1994 vs 2010 part 2

DOGS THAT BARK · Nov 16, 2010

appears we got the answer on 1994/2010 comparison.

Europes take--

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...t-refudiation-of-barack-obama/article1797191/

As even Freud conceded, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. Sometimes a drubbing is just a drubbing. Accept no spinning: This was a bloodbath. You almost had to be Delaware?s Christine O?Donnell or Nevada?s Sharron Angle to lose as a Republican. A gain of at least 61 in the House, the largest swing since 1948 and the largest in a midterm election since 1938, and a gain of six in the Senate.

--and just as intriguing is liberals spin on it--

Bill Maher

"America is like a dog. I'm sorry, but it is. It cannot understand actual words. It understands inflection. It understands fear. But you can't actually explain issues to a dog."

but prefer--

Micheal Moores--with the liberals answer to everything they can't answer--the ole race baiting ploy--

"White America does not like having a black president. That's just the sad truth."

To understand the really incoherant mindset of a liberal--
O won with majority in 08 but got trounced in midterms.

So were people fed up with his agenda or did they as liberals suggest find out in last 2 years----hey! this guy is black-- :SIB

-moving on- we have an infamous one liner on topic from the narcissist himself.

When O was asked by his dem congress on backlash of healthcare reform and what happen in 1994. His answer was --
"Well, the big difference here and in '94 was you've got me."

interpretation--I'm Gumby Dammit!

Trench · Nov 16, 2010

One would think that a guy who spends half his waking hours arguing with liberals and moderates about politics would have a clue about politics and how elections work... but not Dogs.

Dogs, I doubt you've ever had an original thought about politics in your life.

The primary reason for the political shifts of 1994 and 2010 is that young voters don't vote for Congressmen/women. It's hard enough to get young voters out to vote in general elections, let alone mid-term elections. Young voters have to be inspired by a political candidate that they feel relates to their generation, like Jack Kennedy, Bill Clinton and Barrack Obama. Otherwise they don't vote. Period. There was no electoral shift to the Republican party on Nov. 2nd. As in 1994, there was only a lack of young voters who had come out two years earlier to support a candidate that had captured their imagination.

Here's my tip of the day for you Dogs... google "Angry White Man" and learn something. No need to thank me for helping you open that tiny little walnut you call a brain. :0008

DOGS THAT BARK · Nov 17, 2010

I know exactly how elections work--

If you can expand your base--you can get anyone elected--

Charles Rangel just convicted on 11 counts and just got relected with 81% of vote.

<DD style="TEXT-ALIGN: right" class="wp-caption-dd wp-cite-dd"><DD style="TEXT-ALIGN: left" class=wp-caption-dd>U.S. Rep. Charles Rangel (D., N.Y.) toasts with supporters as he celebrates his re-election at the Martin Luther King Jr. Democratic Club, Tuesday, in New York. (AP Photo/Jason DeCrow</DD></DL>

Now what may come as surprise to you--results was fine with me as it was the people in his district's choice.

Now I do have prob when they come with their hand in my pocket on federal level to bail them out.

I want seperation (states rights) where we each are responsible for our own conviction and feds can't make one side bail out the other.

Duff Miver · Nov 17, 2010

DOGS THAT BARK said:
I want seperation[sic] (states rights) where we each are responsible for our own conviction and feds can't make one side bail out the other.

Better break out your Rebel flag and grab your guns. The union will give you the same ass-whuppin' as last time.:142smilie

THE KOD · Nov 17, 2010

It coudnt have been any worse for Bohner if he had his picture taken with her with his tongue down her throat.

Holy shit..... Dude had to been drunk to take that picture with Pelosi .

:142smilie :142smilie

Duff Miver · Nov 17, 2010

Scott-Atlanta said:
It coudnt have been any worse for Bohner if he had his picture taken with her with his tongue down her throat.

:142smilie :142smilie

Boner has had his tongue worse places.

