4th TEST England vs. Australia

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Off back to back test matches of making a profit and looking to make it a hat-trick.

With the series set at 1-1, the next two Tests could produce some compelling cricket.

Never have I heard Australian cricketers come out with so much praise to an England side who have taken on the Aussie's at their own game of fast scoring rates and aggressive bowling. I believe the Australian's thought this was going to be easier than what it has been for them as they have been on the back foot for the last two test's.

Rain is likely on the first day, but not to much time should be lost. The next three days are for some better weather with un-interupted play expected.

There has been money all week for the draw plummeting the price as the followers of the weather get stuck in. Some where during this game the draw will be priced at +330 or higher, so my first recommendation isto lay the draw as I am sure we will be able to trade out of it sometime during the test (if we need to).

4th TEST

4 points Lay the Draw @ 2.7 (laying 6.8 points to win 4 points)

0.5 points E/W Ponting (top Australian bat .. both innings combinded) @ 8/1

0.5 points E/W Martyn (top Australian bat .. both innings combinded) @ 8/1
 

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Lunch on Day 1 and once again it's England who are in command of this Test Match :clap: . The Australian bowling looks weak and I've been saying it that when Australia don't have the services of McGrath and / or Warne they are good team but no champions.

It will become a major worry to Australia cricket if no one steps up to fill their boots :mj07: .

Tait is clearly not the answer, he may have taken 65 wickets in Pura cricket but in two games for Durham last season he took NIL wickets for over 200 runs if my memory serves me right.

For a world class outfit, the Australian bowlers have not produced, firstly, because they are predictable and apart from Warne and McGrath who are awesome bowling in tandem, the rest is much or a much (fodder). They cant reverse swing the bowl or traditionally swing the ball unless overhead conditions assist.

Adding a play;

England 1st innings runs OVER400.5 @ 5/6 x 6 units
 

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I have just noticed that I made a mistake with 2 prices. Ponting should have been 5/1 and not 8/1 as stated and Martyn was 7/1 and not 8/1 as quoted.

Sorry.


Update:

England continued their domination making 477 in their first innings. Australia came up short of the 278 they needed to avoid the possibility of being asked to bat again before England had to. England took up the offer of putting the Aussie's back into bat some 250+ runs behind. With 2 and 2/3 days left in this match England are in a very strong position.

We have made a comfortable 5 units already this game and I will resist laying off backing back the draw as there are certainly some fools out there on the betting exchanges who are prepared to bet the draw at around 3.8/1 when the true odds should be around 8/1.
 

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Another rewarding test match with 7 units of profit.

England won by 3 wickets, although panic set in chasing down a small total.


I will not be around for the fifth and final test so I will only be posting a play against Australia as I already recommended a play at the start of the series for it to end 2-2.

I have several recommendations still not resolved but it will have proved a profitable series whatever the outcomes, showing once again that it is easy to make a profit in cricket which I have done ever since I started posting here at madjacks.


Review of all recommendations with results (to date)


1 point Australia to win 2-1 @ 15/2 LOST -1.00

1 point Australia to win 3-1 @ 11/2 LOST -1.00

1 point Drawn series 2-2 @ 8/1 (pending)




1 point Michael Vaughan to be Top England Batsman @ 3/1 (pending)

1 point Ian Bell to be Top England Batsman @ 6/1 (pending)

0.5 points Adam Gilchrist to be Top Australia Batsman @ 8/1 (pending)




2 points Glenn McGrath to be Top Series Bowler @ 9/2 (pending)

1 point Glenn McGrath to be Top Australian Bowler @ 2/1 (pending)

1 point Shane Warne to be Top Series Bowler @ 4/1 (pending)

0.5 points Brett Lee to be Top Series Bowler @ 7/1 (pending)




2nd TEST

2 points McGrath to get more wickets than Warne at 2.00 VOID

2 points Harmison to get more wickets than Flintoff at 1.91 LOST -2.00

1 point England to win 2nd Test at 6.00 WON +5.00

0.5 points Harmison to be named man of the match @ 17.00 LOST -0.50


PROFIT FOR 2nd TEST = +2.5 points




3rd TEST

1 point S. Warne (Man of the Match) @ 9.00 LOST -1.00

2 points Warne to beat Giles (2 player match-up) @ 1.72 WON +1.44

1 point J. Langer (top Australian bat .. both innings combined) @ 5.50 LOST -1.00

1 point M. Clarke (top Australian bat .. both innings combined) @ 7.00 LOST -1.00

Laid AUSTRALIA (Tea Day 1) @ 2.98 Lay 9.9 units to win 5 units WON +5.00

Back Australia @ 7.4 @ 1.55 units LOST -1.55


PROFIT FOR 3rd TEST = +1.89 points




4th TEST

4 points Lay the Draw @ 2.7 (laying 6.8 points to win 4 points) WON +4.00

0.5 points E/W Ponting (top Australian bat .. both innings combined) @ 5/1 LOST -1.00

0.5 points E/W Martyn (top Australian bat .. both innings combined) @ 7/1 LOST -1.00

6 points England OVER 400.5 runs (in running) @ 5/6 WON +5.00


PROFIT FOR 4th TEST = +7.00 points



So if all the pending recommendations lose these threads on the Ashes Test Series will still have produced a profit of +1.39 units.

Looking quickly at what is outstanding, both Warne and lee have good chances as being the leading wicket taker in the series. Michael Vaughan to be Top England Batsman has an outside chance, and lets not forget the series result to end 2-2.

As I said at the top of this message, I will be opposing Australia in the 5th and final Test, so a win by the Aussies will still give me the correct series score (2-2) whilst a draw or a England win will result in profit from opposing Australia.


Good Luck to all here at madjacks.

