38 Million Watched Obama Speak

[djv]

Shep Smith fox said this while hoalding his breath. Went on to say Biggest TV audiance in year? Even higher then American Idol. I guess that was to be a joke. On PBS they said Super Bowl is only event in last 18 months to get as much attention. In Past if a convention drew 15 millon they were happy. But 38 million is just out of the park.

 

[THE KOD]

Well no Mitt R

It would have been McCains only real chance to win. He must have felt he would be shown up by Mitt and not look as Presidential . who knows.

But with this woman as his VP , its almost mutually assured destruction.

:scared

 

[DerrickTulips]

What can you take away from the speech? It wasnt one of his better ones. People will remember the huge crowd, the fireworks and the columns.. nothing from his speech was noteworthy.

 

[THE KOD]

August 29, 2008
How McCain chose Palin
Posted: 09:01 PM ET

From CNN's Dana Bash and Alexander Mooney


McCain only talked with Palin once before choosing her.\:scared


(CNN) ? John McCain first met Sarah Palin only six months ago and had just one conversation with the Alaska governor before offering her the vice presidential slot on the Republican ticket, the Arizona senator's campaign said Friday.

The move appears to be a marked departure for McCain ? a man known for his tendency to surround himself with a close circle of advisers and politicians he has long felt comfortable with.

But according to the McCain campaign, the presumptive Republican presidential nominee first met Palin in Washington at a February 2008 National Governors Association meeting. He was immediately impressed with the 44-year-old rising GOP star, and decided to consider her for the vice presidential slot.

McCain campaign manager Rick Davis had several conversations with Palin throughout the vetting process, but McCain himself didn't speak with the Alaska governor until last Sunday ? one day after Barack Obama named Joe Biden to his ticket. It was then McCain reached Palin by phone while she was at the Alaska State Fair to discuss the possibility of joining the ticket.

Palin then traveled to Flagstaff, Arizona Wednesday evening, where she met with top McCain advisers Steve Schmidt and Mark Salter. On Thursday Palin traveled to McCain's Sedona, Arizona home where the Arizona senator had another conversation with her, and formally asked her to be his running mate.

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wow.

just wow.

Is there any precendant to getting her to resign and putting Mitt up there at this late date ?

:shrug: :SIB

 

[THE KOD]

The McCain campaign has made little secret of the fact the selection of Palin ? the first woman to appear on a Republican presidential ticket ? was in part designed to court supporters of Clinton's White house bid, some of whom feel the New York senator was treated unfairly during the primaries because of her gender and remain wary of supporting Obama.

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The fact is that the woman that were going to vote for McCain because of Hillary still are.

He has their vote.

The VP choice is to go after states you dont have.
locked up and to help you win votes in other ways and means.

:SIB

Its historic I tell you.

 

[Senor Capper]

What can you take away from the speech? It wasnt one of his better ones. People will remember the huge crowd, the fireworks and the columns.. nothing from his speech was noteworthy.

got that right

 

[THE KOD]

What can you take away from the speech? It wasnt one of his better ones. People will remember the huge crowd, the fireworks and the columns.. nothing from his speech was noteworthy.

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I didnt think the speech was all that great. But who am I to tell at this early date.

I am already voting for him.

Change is coming down the lane and stomping out corruption and foolish spending of trillions of our American dollars.

Its a sad state of affairs.

 

[smurphy]

nothing from his speech was noteworthy.

Even staunch anti-Obama critics acknowledged how good the speech was and how big the moment was. But your right - nothing noteworthy for YOU out of the speech. There are a good 50+ million voters that will never like Obama no matter what he says or how well he performs if given the chance to be president. That's just the way it is.

 

[DerrickTulips]

Even staunch anti-Obama critics acknowledged how good the speech was and how big the moment was. But your right - nothing noteworthy for YOU out of the speech. There are a good 50+ million voters that will never like Obama no matter what he says or how well he performs if given the chance to be president. That's just the way it is.

I am moderate and could care less who wins honestly. I liked Hillary, also liked Romney.

I just didn't think the speech was that noteworthy..
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/k7z8vyNSFIRsSlKqIt

Dangerous going on MSNBC and saying anything negative about Obama..

 

[THE KOD]

"What is it exactly that the vice president does all day?" Palin offhandedly asked CNBC anchor Larry Kudlow in July. Kudlow explained that the job has become more important in recent years. Palin knows the energy crisis well, even if her claim on "Charlie Rose" that Alaska's untapped resources can significantly ease it is unsupported by the facts. But what does she know about Iranian nukes, health care or the future of entitlement programs? And that's just a few of the 20 or so national issues on which she will be expected to show basic competence. The McCain camp will have to either let her wing it based on a few briefing memos (highly risky) or prevent her from taking questions from reporters (a confession that she's unprepared). Either way, she's going to belly-flop at a time when McCain can least afford it.