Trench · Nov 17, 2010

Scott-Atlanta said:

It's Frank Burns and Hot Lips Houlihan all over again... :142smilie

THE KOD · Nov 17, 2010

DOGS THAT BARK · Nov 17, 2010

DOGS THAT BARK said:
I know exactly how elections work--

If you can expand your base--you can get anyone elected--

Charles Rangel just convicted on 11 counts and just got relected with 81% of vote.

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<DD style="TEXT-ALIGN: right" class="wp-caption-dd wp-cite-dd"><DD style="TEXT-ALIGN: left" class=wp-caption-dd>U.S. Rep. Charles Rangel (D., N.Y.) toasts with supporters as he celebrates his re-election at the Martin Luther King Jr. Democratic Club, Tuesday, in New York. (AP Photo/Jason DeCrow</DD></DL>

Now what may come as surprise to you--results was fine with me as it was the people in his district's choice.

Now I do have prob when they come with their hand in my pocket on federal level to bail them out.

I want seperation (states rights) where we each are responsible for our own conviction and feds can't make one side bail out the other.

:0corn

--and a bit of trivia

who was only one to beat Obama in Illinois political race--Bobby Rush

Obama finally won his 1st political seat (after meeting rezco) when all opposition was somehow disqualified and he ended up with no opponent--seriously!

Here is Bobby Rush pic surrendering as black panther-and prior to winning congressional seat :SIB

Trench · Nov 17, 2010

DOGS THAT BARK said:
I know exactly how elections work--

Here ya go Dogs. This might help you understand the "Angry White Male" syndrome you suffer from. Again, there's no need to thank me for cracking that little walnut of yours... :0008

We're still haunted by Angry White Males

There's something about a Democratic White House and Congress that brings out this ugliness

By Steve Kornacki
AP

That race has featured prominently in the right?s campaign to derail the Obama presidency is indisputable.

Rush Limbaugh has warned that "Obama?s entire economic program is reparations" and that "in Obama?s America, the white kids now get beat up with the black kids cheering." Glenn Beck has notoriously claimed that the president has a "deep-seated hatred for white people or the white culture." And unconcealed bigotry has popped up at Tea Party events with alarming regularity.

Also indisputable is the gaping racial divide that has emerged when it comes to the public?s views of Obama. In his New York Times column this weekend, Charles Blow highlighted data from a recent Quinnipiac University poll that found 91 percent of blacks approve of Obama?s handling of the presidency, compared with just 37 percent of whites -- and that 87 percent of blacks would vote to reelect him in 2012, compared to a mere 28 percent of whites.

It?s tempting to connect poll results like this to the right?s race-based messaging and to wonder if America was really as ready for a black president as we liked to think it was back in 2008. So it?s probably worth remembering that a nearly identical divide also existed when the White House was occupied by a white Southerner who some called "Bubba."

When Bill Clinton came to office in 1993, he faced the same wall of reflexive Republican opposition that has bedeviled Obama. The GOP filibustered his stimulus plan to death, provided no help when he attacked the deficit (because his budget included tax hikes for the wealthy), and accused him of trying to engineer a government takeover of one-sixth of the economy with his healthcare reform plan. Sound at all familiar? Republicans also took every chance they could find to drive a wedge between Obama and working-class white voters -- gays in the military, Lani Guinier, a crime bill that included funding for inner-city midnight basketball programs, and so on.

It all produced, at this same point in Clinton?s presidency, a stark racial divide. In the 1994 midterm elections, when Republicans won control of the House and Senate, white voters favored the GOP by a 62 to 38 percent margin. Today, the spread is 50 to 31 percent, according to Quinnipiac?s most recent generic ballot test. Heading into the '94 midterms, Clinton?s approval rating with white male voters was around 20 percent -- and it measured in single digits in some deep South states. Hence, '94?s designation as the year of the Angry White Male.

