Recent content by BadAngel

  1. BadAngel

    Plays Sat

    YTD 6-3 (+16.7) Fri 4-0 (+17) 5x Mia +105 Mets +105 4x NYY -160 GL BA
  2. BadAngel

    Plays Fri

    Thanks D2. GL buddy
  3. BadAngel

    Plays Fri

    Me neither. I wish I would not have posted those 2 1st 5inn plays on opening day. I would be 6-1 in full games if I didn't. I am just keeping that in my head. Thats where I am at. LOL. I am pretty confident right know. I'll prob jinx myself. LOL
  4. BadAngel

    Plays Fri

    There we go Coach
  5. BadAngel

    Plays Fri

    Thanks, Smitty. GL this season
  6. BadAngel

    Plays Fri

    Glad to help Ramjet. I'll take the 4-0 sweep.
  7. BadAngel

    Plays Fri

    4x SD -125 Ariz -140 GL BA
  8. BadAngel

    Plays Fri

    YTD 2-3 (-.3) 4x Mets +105 Oak +120 GL BA
  9. BadAngel

    Baseball Schedules

    Thanks bulldog
  10. BadAngel

    Regular MLB Season WiLd StYlE 2025

    GL this season WildBill
  11. BadAngel

    Play Ball

    I had Tor also. They played like crap. They were never in the game. GL the rest of the season ramjet
  12. BadAngel

    Plays Thur

    FG (2-1) (+4) 1st 5 (0-2) (-4.3) I am going to add them together. Just YTD from now on. I should have said FG 4x, 1st 5 2x. I always play more on FG. I might not even post 1st 5 anymore. (I lost them both by 1 run though)
  13. BadAngel

    Bases 3/27

    2-1 Good Job. I almost took Skenes
  14. BadAngel

    Plays Thur

    Thanks Junior. Same to you Buddy
  15. BadAngel

    Plays Thur

    Old Tourneys 37-24 (+38.6) New Tourneys 22-18 (+4.3) Tues 0-1 (-4.6) BYU +5 GL BA
  16. BadAngel

    Plays Thur

    This is why I don't like the BET early I bet this stupid thing yesterday and he ain't starting
  17. BadAngel

    Plays Thur

    I hope so bottom. I just hope I start off on the right foot.
  18. BadAngel

    Plays Thur

    YTD (0-0) 1st 5 (0-0) FG SF -105 Tor -110 Cle +110 1st 5 SF -115 Cle +110 GL BA I don't know if I am going to keep Full game and 1st 5 records Separate. We'll see
  19. BadAngel

    Plays Tues

    I like Francona. Prob my favorite manager. I know one thing I don't like Reds opening day. I like Logan Webb Thur. I am posting my plays now. Nothing against the Reds, bases are a day-to-day thing.
  20. BadAngel

    Plays Tues

    I changed to Okla St ML -115. Why lay the points. Sorry if I screwed anybody up with this change
  21. BadAngel

    Plays Tues

    Okla St -1 As much as I liked Chatt all day, I decided to pass. GL BA
  22. BadAngel

    Plays Tues

    Yes, I am. I hope anyway. LOL I am looking right now
  23. BadAngel

    Baseball Schedules

    Where do you guys get your schedules. I need one with daily games, I was getting don best but you have to draw the lines and shit. I used to get a book with about 3 weeks in them or 1 week in them. I want blanks. nothing with the odds already in them
  24. BadAngel

    Plays Tues

    Old Tourneys 37-24 (+38.6) New Tourneys 22-17 (+8.9) Mon 1-2 (-5.2) I'll be back
  25. BadAngel

    Plays Mon

    Somehow we need Florida to cover the 10 because I don't think this game is going over
  26. BadAngel

    Plays Mon

    Florida Gulf Coast -10 (-120)
  27. BadAngel

    Plays Mon

    Army over 154
  28. BadAngel

    Plays Mon

    Incarnate Word over 142 GL BA
  29. BadAngel

    Plays Sun

    Thats good 4C's because scholarships help. I loved that game of golf. I was on the golf team in High School. I was #3 man. My cousin was #1. The diff between me and him was huge. He got his card but never made it on the tour. He has been a teaching pro his whole life at courses. I met a lot of...
  30. BadAngel

    Plays Sun

    It got over 153. That is cool. Did he get a scholarship for golf there
  31. BadAngel

