Report: Michigan players allege NCAA violations

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Report: Michigan players allege NCAA violations
August 29, 2009


DETROIT (AP) -Several Michigan football players claim the program regularly violates NCAA rules limiting how much time they can spend on training and practice sessions, according to a published report.


Players from the 2008 and 2009 teams told the Detroit Free Press for a story published on the newspaper's Web site on Saturday that the amount of time they spend on football activities during the season and in the offseason greatly exceeds the limits. The players spoke to the newspaper on condition of anonymity because they feared repercussions from coaches.

Coach Rich Rodriguez and the university's compliance director, Judy Van Horn, both denied that the football program was violating NCAA rules.

``We know the practice and offseason rules, and we stay within the guidelines. We follow the rules and have always been completely committed to being compliant with all NCAA rules,'' Rodriguez said in a written statement to the newspaper.

Van Horn said her department conducts ``in-person spot checks of practice during the academic year and summer. We have not had any reason to self-report any violations in this area with any of our sports.''

NCAA rules allow eight hours a week for mandatory workouts during the offseason. However, players told the newspaper that they spent two to three times that amount on required workouts.

The players also said the amount of time they spent on football activities during the season exceeded the weekly limit of 20 hours and often exceeded the daily limit of four hours.

They also said quality-control staff often watched seven-on-seven offseason scrimmages that are supposed to be voluntary and that only training staff are allowed to attend.

The Free Press said five of the 10 current or former players it interviewed gave similar accounts of how the program is run and a sixth player confirmed most of the descriptions. Other players gave a general idea of the program. None disputed the allegations, the newspaper said.

The players acknowledged they had signed forms stating NCAA rules had been followed and had not told the university's compliance department about their concerns. One player told the Free Press that athletes would get in trouble if they didn't sign.
 

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Michigan begins investigating violations claims
August 31, 2009, at 12:07 AM ET


Detroit, MI (Sports Network) - The University of Michigan has begun a "full investigation" regarding several players' claims that the school has violated NCAA rules regarding time limits on off-season workouts and in-season demands.

Six players interviewed by the Detroit Free Press in a story released Saturday described how the training and practice sessions far exceeded limits set by the NCAA.

The newspaper reports players didn't want to be identified for fear of repercussions from coaches, but they said the violations occurred mostly under the direction of the staff of head coach Rich Rodriguez.

Michigan athletic director William C. Martin released a statement Sunday regarding the matter.

"We are committed to following both the letter and the intent of the NCAA rules and we take any allegations of violations seriously," Martin said. "We believe we have been compliant with NCAA rules but nonetheless we have launched a full investigation of the allegations in today's newspaper. We have already reached out to both the Big Ten and the NCAA and we will have more to say on this as soon as we have completed our assessment." The Free Press reports if the NCAA investigates and finds out that Michigan broke the rules and had knowledge of it, there could be some major violations for the school that has the record for most wins of any program in college football among bowl subdivision institutions.

Some of the players told the newspaper members of Rodriguez's staff have broken rules by monitoring off-season scrimmages. While the NCAA allows eight hours for required workouts each week, players have told the Free Press, the Wolverines were expected to spend two-to-three times more than that limit the past two offseasons.

In other details described by the newspaper, players said they spent at least nine hours on football activities on Sundays after games last fall. That's five more than the limit mandated by the NCAA. The players also said the Wolverines exceeded the weekly limit of 20 hours.

Information provided in cooperation with The Sports Network
 

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LOL, great program they have going on up there. Sounds like the Mike Vick work ethic.


Please don't be so naive to think the other big time schools don't bend the rules in regards to training, walk-thrus and film study....

Its funny that the so called news is coming from EX-players that were recruited under the Carr regime and have now transferred because they couldnt cut it under RR.....weed out the pussies who now have an axe to grind....
 

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I got an article the other day from a blogger covering Alabama football that talked about how some receiver was out at the practice field on a day between the end of 2adays and the start of school. He was out there by himself working on something, but word got out and before too long, all of other receivers showed up so that they wouldn't be outdone. I'm sure that goes on alot of places, but I'm guessing that it hasn't gone on at Michigan lately.
 