Viewed in this context, the same basic ingredients that turned so many white voters against Clinton are at work with Obama. Remember that the first two years of Clinton?s presidency were the last time before now that a Democratic president enjoyed robust Democratic majorities in both congressional chambers. That concentration of power, combined with a still-shaky economy and Clinton?s advocacy of (some) culturally and economically progressive legislation, gave the right an opening to sow fear among whites of redistribution. Race was, obviously, a part of this (as the Guinier and midnight basketball examples showed), but the campaign was just as successful in 1994 with a white president as it has been in 2010 with a black president.

In a way, the Clinton example is a hopeful one for Obama, mainly because he rebounded after the '94 drubbing and easily won reelection in 1996. In that contest, he claimed 44 percent of the white vote (Bob Dole got 45 percent) and finished only 11 points behind Dole among white males (a 49 to 38 percent spread). By '96 voters were feeling better about the economy and the direction of the country than they had been in '94, which helps explain Clinton?s comeback. So if the same pattern holds in '12, it?s reasonable to assume that Obama?s standing with white voters will also improve and return to the levels he enjoyed in '08.

But it?s also a cautionary tale, given how radically Clinton transformed his governance as a result of '94. Aware of the damage they?d inflicted on him, he became eager to make substantive and symbolic gestures to redistribution-wary white voters. This was the Clinton who signed a welfare reform bill that his party?s base loathed, and who quietly ran ads on Christian radio stations boasting of his support for the Defense of Marriage Act. Granted, he was grappling with a Republican Congress, so compromise was necessary and sweeping progressive initiatives weren?t realistic, but the Clinton of '96 was a fundamentally different president than the Clinton of '94.

It?s possible that Clinton overcompensated -- that, thanks to the economy, he would have won back all of the white voters who deserted him and beaten Bob Dole just as handily without all of this. We?ll never know for sure. But Obama may soon face the same basic choice: to pare back the ambition of his presidency and pander, or to press ahead.

http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2010/08/02/obama_angry_white_males

DOGS THAT BARK · Nov 18, 2010

All in the Family--

WASHINGTON ? The Obama administration's former auto czar agreed Thursday to pay $6.2 million to settle civil charges over his role in an influence-peddling scandal involving New York state's public pension fund. :nooo:

The Securities and Exchange Commission announced the settlement with investment banker [COLOR=#366388 !important][FONT=arial,helvetica,clean,sans-serif][COLOR=#366388 !important][FONT=arial,helvetica,clean,sans-serif]Steven [/FONT][COLOR=#366388 !important][FONT=arial,helvetica,clean,sans-serif]Rattner[/FONT][/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR]. As part of the settlement, Rattner will also be barred for at least two years from working in the securities industies
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ImFeklhr · Nov 18, 2010

:director:

DOGS THAT BARK · Nov 18, 2010

Trench if anyone should be angry it should be you--

All those years Rev Wright was stirring up hatred cussing ole whitey and -GD America rants as the collection plate was passed-

-then retires to 1.6 million mansion in all white gated community--and spends the rest of his life doing the ole :mj07: about the grift ya all chomped on.

Have to hand it to him--that was some heavy duty sheep shearing--and appears the mentor schooled his pupil well.

Trench · Nov 18, 2010

DOGS THAT BARK said:
Trench if anyone should be angry it should be you--

All those years Rev Wright was stirring up hatred cussing ole whitey and -GD America rants as the collection plate was passed-

-then retires to 1.6 million mansion in all white gated community--and spends the rest of his life doing the ole :mj07: about the grift ya all chomped on.

Have to hand it to him--that was some heavy duty sheep shearing--and appears the mentor schooled his pupil well.

I love it. Dogs can't even stay on topic in his own thread... :142smilie

Dogs... the only difference between 1994 and 2010 is that in 94, guys like you were referred to as Angry White Males and now you're just... Tea-Baggers.

I think Tea-Baggers fits you better, so we've made some progress... :0074

Here's another little fact for you Dogs... in 2008, 23 million 18-29 year olds voted. In 2010, only 9 million 18-29 year olds voted. If the other 14 million had voted on Nov. 2nd, they would have cancelled the Tea-Bagger vote and the results would have been much different.

