historically, and often, and this story highlights who was against this - specifically, and he worries about the date not being (I guess) from the present?
:shrug:

Thanks for a gentle reminder that blanket statements like we see here rarely are accurate, and cover all situations. I would wager that some of the players here that voted against drilling have used that same argument in political situations to paint dems as the blockers.

this article shows nothing more than some republicans gave in on the drilling issue in 2005 to get a reasonable budget passed....

chad...there are a "few" republicans that are against drilling....mclame is one of these assholes and that`s one of the big reasons i doubt i`ll vote for him....

but,the democrats are the ones blocking this....do not spin...that`s a fact.....

if we`re revisiting history,please remember that congress passed the bill to go forward with drilling but clinton vetoed the whole damned budget to stop it........we`de be getting oil out of anwar as we speak if not for clinton....

shame on that reprobate...

and please don`t bring up the federal lands that have been set aside as "drillable"....if there was oil there,the oil companies would be drilling there...

what your boys are doing is forcing us to send millions of dollars to our enemies to buy their oil...and it`s desipicable(and that goes double for the handful of "rino`s" that are stabbing us in the back)...

we`re in essence supporting our enemies because of partisan bickering...and the dems bass-ackwards plans to make the internal combustion engine obsolete before we have a real alternative to turn to.....

btw...how do you think saudi arabia,canada,mexico,the ussr,iran,china et al are getting oil?...

from the oil fairy?.....THEY`RE DRILLING!....in china`s case they`re drilling off OUR coast.....

that`s right...DRILLING!...

they`re utilizing their own resources..AND OURS....and we`re not...

and they`re laughing at us...


stop spinning....
 
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....in china`s case they`re drilling off OUR coast.....

that`s right...DRILLING!...

they`re utilizing their own resources..AND OURS....and we`re not...

and they`re laughing at us...

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I guess you didn't bother reading Chad's post directly above yours.:shrug:
 

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they`re utilizing their own resources..AND OURS....and we`re not...
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We produce 8.7 million barrels of our own oil per day - 3rd highest amount in the world. How in the hell does that not qualify as utilizing our resources?

You accuse others of spinning, yet you make ridiculous statements like that.
 

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Criticism halts Black is beautiful pet campaign Shelter's program


Updated 2:32 p.m. ET, Thurs., June. 12, 2008

Bowling Green, Kentucky -


An animal shelter owned and operated by
SixFive and DTB in Bowling Green, Kentucky
pulled the plug on a program promoting the adoption of black cats and dogs after criticism that the animals were just too black for people to adopt.

DTB stated that the black ones linger around 3-4 days or so before they throw them in a pond of quicksand in a alfalfa field on SixFive's property.

SixFive when questioned about the short timer black dogs and cats, said that sometimes they have to get the shotgun wedding treatment.

When questioned about the shotgun wedding statement , SixFive explained that was where you take a black dog and black cat, send them down a road and start shooting.

Eleven of 17 dogs and 12 of 24 cats at the shelter have black coats, shelter director DTB said. "It's just a known fact that black cats and black dogs are difficult to adopt," he said.

SixFive chimed in that the old saying the closer to the bone the sweeter the meat was just not true with black animals.

People choose other animals over the black cats and dogs for a variety of reasons, including superstition, fears of aggression and complaints they are just too black for Kentucky.
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:scared :scared


In society, we live in small worlds, don't talk to people, assume things and promote things that have no basis in reality, I would encourage DTB and SixFive to do more outreach on those black animals. Talk to people, get some feedback so these things don't happen.
 

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I just dont see what is so wrong with this

Drill in the middle of Florida if you have to.
 

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Criticism halts Black is beautiful pet campaign Shelter's program


Updated 2:32 p.m. ET, Thurs., June. 12, 2008

Bowling Green, Kentucky -


An animal shelter owned and operated by
SixFive and DTB in Bowling Green, Kentucky
pulled the plug on a program promoting the adoption of black cats and dogs after criticism that the animals were just too black for people to adopt.

DTB stated that the black ones linger around 3-4 days or so before they throw them in a pond of quicksand in a alfalfa field on SixFive's property.

SixFive when questioned about the short timer black dogs and cats, said that sometimes they have to get the shotgun wedding treatment.

When questioned about the shotgun wedding statement , SixFive explained that was where you take a black dog and black cat, send them down a road and start shooting.

Eleven of 17 dogs and 12 of 24 cats at the shelter have black coats, shelter director DTB said. "It's just a known fact that black cats and black dogs are difficult to adopt," he said.

SixFive chimed in that the old saying the closer to the bone the sweeter the meat was just not true with black animals.

People choose other animals over the black cats and dogs for a variety of reasons, including superstition, fears of aggression and complaints they are just too black for Kentucky.
..............................................................

:scared :scared


In society, we live in small worlds, don't talk to people, assume things and promote things that have no basis in reality, I would encourage DTB and SixFive to do more outreach on those black animals. Talk to people, get some feedback so these things don't happen.

Actually I have 2 black cats -one indoor and one out door--also played my weekly golf match with black father and son Wednesday.

However can readily understand your preception especially after reading your Obama on the issues that contains the Tony Robbins rhetoric and 100% void of any supporting facts--voting records etc

--but if he's offering you hope that you can believe in -I can respect that.:SIB
 

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I don't know why everyone does not understand this drilling thing is about Chenneys secreat energy plan. Plan is hold off drilling till his bank acct as well as Bush is real fat. Then once out of office we will drill every place. Some say in our back yards. And just like that we will have at least 3 trillion barrels. Almost 30% more then Saudi ever had. And the world will be a better place. With all old tech running are needs. Yes thats why Reb's blocked everything in 05. Chenney told them to.
 
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