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Please don't be so naive to think the other big time schools don't bend the rules in regards to training, walk-thrus and film study....

Its funny that the so called news is coming from EX-players that were recruited under the Carr regime and have now transferred because they couldnt cut it under RR.....weed out the pussies who now have an axe to grind....

I'm pretty sure you didn't understand what I was saying. I don't think other big time schools do, I think ALL BIG TIME schools do it. I was basically saying that the kids have work ethics like Vick if they're willing to bitch about this. 20 hours a week during the season is nothing once you start adding up everything they have to do.
 

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I'm pretty sure you didn't understand what I was saying. I don't think other big time schools do, I think ALL BIG TIME schools do it. I was basically saying that the kids have work ethics like Vick if they're willing to bitch about this. 20 hours a week during the season is nothing once you start adding up everything they have to do.

My bad for misinterpreting....
 

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Its funny that the so called news is coming from EX-players that were recruited under the Carr regime and have now transferred because they couldnt cut it under RR.....weed out the pussies who now have an axe to grind....

Exactly. This is today's pampered youth trying to strike back at someone that tried to make them work (for a change). Good luck in life boys. Life's a bitch, football is the easy part.
 

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Not sure if anyone cares, but this whole thing is going nowhere. Michigan's AD has had people digging since they were tipped off about this story Friday. No violations occurred and all the documentation is in place. All the players (including the transfers who are quoted in the report) signed affidavits saying all work over 20 hours was voluntary. Compliance has dozens of records of spot checks of all workouts (in season and out).

The real problem I see is that once RichRod wins here (2010 at the latest) and opportunities pop up elsewhere then he will bolt. Why would anyone want to stay at a place where the hometown newspaper is trying to string you up? Can you imagine this happening in CBus or Austin? :mj07:
 

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I'm pretty sure you didn't understand what I was saying. I don't think other big time schools do, I think ALL BIG TIME schools do it. I was basically saying that the kids have work ethics like Vick if they're willing to bitch about this. 20 hours a week during the season is nothing once you start adding up everything they have to do.

Ditto
 

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Practice time limit rules only on paper

Practice time limit rules only on paper

Practice time limit rules only on paper
I don't believe any college football program follows the weekly 20-hour limit of "football activities" to the second. I don't believe any program follows the offseason limit of eight hours per week.

Not Michigan or Texas or UNLV or UCLA or New Mexico State or Middle Tennessee State. No one. That they dutifully fill out accountability forms for the school's NCAA compliance officer is about as believable as someone totaling his itemized tax form.

When in doubt, scribble in an extra business dinner or stapler for the office.

To some degree, I believe all football programs go over the mandatory time limits set forth by the sanctimonious architects of often idiotic rules known as the NCAA.

How much over is the issue. A few hours is one thing. An entire day is another.

Michigan football has never been smacked with major NCAA violations, but it might soon land in that shameful neighborhood now that current and former players are saying the Wolverines, under second-year coach Rich Rodriguez, have treated the NCAA-mandated clock like an all-night fraternity bash.

That they would spend nine to 10 hours on Sunday in football activities during the season and two to three times more than the allowed eight hours in the offseason, when 7-on-7 drills allegedly were observed by staff members, which is prohibited by the NCAA.

Michigan went 3-9 last season.

Maybe it should have practiced more.

What the case at Michigan has done is emphasize a truth that college football long ago became a full-time trade for players, with much of their work hours cloaked under the laughable heading of ''voluntary workouts.''

A football coach utters the word voluntary and I wonder if he is auditioning a new stand-up comedy act.

There is nothing voluntary about these workouts and weight training sessions. There is nothing voluntary about them for players who are perpetually fearful of descending the depth chart or not exhibiting to their position coach a maniacal desire to improve.

If they are voluntary, why do coaches know exactly who participated and who didn't? Do you really believe coaches aren't continually ''suggesting'' players attend these workouts?

It has become a clich? nationally for programs to boast attendance at or near 100 percent for offseason and summer workouts. Coaches brag about such commitment as if it were uncommon elsewhere. Everyone has perfect attendance now. A college football player working on his skills is now as much a year-round occurrence as the changing seasons. They are all too afraid of falling behind.
 
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