Mo says no to O

[DOGS THAT BARK]

Immigration---now Healthcare-
-citizens revolt!!!!!!!!!!

From the bellweather --show me state.

ST. LOUIS ? Missouri voters on Tuesday overwhelmingly rejected a federal mandate to purchase health insurance, rebuking President Barack Obama's administration and giving Republicans their first political victory in a national campaign to overturn the controversial health care law passed by Congress in March.

"The citizens of the Show-Me State don't want Washington involved in their health care decisions," said Sen. Jane Cunningham, R-Chesterfield, one of the sponsors of the legislation that put Proposition C on the August ballot. She credited a grass-roots campaign involving Tea Party and patriot groups with building support for the anti-Washington proposition.


"With most of the vote counted, Proposition C was winning by a ratio of nearly 3 to 1.
The measure, which seeks to exempt Missouri from the insurance mandate in the new health care law, includes a provision that would change how insurance companies that go out of business in Missouri liquidate their assets."

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/...cle_c847dc7c-564c-5c70-8d90-dfd25ae6de56.html

 

[Duff Miver]

Nobody cares what the MO teabaggers think they want. They're just a bunch of ignorant jerk-offs who don't have a clue.. Like you, doggie.

 

[THE KOD]

Nobody cares what the MO teabaggers think they want. They're just a bunch of ignorant jerk-offs who don't have a clue.. Like you, doggie.

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Got to agree Duff.


They dont even realize what is going to come up behind them and kick them in the ass.

Insurance companies drooling they will be able to charge them anything they want.

another dumb ass thread by DTBlackgumbyathon

 

[Trampled Underfoot]

Its just like DTB and his clan voting on behalf of corporations. They are simpletons. They don't have a clue what is best for them. Propaganda is quite a powerful tool.

 

[Trench]

The measure... includes a provision that would change how insurance companies that go out of business in Missouri liquidate their assets."

Translation: Cayman Islands... :142smilie

 

[Turfgrass]

Nobody cares what the MO teabaggers think they want. They're just a bunch of ignorant jerk-offs who don't have a clue..

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Got to agree Duff.


They dont even realize what is going to come up behind them and kick them in the ass.

They are simpletons. They don't have a clue what is best for them. Propaganda is quite a powerful tool.

I guess it doesn't really matter that the public doesn't want the plan. After all, they're just part of the dumb masses. They really don't understand the wonderful things the Democrats are trying to do for them.

So I guess the idea that individuals are going to have enough knowledge and enough savvy and enough insight and, frankly, enough guts to make choices all by themselves is pretty much a pipe dream.

How about the freedom to be responsible for our own lives, and suffer the consequences of irresponsible or stupid decisions? Sorry ... no thanks. Too much freedom. Give me government.

And you guys say you like Ron Paul...:shrug:

:0corn

 

[Skulnik]

A proud member of the 71%.

Skulnik Voted YES!!!!!!



:0074

 

[Trampled Underfoot]

I guess it doesn't really matter that the public doesn't want the plan. After all, they're just part of the dumb masses. They really don't understand the wonderful things the Democrats are trying to do for them.

So I guess the idea that individuals are going to have enough knowledge and enough savvy and enough insight and, frankly, enough guts to make choices all by themselves is pretty much a pipe dream.

How about the freedom to be responsible for our own lives, and suffer the consequences of irresponsible or stupid decisions? Sorry ... no thanks. Too much freedom. Give me government.

And you guys say you like Ron Paul...:shrug:

:0corn

That would be great except you have to realize most people are fucking stupid. How the hell does Glenn Beck have a huge show? You tell me that. I sat and watched it the other night and he has gotten worse.

If you took propaganda out of the mix we would have a fair fight. Now you have the powers that be influencing morons to fight on your behalf. You have dogs fighting for corporations. I know that guy doesn't make much money but he will do whatever the power elite tell him to do. He is a fool.

Sure the Dems suck. What does this have to do with the Dems? Wake up.

 

[Turfgrass]

That would be great except you have to realize most people are fucking stupid. How the hell does Glenn Beck have a huge show? You tell me that. I sat and watched it the other night and he has gotten worse.