I will not be around at MJ's as often as I have recently due to a ever increasing work load. But I am sure there's one member here at least that knows what that those new commitments are because they say they know so much about me.
 

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Bulldog,

Do the Aussies have a good shot at winning the fifth test? I am thinking about holding my "Draw" for the series wager. I read on a cricket website that the Aussies are not playing with a lot of heart. I am thinking they might be fired up for the fifth test to prevent an English win.

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A 2-2 will be a good return Bulldog. Though I reckon you wouldn't mind a win / draw in the last to return the Ashes to England after so many years in our hands!!!

I was surprised to see the books not react to McGrath's injury before this test and was happy to have a bite on the Poms @ $3.95!! Though I would have preferred to see the Aussies win and lose my dough.

I'm feeling pretty dirty about the 2 - 1 series scoreline. Sour grapes perhaps, but I can't help wondering what the score would be if the Aussies had just a little luck go our way :rant2: . Yeah the Poms have batted and bowled better than the Aussies over the course of the series but geez have we got the rough end of the pineapple on alot of these umpiring decisions!!! Seems we are getting no benefit of the doubt on LBW decisions. Throw in McGrath's unavailability in the 4th test along with England's unsportsman like use of the substitute fielder / resting of bowlers and you can understand Ricky Ponting's outburst when he left the field during our second innings.

The Poms are in the box-seat for the final test in a fortnight as they can play for the draw if need be. This Aussie team is in big trouble and will need to pull out something special to even the series. If we finally get some luck go our way and the players lift to somewhere near what they are capable of.....we can get a win.

If they don't......we may not let them back into the country!!!

Either way, I have to admit that Bulldog is right....this once mighty cricket team is in massive decline and I can't help but wonder where we will be in a few years time. :(
 

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Hi both Pawaqatsi and Inspades.

I will respond to both of you in this single message rather than submit two.


Inspades.

Depending on the amount you wagered on the series outcome, and if you followed my advice, you have lost on two already. Then you are better to take some profit than the chance of none at all.

Say you had played all three recommendations for $50 each. That's $150 staked with a possible $450 returned if Australia win the final test. A profit of $300.

From a personal stand point I am in the position to oppose Australia using betting exchanges which I am going to do. If you reside in North America, that option isn't really open to you so your course of action should be to wager on England to win and wager on the draw.

Your purpose in this is to limit your losses, although of course your profit would be decreased.

I will point out this though, England have a good record at the next venue (the Oval). Against Australia they have won 15 out of the last 33 matches played there between these countries with Australia winning just six and there being 12 draws.



Pawa,

Hi Buddy.

My take on the series is that there is very little between the teams. The first test was won by Australia through poor Batting by England and also the Poms dropping 7 catches.

The second test could have gone either way, yet England showed their inability to get the tail out cheaply. this has been an area of concern over the last few years.

The third test, the weather saved Australia as 71 overs were lost to the weather and England needed just one more wicket.

The fourth test was an empathetic win by England, although they did their best to throw it away. I don't know what it is about chasing small totals down in the last innings. Even the mighty Australians have struggled in recent times, losing a few tests in the process. England dominated nearly every session of play.

Only 18 months ago in the series down under, Australia needed 110 to win and were 91-7 before coming through. And let's not forget 1988 when Willis and Botham between them scuttled Australia all out for about 108 when they needed 123 to win.


I am in agreement with you that Australia have had some poor decisions against them. especially Martyn, but Warne has had a couple go his way when TV replays showed the batsman wasn't out. But the balance of poor umpiring has favoured England admittedly.

As for the substitution of fielders for bowlers, when Ponting was out, there was only one sub on the field for Simon Jones who was clearly injured as he did not participate in the remainder of the game and is a major doubt for the final test.

I have two points further on this matter.

1. Ponting should have been suspended for two games for the abuse and dissent is displayed and not just fined 75% of his match fee. Only recently Gangulay got a 2 games suspension for far less dissent.

2. All this bowlers getting substituted after bowling a spell was introduced into the game by none other Australia and then continued on by the West Indians. I remember, in the late 80's early 90's when Lillee finished his spell he would leave the field and sit in the hutch for 2 hours only to return fresh. And then Australia would substitute bowlers during the world cup in Australia (1987 i think the year was) with better standard of fielders giving them a real advantage in the limited over version of the game. That is why the law got changed saying a player may only leave the field due to injury or to freshen up, showered and clean kit. However, if his time exceeds 15 minutes away from the field, then he may not bowl again until he has been back on the field for the length of time he was away from it.

It is a tactic that is used by all Countries around the world and it is Ponting who is clutching at anything to divert the true problems that Australia are a aging team who are on the decline unless new blood is introduced. If Ponting doesn't like the fact that it goes on then he should address the whole of cricket and appologise for the tactics first used by his country men to seek an advantage and to say it should never have happened and that all results from those occasions that Australia have used it should be wiped from the record books and make a suggestion to all other captains that no one from now on bends the rules to gain an advantage. But that's not going to happen.

It has become part of the game for the last 27 years and will remain so until the ICC decide otherwise.

When was the last time that any Australian attack has been hit around the park for a series average of over 4 an over. And when McGrath was playing, England still went at over 4.3 an over in the third test.

Australia have it all to do to retain the ashes and they will come out fighting and show the tradition of Australian cricket of never going on the back foot (as the national emblem depicts). As for England, they will continue to attack, that is the nature of this team and that is what has got them this far in terms of world cricket in such a short time. They won't go out with the intention of playing not to lose, but events during the game may dictate otherwise.

The scoreline aside for one minute. This has been an excellent advertisement for cricket, and although it will be nice to win back the ashes, whatever the outcome, I've enjoyed every minute of it from both sides.
 
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