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I won't be watching it as I don't know which is getting more redundant and boring on tv--California fire or O speeches--


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"If you haven't been counting the number of speeches President Obama has delivered, CBS' Mark Knoller has.
Tuesday's address was the 263rd speech or set of remarks delivered by President Obama since he took office only 231 days ago -- that's 32 more speeches than days he's served. As Brit mentioned earlier, President Obama has delivered 28 speeches specifically on the issue of health care. But if you include all remarks in which he mentioned health care reform that number jumps to 121."----


I know regardless of what he says -the facts
Thomas Sowell pointed out will still remain-
entire article
What Obama Says vs. What He Does

By Thomas Sowell

The most important thing about what anyone says are not the words themselves but the credibility of the person who says them.
The words of convicted swindler Bernie Madoff were apparently quite convincing to many people who were regarded as knowledgeable and sophisticated. If you go by words, you can be led into anything.

No doubt millions of people will be listening to the words of President Barack Obama Wednesday night when he makes a televised address to a joint session of Congress on his medical care plans. But, if they think that the words he says are what matters, they can be led into something much worse than being swindled out of their money.
One plain fact should outweigh all the words of Barack Obama and all the impressive trappings of the setting in which he says them: He tried to rush Congress into passing a massive government takeover of the nation's medical care before the August recess-- for a program that would not take effect until 2013!
Whatever President Obama is, he is not stupid. If the urgency to pass the medical care legislation was to deal with a problem immediately, then why postpone the date when the legislation goes into effect for years-- more specifically, until the year after the next Presidential election?
If this is such an urgently needed program, why wait for years to put it into effect? And if the public is going to benefit from this, why not let them experience those benefits before the next Presidential election?
If it is not urgent that the legislation goes into effect immediately, then why don't we have time to go through the normal process of holding Congressional hearings on the pros and cons, accompanied by public discussions of its innumerable provisions? What sense does it make to "hurry up and wait" on something that is literally a matter of life and death?
If we do not believe that the President is stupid, then what do we believe? The only reasonable alternative seems to be that he wanted to get this massive government takeover of medical care passed into law before the public understood what was in it.
Moreover, he wanted to get re-elected in 2012 before the public experienced what its actual consequences would be.
Unfortunately, this way of doing things is all too typical of the way this administration has acted on a wide range of issues.
Consider the "stimulus" legislation. Here the administration was successful in rushing a massive spending bill through Congress in just two days-- after which it sat on the President's desk for three days, while he was away on vacation. But, like the medical care legislation, the "stimulus" legislation takes effect slowly.
The Congressional Budget Office estimates that it will be September 2010 before even three-quarters of the money will be spent. Some economists expect that it will not all be spent by the end of 2010.
What was the rush to pass it, then? It was not to get that money out into the economy as fast as possible. It was to get that money-- and the power that goes with it-- into the hands of the government. Power is what politics is all about.
The worst thing that could happen, from the standpoint of those seeking more government power over the economy, would be for the economy to begin recovering on its own while months were being spent debating the need for a "stimulus" bill. As the President's chief of staff, Rahm Emanuel, said, you can't let a crisis "go to waste" when "it's an opportunity to do things you could not do before."
There are lots of people in the Obama administration who want to do things that have not been done before-- and to do them before the public realizes what is happening.
The proliferation of White House "czars" in charge of everything from financial issues to media issues is more of the same circumvention of the public and of the Constitution. Czars don't have to be confirmed by the Senate, the way Cabinet members must be, even though czars may wield more power, so you may never know what these people are like, until it is too late.
What Barack Obama says Wednesday night is not nearly as important as what he has been doing-- and how he has been doing
 

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I won't be watching it as I don't know which is getting more redundant and boring on tv--California fire or O speeches--

So you dont care about the Nations health, childrens education nor the enviornment? Help us out DTB the nation is in need:SIB
 

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Little known Louisiana Rep. Charles Boustany will be delivering the GOP response to President Obama's address to a joint session of Congress tonight.

