2001 thru British Open breakdown

[DOGS THAT BARK]

Had a little time to do some research with humidity making outdoors unbearable and found some suprising stats.

2000 thru B.O. 136-99 2001 213-190
Simply more outs more plays though judgement appears diminished with more selections available?
2001 odds/w-l breakdown on matchups only
+100 & under 61-43
-101 thru -110 62-56
-111 thru -120 62-70
over -120 17-9
props & totals ect 11-12
wins @ +120 or better (7) +240,+165,+150,+135,+135,+130,+122
Loss @ -120 or greater(9)-160,-130,-130,-125,-124,-123,-123,-122,-122

Most surprising to me was on -120 or greater.Always thought I lost most of those I ventured out on only to find really they have been profitable which confirms what Stan has been telling me for years that there is value in high lines.Most profitable would have been them and pups of +odds.

Will do a little more adjusting on matches from here on trying to play into the strength of #'s and away from the weak ones.

3ball combos are about thing of past as SB lines only competative matches of late.

Outrights:No sense to bust chops with mediocre results when I got the best there are to coat tail.Might throw in one occasionally.

Any comments on weak areas for improvement would be welcomed and appreciated.
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almost forgot:Would like opinions from the crew on this outright scenario.I play outrights @ Sportingbet on Euro and U.S tour despite there bad lines and only 4 places because of funds there that I do not wish to withdraw.Question:Considering their lines if one played $40 a week would he be better playing 4 different win tickets or 2 E/W?Might not be an answer but was curious and feel others may be also.



[This message has been edited by DOGS THAT BARK (edited 07-24-2001).]

 

[Stanley]

Pretty sure the results would be the same for me. Matchup plays have been pretty poor all season long. Props and outright plays have consistently bailed me out.

I think the problem is that we have added books with some pretty sharp golf line-makers: Surrey and Camelot especially. I must admit to having losing record at both: -44 units @ Surrey and -16 units @ Camelot. Show healthy profits at the old favorites of Five Dimes, WSEX and Sportfanatik. Surprisingly, I only break even @ Moneyplays.

With regard to whether or not to simply play win-only @ Sportingbet, I would say not. If you just want to play futures then you can find better prices for the PGA Tour @ Oly or Five Dimes or elsewhere. For the European Tour, I still think e/w betting is essential for long-term profits on the outrights, even if only four places. Of my 9 outright wins on the European Tour, only 2 have won outright (Cabrera 8/1 and O'Malley 40/1) and none have finished 5th. Just playing win-only, I would have +6.00 units on European Tour outrights instead of the +25.39 units record I have at the moment. Just my thoughts if you were to coat-tail my Euro outright plays.

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

Note taken on outright scenario Stan Thanks.
Never thought about the added books having sharper lines. Great point now that I think of it.Surrey was also my weakest link till you and Clive brought me back from the brink.
I remember ole days before your site became so popular it was like picken chickens now it is sort of 2 edge sword with books weighing in on stats also to aid in setting lines.3 books I can confirm but sure there are more.However makes the wins that much sweeter

 

[Cartman88]

Some interesting figures there DTB.

I would have to say that my results year to date have been similar to Stan where matchups have been fair and outrights have been profitable.

I think the key to making money on outrights is having enough books that you can find some extra value in the price. I have over 20 books but I nearly always find myself using the same 6 books for outrights because they are constantly offering better value.

NSW Tab
Centrebet
5 dimes
Sportingodds
Victor Chandler
Surrey

I generally do bet win only because most of these books are first 4 places, but I am happy to take the each way option when you can get 5 places.

I guess to answer your question about Sportingbet, I would personally bet 4 win bets rather than 2 each way bets when there are only 4 places. But it would become very frustrating taking 10-1 (when you can get 15-1 elsewhere) and 20-1 (when you can get 30-1 elsewhere).

I suppose the other side to this is that the price becomes irrelevant if they don't win ....

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

Thanks Cartman
Would be best not to play Sportingbet at all probably and withdrew all funds there at beginning of year with exception of funds from book that went under which they absorbed.Felt obligated to leave those and play them out.They also promised lines on the beards and bush along with paying 5 places which they have not followed thru on.