Even on energy, Palin has her work cut out for her. First she has to convince McCain to do a 180 and support drilling in Alaska's Arctic National Wildlife Reserve. Her much-repeated sound bite that ANWR is only the size of the Los Angeles airport and thus not environmentally destructive sounds good, but won't do much to counter the argument Obama made in his acceptance speech, which is that drilling is only a "stopgap" measure for achieving energy independence. Palin will benefit from very low expectations in her debate with Joe Biden, but she's going to have to have a photographic memory for new information to avoid getting creamed.

Governors often run for president, but only after many months of prep work on what they might confront in the White House. The last governor chosen for vice president was Spiro Agnew in 1968, and he was the governor of Maryland, which is right over the line from Washington, D.C., not thousands of miles away. Veep candidates with extensive Washington experience like Geraldine Ferraro and Dan Quayle were nonetheless grilled on policy and proved a drag on the ticket when they looked unpresidential.

:scared :142smilie :0corn :scared

 

[DerrickTulips]

LMAO what does she know about Iranian Nukes.. Lets just ask Obama.. the same guy who thinks Iran is a tiny country who is harmless.. He will even sit down and negotiate with them.

 

[smurphy]

Lets just ask Obama.. the same guy who thinks Iran is a tiny country who is harmless..

Where do you come up with that?

 

[DerrickTulips]

Where do you come up with that?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhH2q6h7_Ow

 

[DerrickTulips]

And what we should be doing is reaching out aggressively to our allies, but also talking to our enemies and focusing on those areas where we do not accept their actions, whether it be terrorism or developing nuclear weapons, but also talking to Iran directly about the potential carrots that we can provide in terms of them being involved in the World Trade Organization, or beginning to look at the possibilities of diplomatic relations being normalized.

The president has to lead that diplomacy, which is why I?ve said I would convene a meeting of Muslim leaders upon taking office because I think we have to send a strong signal that we are willing to listen and not just talk, and certainly not just dictate or engage in military action.


:0corn Of course he backtracked from those naive comments..

 

[THE KOD]

LMAO what does she know about Iranian Nukes.. Lets just ask Obama.. the same guy who thinks Iran is a tiny country who is harmless.. He will even sit down and negotiate with them.

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you should get your brain in motion before you
let your twolips spew that garbage.

 

[THE KOD]

And what we should be doing is reaching out aggressively to our allies, but also talking to our enemies and focusing on those areas where we do not accept their actions, whether it be terrorism or developing nuclear weapons, but also talking to Iran directly about the potential carrots that we can provide in terms of them being involved in the World Trade Organization, or beginning to look at the possibilities of diplomatic relations being normalized.

The president has to lead that diplomacy, which is why I?ve said I would convene a meeting of Muslim leaders upon taking office because I think we have to send a strong signal that we are willing to listen and not just talk, and certainly not just dictate or engage in military action.


:0corn Of course he backtracked from those naive comments..

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And McCain just wants to nuke Iran with George W.

That should be fun

 

[DerrickTulips]

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you should get your brain in motion before you
let your twolips spew that garbage.

where was i wrong in those statements..
"Iran, Cuba, Venezuela, these countries are tiny compared to the Soviet Union. They don't pose a serious threat to us the way the Soviet Union posed a threat to us,? Obama said.

Obama?s rivals, including his fellow Democratic presidential contender Hillary Clinton, have criticized Obama for his willing to meet with Iran, a state sponsor of terrorism.

Those are direct quotes.. :0corn

 

[smurphy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhH2q6h7_Ow

So gullible. That ad is total bullshit...

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/context_included_obama_on_iran.html

McCain ad cherry-picks Obama remarks on Iran, twisting his meaning.
Summary
McCain's new ad, released on Day 3 of the Democratic National Convention, quotes Obama saying that Iran is a "tiny" country that "doesn't pose a serious threat." It implies that he fails to see Iran's threat to Israel.

The picture changes dramatically when Obama's full quotes are considered:
Obama actually said of Iran, Cuba and Venezuela: "These countries are tiny compared to the Soviet Union" (emphasis ours).

Likewise, he said those countries don't pose a serious threat to the United States "the way the Soviet Union posed a threat to us."