This is why the perceived shifts of the electorate to the Republican party in 1994 and 2010 are largely a myth.

When young voters don't vote, Republicans win because these guys always vote. It's the social event of their year...

DOGS THAT BARK · Nov 19, 2010

Young voters????

Do you really think everyones not aware of your base??

oh I forgot you got Micheal Moore syndrome

Your destined to continue on with your free bees for parasites and high taxes on productive-Hope and Change venture.
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Micheal Moores--with the liberals answer to everything they can't answer--the ole race baiting ploy--

"White America does not like having a black president. That's just the sad truth."

To understand the really incoherant mindset of a liberal--
O won with majority in 08 but got trounced in midterms.

So were people fed up with his agenda or did they as liberals suggest find out in last 2 years----hey! this guy is black-- :SIB

Trench · Nov 19, 2010

DOGS THAT BARK said:
Do you really think everyones not aware of your base??

--with the liberals answer to everything they can't answer--the ole race baiting ploy--

Classic Dogs. You bring race into this thread in post#1, post#9, post#13 and again in post#15.

Then you have the balls to accuse others of race baiting.

With a black President in office, you're incapable of discussing politics without bringing race into the discussion.

You're obsessed with race, Dogs. It consumes you and you can't even see it.

Trampled Underfoot · Nov 19, 2010

Trench Fickler said:
Classic Dogs. You bring race into this thread in post#1, post#9, post#13 and again in post#15.

Then you have the balls to accuse others of race baiting.

With a black President in office, you're incapable of discussing politics without bringing race into the discussion.

You're obsessed with race, Dogs. It consumes you and you can't even see it.

Its comical. Remember when he was called out by Cie? doggies response .... "who me?" :facepalm:

Lumi · Nov 19, 2010

Can I be an "Angry White Male" without being a Racist ?

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The more of you that I inspect
The more of me I see reflect
The more I try to read your lips
The more the mask you're wearing rips

But when I seek out your voice
My ears are overcome with noise
You show and tell with greatest ease
Raving impossibilities

Engaged in crime I grasp my throat
Enraged my mind starts to smoke
Enforce a mental overload
Angry again, angry again, angry ow

And when the story takes a twist
If folds like a contortionist
Slight of hand and quick exchange
The old tricks have been rearranged

Engaged in crime I grasp my throat
Enraged my mind starts to smoke
Enforce a mental overload
Angry again, angry again, angry

The searing of the sinew
My body fights for air
The ripping of the tissue
My lungs begin to tear
Gravity's got my bones
It pulls my flesh away

The steam finally dissipates
I make out my sweaty face

Association that I choose
Game I inevitably lose
Governed by laws set up by me
Fracture it's jaw to let me be
A cut-out cardboard condo maze
Filled with an insubordinate race
Irrational youths stop to stare
As music rubber hosed the air

Engaged in crime I grasp my throat
Enraged my mind starts to smoke
Enforce a mental overload
Angry again, angry again, angry again
And again and again, AGAIN

Engaged in crime I grasp my throat
Enraged my mind starts to smoke
Enforce a mental overload
Angry again, angry again, angry HAOW!

Lumi · Nov 19, 2010

DOGS THAT BARK · Nov 19, 2010

Trench Fickler said:
Classic Dogs. You bring race into this thread in post#1, post#9, post#13 and again in post#15.

Then you have the balls to accuse others of race baiting.

With a black President in office, you're incapable of discussing politics without bringing race into the discussion.

You're obsessed with race, Dogs. It consumes you and you can't even see it.

What consumes me is socialistic parasites "trying" to preaching to the productive.

--and political parties pandering to same--with hope/change redistribution of wealth theme.

--and its obvious who you are--

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Tramp-- you ain't been back to golf forum since they caught you cheating ,have you?--don't blame you-

--as your family would say/ how f----ing embarrasing:facepalm:

Maybe Muffins can take both of you to that flowershop he "eats at frequently" and console ya all. :kiss:

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