    Plays Sun

    I would like to split this No Ariz game. Get over the number
  32. BadAngel

    Plays Sun

    Presbyterian +5 GL BA
  33. BadAngel

    Plays Sun

    Like I told Big G, I hope you had a lot these except Florida. I wanted to play Duke but after the fla loss I said the heck with this Fav crap.
  34. BadAngel

    Plays Sun

    you're having fun then
  35. BadAngel

    Plays Sun

    LOL, hey your allowed sit out. Brian I hope you had the other ones except Florida. Some of them look crazy but they pay the same when you win. (I am not throwing darts. Yet LOL) GL on your Wildcats
  36. BadAngel

    Plays Sun

    Illinois ML -135 GL BA
  37. BadAngel

    Plays Sun

    Why not Keep going with the little guys No. Ariz+2 (-120) I hope they don't need it No Ariz over 152 GL BA
  38. BadAngel

    Plays Sun

    I forgot to post Duke over 146, but it is close to that live so I am counting it in record
  39. BadAngel

    Plays Sun

    LOL loop. This one is prob far off too. I did better with the little guys tourneys.
  40. BadAngel

    Plays Sun

    Army over 147 GL BA
  41. BadAngel

    Sunday

    GL Booms
  42. BadAngel

    Plays Sun

    Army +5 GL BA
  43. BadAngel

    Plays Sun

    I don't want to say this is a winner, but Manhattan over will soften the blow if Fla don't get a little pissed off here today.
  44. BadAngel

    Plays Sun

    4x Manhattan over 148 GL BA
  45. BadAngel

    Sunday Day 4

    yyz, I like all 3 of these.I think Fla crushes this team from the get-go. And I am a dog guy
  46. BadAngel

    Plays Sun

    I am moving this up to 5x. I see them smashing this team. Chomp Chomp Fla -9 GL BA
  47. BadAngel

    Plays Sun

    They had me worried there at the end. It reminded me of the Michigan game at the 10 min mark or whenever that was the game before.
  48. BadAngel

    Plays Sun

    Old Tourneys 37-24 (+38.6) New Tourneys 16-11 (+13.8) Sat 5-3 (+5.4)
  49. BadAngel

    Arkansas/at johns over worse beat of tourney

    Ark -St Johns total was disgusting
  50. BadAngel

    Plays Sat

    Your right I don't know.
  51. BadAngel

    Plays Sat

    LOL, that's a good one. Couldn't he stay awake another 30 seconds or so, that way you wouldn't have had to watch it.
  52. BadAngel

    Plays Sat

    If I would have lost this BYU game, I think I would just go to baseball. Man unreal
  53. BadAngel

    Plays Sat

    UCLA +6 (-120) He made them +5.5 and I bought to +6 GL BA
  54. BadAngel

    Huge play

    Welcome back EZ
  55. BadAngel

    Saturday

    Good job Booms. Bring BYU in now. I need them too. GL
  56. BadAngel

    Plays Sat

    I was rolling pretty good there, now lost 2 in a row.
  57. BadAngel

    Plays Sat

    BYU +2 (-120) I just took this now. I waited till he went to +1.5 and bought the half to make it +2. I hope they don't need it. GL BA
  58. BadAngel

    Plays Sat

    I took it early with my guy. I just posted it late because I wanted to stay in order. I should have posted it earlier. I hope it don't matter LOB. GL2us
  59. BadAngel

    Plays Sat

    Today so far so good.
  60. BadAngel

    Plays Sat

    I'll be back for this Drake-Texas Tech game.
  61. BadAngel

    Plays Sat

    I really like this a lot Texas A&M ML -135 GL BA
  62. BadAngel

    Plays Sat

    I wish they would have gotten St Johns pissed off a little earlier. They might scored some points
  63. BadAngel

    Plays Sat

    Thanks Buddy I am trying. GL today yyz
  64. BadAngel

    Plays Sat

    We got them Loop. Yeah
  65. BadAngel

    Plays Sat

    I hope I am not forcing this one Bradley over 133 GL BA
  66. BadAngel

    Plays Sat

    Thanks LOB, Big G, Rock. GL2U all
  67. BadAngel

    Plays Sat

    I think we have room for 1 more St John's over 146 GL BA
  68. BadAngel

    Plays Sat

    They might have heard me. LOL
  69. BadAngel

    Plays Sat

    I think this might be the last over bet in these tourneys for me. Nobody wants to score after the 1H anymore it looks like.
  70. BadAngel