Obama has also said in speeches that Iran is Israel's greatest threat, and a serious threat to the region, and he has discussed its sponsorship of terrorism.
Analysis
John McCain's ad, "Tiny," was sent to reporters on the third day of the Democratic convention. The McCain campaign describes it as a "television ad" that "will air in key states." We'll add this caveat: Some recent ads ? at least one from each campaign ? have received far more play on YouTube and television news shows than they have as paid advertisements. That's a strategy that can save the campaigns boatloads of cash.

Missing Words

John McCain 2008 TV Ad: "Tiny"



Announcer: Iran. Radical Islamic government. Known sponsors of terrorism.

Developing nuclear capabilities to "generate power" but threatening to eliminate Israel.

Obama says Iran is a "tiny" country, "doesn't pose a serious threat".

Terrorism, destroying Israel, those aren't "serious threats"?

Obama ? dangerously unprepared to be president.

McCain: I'm John McCain and I approved this message.
The ad paints a dark picture of Iran as a sponsor of terrorism that is developing nuclear capabilities and wants to eliminate Israel. That's all fair enough, factually speaking.

Where it goes way out of bounds is in quoting Obama:
McCain ad: Obama says Iran is a "tiny" country, "doesn't pose a serious threat." Terrorism, destroying Israel, those aren't "serious threats"?
Here's what Obama actually said, in a speech in Oregon in May:
Obama, May 18: Strong countries and strong presidents talk to their adversaries. That's what Kennedy did with Khrushchev. That's what Reagan did with Gorbachev. That's what Nixon did with Mao. I mean think about it. Iran, Cuba, Venezuela ? these countries are tiny compared to the Soviet Union. They don't pose a serious threat to us the way the Soviet Union posed a threat to us. And yet we were willing to talk to the Soviet Union at the time when they were saying we're going to wipe you off the planet.
Obama didn't say Iran is tiny ? except in comparison to the once-huge Soviet Union. Iran's population is estimated to be about 72.2 million by the Population Reference Bureau. Iran's own statistics put it at 70,495,782 in 2006-2007. Either way, that's about one-fourth of the 270 million people estimated to be living in the U.S.S.R. in 1982, according to various sources.

Nor did he say Iran doesn't pose a serious threat, except in comparison to the former Soviet Union. And that's a fact. At the time the Berlin Wall came down in 1989, the Soviet Union had 12,117 strategic nuclear warheads, including 7,382 atop intercontinental ballistic missiles, according to a tally published by the Natural Resources Defense Council. Iran has zero nuclear warheads, and a National Intelligence Estimate completed last year concluded that Iran had stopped work in 2003 on a program to develop such weapons. Iran does continue to enrich uranium into material that might one day be made into a weapon, according to an International Atomic Energy Agency report issued last spring. And the NIE said Iran probably "at a minimum is keeping open the option to develop nuclear weapons." But that's a far cry from having thousands of nuclear weapons that could reach the United States in minutes.

The Israel Factor

The ad says Iran is "threatening to eliminate Israel" and implies that Obama fails to acknowledge the threat:
McCain ad: Terrorism, destroying Israel, those aren't "serious threats"? Obama ? dangerously unprepared to be president.
But on the contrary, when Obama spoke to the American Israel Public Affairs Committee in June, he told that pro-Israel audience that "there is no greater threat to Israel ? or to the peace and stability of the region ? than Iran." He also said this:
Obama, June 4: The Iranian regime supports violent extremists and challenges us across the region. It pursues a nuclear capability that could spark a dangerous arms race and raise the prospect of a transfer of nuclear know-how to terrorists. Its president denies the Holocaust and threatens to wipe Israel off the map. The danger from Iran is grave, it is real, and my goal will be to eliminate this threat.
We call a foul ball on this one. By separating Obama's words from their context, and from his other comments on the subject, McCain's ad distorts Obama's stated views on Iran.

 

[THE KOD]

where was i wrong in those statements..
"Iran, Cuba, Venezuela, these countries are tiny compared to the Soviet Union. They don't pose a serious threat to us the way the Soviet Union posed a threat to us,? Obama said.

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Its somewhat prophetic when you think about the problem we are having now with Russia and Georgia.

Doogy Duh.

 

[smurphy]

where was i wrong in those statements..
"Iran, Cuba, Venezuela, these countries are tiny compared to the Soviet Union. They don't pose a serious threat to us the way the Soviet Union posed a threat to us,? Obama said.

Obama?s rivals, including his fellow Democratic presidential contender Hillary Clinton, have criticized Obama for his willing to meet with Iran, a state sponsor of terrorism.

Those are direct quotes.. :0corn

And I absolutely agree that we should sit down with Iran. It's the only way to make progress. It's called DIPLOMACY - something we've totally forgotten the last 8 years.

...If this is something that riles you so much, how do you even remotely tolerate our relationship with Sudi Arabia?