What is known about Boustany is that he is a heart surgeon. Somewhat ironically, Boustany is also the co-sponsor of the "Life Sustaining Treatment Preferences Act of 2009" which would mandate that Medicare reimburse the cost of end-of-life counseling -- the so-called "death panels."

He is also a self-proclaimed Birther!

Look for more outrageous lies from a rebuttal written by United Health Care and others.

DTB can't watch it as Fox is showing a dance reality show. I guess it wasn't important for Fox and its listeners to hear from the most important leader of the free world. It doesn't surprise that DTB is being one of Fox's sheep tonight.
 

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Little known Louisiana Rep. Charles Boustany will be delivering the GOP response to President Obama's address to a joint session of Congress tonight.

What is known about Boustany is that he is a heart surgeon. Somewhat ironically, Boustany is also the co-sponsor of the "Life Sustaining Treatment Preferences Act of 2009" which would mandate that Medicare reimburse the cost of end-of-life counseling -- the so-called "death panels."

He is also a self-proclaimed Birther!

Look for more outrageous lies from a rebuttal written by United Health Care and others.

DTB can't watch it as Fox is showing a dance reality show. I guess it wasn't important for Fox and its listeners to hear from the most important leader of the free world. It doesn't surprise that DTB is being one of Fox's sheep tonight.

You all are sheep, both republicans and democrats. You are just not intelligent enough to see it.:0corn
 

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The only people against this health care are the same ones who sold us on Iraq. Just something to think about when you hear all the negative stuff being said about this plan and confusing the American people the same way they confused the American people about why we had to attack Iraq.
 

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You all are sheep, both republicans and democrats. You are just not intelligent enough to see it.:0corn

That's two strikes against you about me Keeko. I just report the facts like Bill O'Reilly. Guess you didn't bother looking at the SCOTUS post, defending both parties - just as important a topic as health reform.
 

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i think president obama should be working on getting the amercain people works jobs SO WE CAN BUY OUR OWN INSURANCE, GIVING THE FARM AWAY WILL ONLY PUT THE UNTIED STATES DEEPER IN DEBT! I AM SORRY HE SOLD US OUT:0corn OBAMA IS JUST LIKE BUSH !IF NOT WORST THIS COUNTRY NEED REAL LEADERSHP.;) SAD THING THERE NO ONE WITH ANY LEADERSHIP OUT THERE TO WORK FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE! THE LAST TRUE PRESIDENT WAS JFK , AND WHAT HAPPEN TO HIM:nono: SO SAYING ALOT OF NOTHING WE ARE FVCK NITHER WAY:mj07:
 
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You forgot to post pictures of The Black Panthers.
How about pic of author I quoted -Thomas Sowell--will that do ;)

He's a very sharp fellow IMO

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Wonder if O is going to have any questions afterwards--
I'd like to ask him--
pssst Gumby-- If your real objective is to lower healthcare cost instead of political posturing--why in your 1200 pages is there not a mention of Tort Reform--you bitched about the unnecessary tests in last banter but fail to mention why they have to run them-- to cover their ass--

Believe however Baron had best analysis of what he calls Gumby's "convenient fantasies"

As you liberal view tonight--bear in mind this the translation of his liberal rhetoric-

We are going to save money by spending money

We are going to solve our fiscal problems with a program that will increase the national debt by $1,000,000,000,000 over a decade

We are going to guarantee you can keep your current insurance with a bill that encourages your employer to stop offering it.

We are going to improve health care for seniors by cutting $500,000,000,000 from Medicare

We aren't going to insure illegal aliens, except that we won't have any verification provisions to see that they can't apply and get benefits.

:)
 

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i think president obama should be working on getting the amercain people works jobs SO WE CAN BUY OUR OWN INSURANCE, GIVING THE FARM AWAY WILL ONLY PUT THE UNTIED STATES DEEPER IN DEBT! I AM SORRY HE SOLD US OUT:0corn OBAMA IS JUST LIKE BUSH !IF NOT WORST THIS COUNTRY NEED REAL LEADERSHP.;) SAD THING THERE NO ONE WITH ANY LEADERSHIP OUT THERE TO WORK FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE! THE LAST TRUE PRESIDENT WAS JFK , AND WHAT HAPPEN TO HIM:nono: SO SAYING ALOT OF NOTHING WE ARE FVCK NITHER WAY:mj07:


Go find yourself a job, you lazy monkey Raymond. Burger King has 3rd shift openings....however you may not be trainable...maybe you can ride a garbage truck.


See, if you had listened and stayed in school and studied hard, maybe you could be President. Instead you're just a ..................whiner looking for the President to hand you a job.

Whaasmatta' can't make it on welfare?
 

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--why in your 1200 pages is there not a mention of Tort Reform--

Missouri has tort reform. California has tort reform. South Carolina has tort reform.

Has the cost of malpractice insurance gone down in those states? NO!

Has the cost of health care gone down in those states? NO!

So who has benefited from tort reform? The insurance companies got handed a huge profit, and the public and physicians got screwed.

Typical Republican horseshit: Take the bribes, screw the public.

Go ahead, doggy, look it up. Just don't let your pea brain get more addled by facts.
 

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You all are sheep, both republicans and democrats. You are just not intelligent enough to see it.:0corn
Anti-establishment posters here like Trampled Underfoot, Hard Times and Illuminati are the real deal. You, on the other hand, are just a poser.
 

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Anti-establishment posters here like Trampled Underfoot, Hard Times and Illuminati are the real deal. You, on the other hand, are just a poser.

Both you and Trampled are morons. Obama apologists are all you guys are. You are too blinded by party to see it though.
 

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Both you and Trampled are morons. Obama apologists are all you guys are. You are too blinded by party to see it though.
And YOU'RE the great oracle of knowledge? :mj07:

If you're suddenly the anti-establishment hero you're trying to pass yourself off as, show me ONE SINGLE post of yours on this site where you've bashed Bush or any other Republican. Because I can probably pull a couple hundred quotes from your Obama smear campaign last year.
 

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Go find yourself a job, you lazy monkey Raymond. Burger King has 3rd shift openings....however you may not be trainable...maybe you can ride a garbage truck.


See, if you had listened and stayed in school and studied hard, maybe you could be President. Instead you're just a ..................whiner looking for the President to hand you a job.

Whaasmatta' can't make it on welfare?

listen dip shit , i owe my bussiness and i am holding my own, sent 4 kids to private school for 12 years and senting one kid to college! i am far from a lasy bum lol, raymond earns his money!
i don't need any handouts! i make things happen:thefinger
 

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And YOU'RE the great oracle of knowledge? :mj07:

If you're suddenly the anti-establishment hero you're trying to pass yourself off as, show me ONE SINGLE post of yours on this site where you've bashed Bush or any other Republican. Because I can probably pull a couple hundred quotes from your Obama smear campaign last year.

The older we get the wiser we get. Unfortunately for you that hasn't happened.
 

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Go find yourself a job, you lazy monkey Raymond. Burger King has 3rd shift openings....however you may not be trainable...maybe you can ride a garbage truck.


See, if you had listened and stayed in school and studied hard, maybe you could be President. Instead you're just a ..................whiner looking for the President to hand you a job.

Whaasmatta' can't make it on welfare?

:mj06:
 
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The older we get the wiser we get. Unfortunately for you that hasn't happened.
Can't produce a single quote where you posted a negative comment about Bush or any other Republican, eh Keeko?

Typical neoconservative. You're only anti-establishment when there's a Democrat in office.

Pardon my skepticism, oh wise one. :142smilie
 

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lsten dip shit , i owe my bussiness and i am holding my own, sent 4 kids to private school for 12 years and senting one kid to college! i am far from a lasy bum lol, raymond earns his money!
i don't need any handouts! i make things happen:thefinger

Jeezus, I'll give you one thing - you're always good for a laugh.

Now go get your GED.
 
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