    Plays Sat

    I like Chatt's offense. If they get going Dayton will have to try score to keep up. GL Loop
  71. BadAngel

    Plays Sat

    Purdue under 143 GL BA
  72. BadAngel

    Plays Sat

    Chatt +3 (-120) I hope they don't need it.
  73. BadAngel

    Plays Sat

    GL Bottom
  74. BadAngel

    Plays Sat

    Old Tourneys (+38.6) New Tourneys 11-8 (+8.4) Fri 2-1 (3.6) This one is early Dayton over 152 GL BA
  75. BadAngel

    Plays Fri

    2-1 (+3.6) Maybe I won't put my leans down. Xavier???
  76. BadAngel

    Plays Fri

    4C's that's the only way to think. Another day above ground. I wake up and say so far so good.
  77. BadAngel

    Plays Fri

    Thanks Boomer
  78. BadAngel

    Xavier @ Illinois

    I like it too. I just didn't take it.........yet
  79. BadAngel

    Plays Fri

    U Conn under 147 This one just a lean -- Xavier
  80. BadAngel

    Plays Fri

    Thats the truth. It's hard to keep track of. AND I AM NOT GETTING ANY YOUNGER LOL. My cousin and I were talking about are younger days About my memory. It was almost photographic. I am serious. I told him people should have a delete button to get some of this shit out of your head like a...
  81. BadAngel

    Plays Fri

    4C's, liked your Heels the first day because I figured they were pissed. It is a shame what college sports turned into. Nil, jumping teams. Same thing with Pro sports. Jumping around, whining until they get traded. This makes it harder to bet on too for people. So much more to keep track of. I...
  82. BadAngel

    Plays Fri

    I have been up since 4:30 lol. I didn't like the early ones that much. And as usual, ah forget it. I would have done ok.
  83. BadAngel

    Plays Fri

    Yeah I fixed it. Thank you Crazy. I wish I had 135.5 LOL.
  84. BadAngel

    Plays Fri

    Old Tourneys (+38.6) New Tourneys 9-7 +4.8) Thur 3-3 (-1.6) New Mex +4.5 New Mex over 153.5 I like a couple of more but I will wait. I think my ban is up. Just letting you guys know I splashed some more on Xander this morning. He was +1500. He closed in a stroke or 2. I think he is 2 back...
  85. BadAngel

    Round 1

    I like that one Boomer. Now everyone has a face to curse out. LOL. GL the rest of the tourney
  86. BadAngel

    Friday.....Day 2

    I kind of like that Alabama over. GL today yyz
  87. BadAngel

    64 (Friday)

    GL King
  88. BadAngel

    Plays Thur

    3-3 (-1.6)
  89. BadAngel

    Plays Thur

    Can't you reduce my sentence, I took Xander and before the round started. I'm not bragging about that , I think he is 3 shots back. LOL
  90. BadAngel

    Plays Thur

    2-2 so, far I guess it could have been worse. Ark +5 Yale +7 Drake over 133 Drake +6 GL BA
  91. BadAngel

    Plays Thur

    Georgia Plus 8
  92. BadAngel

    Plays Thur

    Byu over 147 Mcneese st +8
  93. BadAngel

    Plays Thur

    I took a shot today in Golf. I had Rory when he was 5 stokes down last week +650 and won. This week I took Xander Schauffele to win the tourney +1200. Then a real shot if he leads after 1st round +3500.
  94. BadAngel

    Plays Thur

    Old Tourneys (37-24) (+38.6) New Tourneys YTD (6-4) (+6.4) Purdue over 153 Played this over last night and hooked it up with San Fran over147. GL BA
  95. BadAngel

    Plays Wed

    4-3 (+2.8)
  96. BadAngel

    Plays Wed

    There is one to go night night with. Wake up Thur and hope SF went over.
  97. BadAngel

    Plays Wed

    I don't how I pulled this shit out but 3-3 looks pretty good about now. LOL 11:00 SF over 147 GL BA
  98. BadAngel