If you took propaganda out of the mix we would have a fair fight. Now you have the powers that be influencing morons to fight on your behalf. You have dogs fighting for corporations. I know that guy doesn't make much money but he will do whatever the power elite tell him to do. He is a fool.

Sure the Dems suck. What does this have to do with the Dems? Wake up.

Does this mean your for freedom of choice? :shrug:

If most people are stupid...I take it that doesn't include you, so you should be in charge.

Last I checked there was about 300 million people in the US, and I don't think Glenn Beck has a majority watching his show. If 2% of the population watched his show I would be surprised.

And in case you weren't watching not many people other than Democrats passed the health care bill, so that's what it has to do with Dems...

:0corn

 

[Trampled Underfoot]

Does this mean your for freedom of choice? :shrug:

If most people are stupid...I take it that doesn't include you, so you should be in charge.

Last I checked there was about 300 million people in the US, and I don't think Glenn Beck has a majority watching his show. If 2% of the population watched his show I would be surprised.

And in case you weren't watching not many people other than Democrats passed the health care bill, so that's what it has to do with Dems...

:0corn

Since the 1970s health care has been a demand of the public. The US health care system has been a mess. Its expensive and corrupt. The elite have suppressed the discussion of health care for decades. I actually applaud the Dems (kind of, we still need a public option) because this is something the insurance companies did not want it. The banks didn't want it. Pharmaceutical companies didn't want it. I wonder why?

And yet you have the propaganda machine running again. All of a sudden some people don't want a health care plan. A propaganda machine paid for by the rich and all the interests I listed above. Its just amazing the shit some people will fall for. Its the same people that are fed the lies about the wars. They have been made to think that we should continue to fight useless wars that THEY are spending their money on instead of taking care of their health. So you have the rich getting richer on the war and the higher health costs. Instead of no war and the people's tax money actually going to help them. I know it sounds really crazy.

 

[Trampled Underfoot]

Does this mean your for freedom of choice? :shrug:

If most people are stupid...I take it that doesn't include you, so you should be in charge.

This is another thing to point out. The founding fathers understood that in reality most people aren't that bright. We don't have a true democracy. We didn't have a 300 million people vote on health care. We had our representatives vote for us. Do they really vote in our interests? Sure they listen and they want to be re-elected. However, those dollars from those that influence Washington are pretty powerful. I'm actually shocked something passed. Its not really good enough for me but its something. Lots more work to be done. Will it ever be done? I doubt it.

 

[Turfgrass]

Since the 1970s health care has been a demand of the public. The US health care system has been a mess. Its expensive and corrupt. The elite have suppressed the discussion of health care for decades. I actually applaud the Dems (kind of, we still need a public option) because this is something the insurance companies did not want it. The banks didn't want it. Pharmaceutical companies didn't want it. I wonder why?

And yet you have the propaganda machine running again. All of a sudden some people don't want a health care plan. A propaganda machine paid for by the rich and all the interests I listed above. Its just amazing the shit some people will fall for. Its the same people that are fed the lies about the wars. They have been made to think that we should continue to fight useless wars that THEY are spending their money on instead of taking care of their health. So you have the rich getting richer on the war and the higher health costs. Instead of no war and the people's tax money actually going to help them. I know it sounds really crazy.

OK let me see if I can follow...Most of the public (which is stupid) wanted health care since 1970...so by that rational we should increase the size of government and make people less free to choose what they want. Is that about right?

As far as propaganda... Obama has the largest propaganda machines at his disposal and still these people don't want health care. Shouldn't they have the right to choose? (Strike that I forgot they're stupid)

Oh yeah one other thing...you didn't hear a peep out of Insurance, Banks, or Big Pharma because they are the ones GETTING PAID from the government. Medicaid and Medicare pay fixed amounts to all those folks and it's set by...guess who...that's right, Lobbyist.

Follow the money...who's getting paid?

 

[Trampled Underfoot]

Oh yeah one other thing...you didn't hear a peep out of Insurance, Banks, or Big Pharma because they are the ones GETTING PAID from the government. Medicaid and Medicare pay fixed amounts to all those folks and it's set by...guess who...that's right, Lobbyist.