    Plays Wed

    I knew this was going to happen. They will prob all blow.
  99. BadAngel

    Plays Wed

    I left a lot off last night and did good. Tonight I am going to post more. I like a lot so watch out. LOL, if it goes bad, I will cut down the plays. I played these early, lines have changed. I know the totals did, at least a point or more. 6:40 American -2 7:00 UAB over 158 Dayton over 152...
  100. BadAngel

    Plays Wed

    Old Tourneys (37-24) (+38.6) New Tourneys 2-1 (+3.6) I am going to try to keep these tourneys separate, but if it becomes a pain in the ass, I will combine them. North Texas over 131 This for Big G. Good luck I hope it wins
  101. BadAngel

    Plays Tues

    2-1 (+3.6)
  102. BadAngel

    Plays Tues

    Chatt +2 Scores is tied you can prob get the same line GL BA
  103. BadAngel

    Plays Tues

    YTD 37-24 (+38.6) St Fran +4 Kent over 137 GL BA I'll be back.
  104. BadAngel

    Plays Sun

    Sun 2-1 (+3.2) Tourneys to date 37-24 (+38.6)
  105. BadAngel

    Plays Sun

    Merry Christmas Brian!!
  106. BadAngel

    Sunday Hoops

    GL bgsup
  107. BadAngel

    Plays Sun

    I know how much you love overs!!
  108. BadAngel

    Plays Sun

    VCU over 127 Fla over 142 GL BA This is for Big G. I hope they win if you tail.
  109. BadAngel

    SEC

    GL BA
  110. BadAngel

    Plays Sun

    you have a good line. They always have trouble with Memphis, but I took them any way
  111. BadAngel

    Plays Sun

    YTD 35-23 (+35.4) Sat 2-3 (-5.2) 4x UAB +5 (-120) Won with them Sat. I'll ride them 1 more day. GL BA
  112. BadAngel

    Plays Sat

    Sat 2-3 (-5.2)
  113. BadAngel

    Plays Sat

    The losses are really bad losses. hell of a way to lose. I had a 4 team ML par Wisc, Yale, Bryant and Maryland. Guy dribbles all the way in 4 seconds for a layup. (Loss.) Fri Tex +9-, 4 winners in and needed them. (LOSS) Thur 8 teamer needed Rutgers. Double OT loser. Pars are Hard. I use my...
  114. BadAngel

    Plays Sat

    I need Boise St to show some life in 2nd half
  115. BadAngel

    Plays Sat

    Ariz +6 GL BA Away from the computer for a while. Back home now in the war room after visiting the Great Grandson. Let's go
  116. BadAngel

    Saturday Straight Stuff w/2 parlays

    Good luck l o b
  117. BadAngel

    Saturday's Plays

    GL D2
  118. BadAngel

    Plays Sat

    Thanks smax, I hope it stays that way. Bases are coming soon.
  119. BadAngel

    Plays Sat

    YTD 33-20(+40.6) Fri 4-2 (+7.2) Wisc +4 (-120) Mich St under 145 UAB +4 (-120) Boise St Pick You can tell I hate betting favorites. GL BA
  120. BadAngel

    Plays Fri

    It is hard to pull back the rains. 2 days in a row, there was other games I liked After the Rutgers -USC disaster on my 8 teamer neeeeding only Rutgers. I had them all flat, smaller plays in with larger. The smaller I didn't post. I said the hell with it. So, I played 2 little pars, 3 teams $50...
  121. BadAngel

    3/15

    I like the 2 unders. GL
  122. BadAngel

    Plays Fri

    I am trying. Sometimes when you don't play everything you like, they win, sometimes they lose. You only get mad when you don't play them and they win. LOL
  123. BadAngel

    Plays Fri

    4-2 (+7.2) YTD 33-20 (+40.6) My Goal for the Tourneys was 50 units in this tourney and 50 units in the next one. Then Bases. Trying to be patient. Not play as many games. It is hard to pull back the reins sometimes.
  124. BadAngel

    Plays Fri

    3-2 so far Boise St +1 GL BA
  125. BadAngel

    3-14

    GL 12W
  126. BadAngel

    Plays Fri

    Quinnipiac -4
  127. BadAngel

    Friday

    Thunder welcome back
  128. BadAngel

    Plays Fri

    1-0
  129. BadAngel

    Friday Hoops

    Good luck bgs. I got St Louis too
  130. BadAngel

    Plays Fri

    Good luck to you too
  131. BadAngel

    Plays Fri

    I hope so 12 w
  132. BadAngel

    Plays Fri

    St Louis + 2
  133. BadAngel

    Plays Fri

    Kennesaw State + 7 - 120
  134. BadAngel

    Plays Fri

    Thanks same to you
  135. BadAngel

    Plays Fri

    YTD 29-18 (+33.4) Thur 3-3 (-1.2) Always 4x unless noted Mich St under 143 Wisc ML (-120) The rest later GL BA
  136. BadAngel

    Plays Thur

    Buddy, some days you just look at a card it looks Greek to me. Nothing against Greeks. You know what I mean. Some days you see everything. Friday is another day.
  137. BadAngel

    Plays Thur

    3-3 (-1.2) I'll take it. I said to myself this morning this is a shit card. I'll take the 3-3
  138. BadAngel

    Plays Thur

    Kent State und 143
  139. BadAngel

    Plays Thur

    Your right. I fucked this up. Bad pick
  140. BadAngel

    Alright Thursday

    Jord, Rutgers got me too. I was walking out the casino and played an 8 teamer for the hell of it. Something I never do. I had 7 winners in and needed Rutgers. Man was I pissed That is what I get for doing stupid shit like that
  141. BadAngel

    Plays Thur

    Snuck this one in. OT drives me nuts.
  142. BadAngel

    Plays Thur

    5:00 G Wash und 67.5 2-2 so far
  143. BadAngel

    Plays Thur

    This is all I need Toledo and overtime. Check Rutgers last night I don't have a whole lot of luck with overtimes. I'm still sick about that Rutgers that cost me a ton
  144. BadAngel

    Plays Thur

    You got the window there it's a good thing I'm driving because I couldn't see what the heck happened it must have been a total collapse
  145. BadAngel

    Plays Thur

    I figure you were probably going nuts there LOL
  146. BadAngel

    Plays Thur

    Toledo +3
  147. BadAngel

    Plays Thur

    Big G I know you like overs but I hope you had that one. The under 60
  148. BadAngel

    Plays Thur

    Duquesne first half under 60
  149. BadAngel

    Plays Thur

    Indiana + 2
  150. BadAngel

    Plays Thur

    Duquesne + 2
  151. BadAngel

    Plays Thur

    YTD 26-15 (+34.6) Wed 7-4 (+9.6) Rutgers double OT loss cost me a ton in pars. I'll be back
  152. BadAngel

    Plays Wed

    Wed 7-4 (+9.6)
  153. BadAngel

    Plays Wed

    Thanks Rutgers
  154. BadAngel

    Plays Wed

    Damn Rutgers. I did not want OT. AGH
  155. BadAngel

    Almost there...

    I hope you hit it. LOB.
  156. BadAngel

    Plays Wed

    I am quietly having a good day so far. The one I am worried about is Rutgers. Everybody seems to like USC.
  157. BadAngel

    Plays Wed

    CS Bakersfield +6(-120) GL BA
  158. BadAngel

    Plays Wed

    Great start in tourney, bad last 2 days. I will be all right. I better be. LOL
  159. BadAngel

    Wednesday

    I haven't been good since Sun. I am 2-2 today and I feel like I won. I hope I do good tonight so I can see light at the end of the tunnel. I can't shake it either during the early games I posted. GL Guys
  160. BadAngel

    Plays Wed

    I am trying Buddy
  161. BadAngel

    Plays Wed

    bg, that's a good one man. If you're from the Cleve area your probably fucking nuts anyway. I'm guilty as charged. LOL. I think I live close to you now. I moved to Parma. I moved from the east side. where are you at?
  162. BadAngel

    Plays Wed

    Depaul +5 (-120) GL BA I gotta be nuts taking this team LOL
  163. BadAngel

    Plays Wed

    Going into today YTD 19-11 (+25) Tues 2-4 (-10.6)
  164. BadAngel

    Plays Wed

    Thanks guys. I am hanging. I was at the casino, and it is hard to post. I am 2-2 so far here. I did not post a lot of my plays. This is what I have left. Iowa +6 Geo -3 (-120) SMU -8 (-130) American -4 Rutgers +1 GL BA
  165. BadAngel

    Plays Wed

    Prob be the only winner i will have. I can't stop the bleeding this week. After a great start. Unreal
  166. BadAngel

    Plays Wed

    Butler under 148
  167. BadAngel

    Plays Wed

    Rhode Island - 4 - 120
  168. BadAngel

    Plays Wed

    San Jose State plus one
  169. BadAngel

    Plays Wed

    Cin live +8.5
  170. BadAngel

    Plays Tues

    Tues 2-4 (-10.6) First bad day in Tourneys
  171. BadAngel

    Plays Tues

    1-3 going into the last 2 games
  172. BadAngel

    Plays Tues

    I can't believe NC Wilm can't shake this team
  173. BadAngel

    Plays Tues

    4x Utah State over 158 GL BA This is for you Big G. I know you like overs.
  174. BadAngel

    Plays Tues

    4x Albany +10.5 GL BA
  175. BadAngel

    Plays Tues

    This is not starting off well today. 0-2. I may call it a day. I like a couple of totals, but I will wait and see.
  176. BadAngel

    Plays Tues

    4x Maine +5 WINNER. Finally GL BA
  177. BadAngel

    Plays Tues

    4x Sam Houston 1H +1 LOSS 6:30 start GL BA
  178. BadAngel

    Plays Tues

    What's the definition of insanity? Oh yeah, keep doing the same thing over and over and expect different results. The definition of insanity should be keep betting TCU, Raymond.
  179. BadAngel

    3/11

    GL Buddy
  180. BadAngel

    Plays Tues

    I don't know why I keep wasting money on a shitty TCU team. They have been getting me the last few weeks. Oh well turn the page
  181. BadAngel

    3/11

    Welcome back 12 w
  182. BadAngel

    Plays Tues

    I figure they have to be tired and spent
  183. BadAngel

    Plays Tues

    YTD 17-7 (+35.6) Mon 1-1 (-2) 4x TCU ML (-125) LOSS UNC Wilm -8 (-120) LOSS GL BA
  184. BadAngel

    ARROWS Early line action for Tuesday

    GL Arrow. I already took TCU and NC Wilm myself and was hoping I didn't cross you. Because I sure don't like being on the other side of any of your plays.
  185. BadAngel

    3/10

    Don't stop now keep it going. GL
  186. BadAngel

    Monday Musings...

    Good job. Keep it going.
  187. BadAngel

    Plays Mon

    Thanks, bulldog. I appreciate the kind words. It has been a struggle, but I keep going. I am just happy to be on the right side of the grass. You and I have been on this site a long time. Me it is 1 day at a time. I hope all is well with you. GL in the tourneys bulldog.
  188. BadAngel

    Plays Mon

    I know terrible. I am not going to force anything. This card wasn't that great. I am going to take the split and get out till Tues.
  189. BadAngel

    Monday Musings...

    Good job LOB.
  190. BadAngel

    Plays Mon

    4x Wofford +1 Ark St ML -150 (this is what the line is now But I got it lower. I will use this) GL BA
  191. BadAngel

    Plays Mon

    Tourneys YTD 16-6 (+37.6) Sun 5-3 (+6.8) I am putting this down now in case I am driving and want to put in a play, it is easier.
  192. BadAngel

    Back For tourney time

    I have 4 Grandkids,3 boys and a girl, and 1 Great Grandson. And a Great Granddaughter on the way . April 15. They keep me busy.
  193. BadAngel

    Back For tourney time

    You want to know about getting your ass kicked, I have a Great Grandson that is 2. I am 76. LOL. My daughter gets him and when she calls me she needs a break. Help. Hey your 51 my dear. He kept opening the front door going PaPa. I laughed my ass off when she told me that
  194. BadAngel

    Back For tourney time

    Welcome back and GL
  195. BadAngel

    Plays Sun

    4x St Thomas over 70.5 1H. Tailing Arrow GL BA
  196. BadAngel

    Plays Sun

    4x Col St- Web St 1H over 68.5 GL BA
  197. BadAngel

    ARROW Sunday

    Great job Dave. I had a couple and got busy and missed a couple. thanks
  198. BadAngel

    Plays Sun

    This live betting is killing me. When I don't do it the team wins. I am quitting posting them. Today, 0-2.
  199. BadAngel

    Plays Sun

    4x Furman +2 GL BA
  200. BadAngel

    Plays Sun

    The last thing I want to see is Minn-Rutg OT
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