There were plenty of ads against the health care bill. Where have you been?

Once again, and i'll state it clearly. The tax payers money should be spent on tax payer benefits. Not on illegal wars. Maybe we could even fix some of the infrastructure instead of destroying it in the third world.

 

[kcwolf]

I basically don't care for forced insurance, but I assume it keeps insurance costs down somewhat likie car insurance. The real point is why are states wasting money putting a poll on the ballot?

It is as dumb as Arizona superceding federal law on immigration. States with republican run governments using political footballs for something they can't overide, that is stupid. And trying to eliminate one part of a complex new law, whether you like it or not, is dumb.

Everyone knows you can word anything to where you can get the intended results.

 

[Turfgrass]

Health Care offers something that more Americans now value above all: stability. Americans think they want freedom. (What a crock) Americans will whine about their freedom to choose which sports team to root for or which Hollywood gossip magazine to buy, but when freedom requires any ounce of personal responsibility, people immediately wipe their hands clean and want someone else to do it for them.

"You cannot legislate the poor into freedom by legislating the wealthy out of freedom. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that, my dear friend, is about the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it."

Dr. Adrian Pierce Rogers

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

This is just Fla--

By Josh Hafenbrack, Tallahassee Bureau
President Obama?s health care reform will add between 950,000 and 1.4 million people to Florida?s Medicaid rolls, a Washington-based health care organization said Wednesday.
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Over 13 million (many illegals) will be added to Medicade and some how a few Eisteins have have been grifted into believing a federal gov can run program that will reduce cost.

Absoluting no use even discussing it with the likes.

Thankfully majority of amercians see the light--

Then u got DA Base receiving the benefits and "a few" of liberal element left still sipping

 

[Turfgrass]

Obamacare is the worst possible answer. All it does is perpetuate a flawed system by forcing everyone to become a client of insurance companies, even those who don?t want to or need to participate.

Why should anyone be forced to subsidize the medical care of others? Very few individuals would personally assault their neighbors at gunpoint and steal thousands of dollars to pay for their own medical needs. How could any freedom loving person agree to delegate such criminal acts to the government by supporting a compulsory health insurance system?

Ron Paul

 

[Turfgrass]

This is just Fla--

By Josh Hafenbrack, Tallahassee Bureau
President Obama?s health care reform will add between 950,000 and 1.4 million people to Florida?s Medicaid rolls, a Washington-based health care organization said Wednesday.
=========================

Over 13 million (many illegals) will be added to Medicade and some how a few Eisteins have have been grifted into believing a federal gov can run program that will reduce cost.

Absoluting no use even discussing it with the likes.

Thankfully majority of amercians see the light--

Then u got DA Base receiving the benefits and "a few" of liberal element left still sipping

DTB...I don't know if you've heard, but they don't know what they need, (being too stupid and all) so the lovers-of-all-things-government will provide.

 

[Trampled Underfoot]

Obamacare is the worst possible answer. All it does is perpetuate a flawed system by forcing everyone to become a client of insurance companies, even those who don?t want to or need to participate.

Why should anyone be forced to subsidize the medical care of others? Very few individuals would personally assault their neighbors at gunpoint and steal thousands of dollars to pay for their own medical needs. How could any freedom loving person agree to delegate such criminal acts to the government by supporting a compulsory health insurance system?

Ron Paul

I support Ron Paul and would probably vote for him again but I think everyone should have health coverage in this country.

 

[Duff Miver]

Why should anyone be forced to subsidize the medical care of others? Very few individuals would personally assault their neighbors at gunpoint and steal thousands of dollars to pay for their own medical needs.

Ron Paul

Why should everyone be forced to subsidize public schools when they have no school-age children? Why should everyone be forced to support the military in wars they do not want? Why should everyone be forced to support public fire and police? Why should non-flyers support the FAA, why should those who do not need drugs support the FDA? Why should we all support the FBI, FTC, CIA, OSS, and all the other things which we all pay for and which are available to all.

Let's see you or Ron Paul answer.

What? No answers?

:mj07: