9/18/2004 9:00 PM Bernard Hopkins vs Oscar De La Hoya Fight Pick

[UT-Longhorn]

This is my Play of the Year

Hopkins 22.5 units to win 10 units

good luck

very few times do i move this much $$$ on a play/pick

 

[gardenweasel]

longhorn....where can you lay 22.5 and get a 20 return......you piqued my interest.....

thanks..

 

[damien4191]

unless you placed this bet early there's no way he could of gotten those kinds of odds.

 

[BOXLOCKS]

Olympic had Hopkins at -225 yesterday so I assume he meant laying 22.5 to win 10.

Line at Oly is back to -235 now

Pinnacle got down to around -218 but is back up to -239 now

 

[damien4191]

damn, 5dimes has Hopkins at +265

 

[UT-Longhorn]

my mistake, was in a hurry when i posted this, it should read:

22.5 units to win 10 units

And i had to place it at various places to risk this much..........

 

[gardenweasel]

i have some serious money(for me) on hopkins at -177.......

now that i`ve heard that dave moretti is involved in another vegas bout,it scares the hell out of me.....

oscar is arum`s boy and the house fighter in vegas.....moretti is one of the house judges...marc ratner should be ashamed of himself....

i`m getting a little uncomfortable.....to say the least...

i can envision a shitpot load of pitty-pat punches from oscar....the type of garbage that can be just enough justification for biased judges to give him rounds.....

i can see him trying to steal rounds in the last 30 seconds with b.s. flurries that may look cute but are basically window dressing....thanks to "the great"(lol) ali....the guy that did nothing for 2:45 of rounds then threw furious pitty pat flurries for 15 seconds and had idiot judges coming all over themselves.....


and i can see hopkins being a little to deliberate.....

i don`t like the way this thing is shaping up....

when i heard moretti was involved(the same moretti that gave oscar the 12th round vs sturm and gave brewster the 12th vs meehan)i started to worry.....

there are times when i hate betting boxing....all you want is a fair shake....

i`m really not in the mood to get screwed here...


was looking for a big score .......and i thought this was it...

i can get an "ass-covering" oscar by decision at 5 dimes for +360..... so i,in essence,lose half my winning bet on hopkins,when he wins....which i`m sure,all things being fair,he will...

this way i won`t get shtupped unless oscar manages to stop hopkins....and if that happens,i won`t be able to show my face anymore anyway,so wtf.....

oscar stopping hopkins.....whew....what a thought....my worst frickin` nightmare....

if that happens,it`s time to call the f.b.i....the c.i.a.....the moussad.....the k.g.b.....the gestapo....and maybe even Oprah......

lord.....

i`m getting cold feet...

damn.... i hate all this skullduggery...whatever happened to"may the best man win"?

 

[UT-Longhorn]

let me assure you Garden, i dont feel confident about 99.9% of my sports wagering picks like i do this one, i STRONGLY feel Hopkins will win this

 

[OverUnder]

Yeah,Im with Longhorn.....De La Hoya not as impressive as he used to be and HOPKINS is a Stud!
Hopkins by TKO round six.

 

[badjab]

GW...
I agree that the assignment of judges should be a cause for concern, but I really don't think that they will come into play. Matter of fact...if I thought that there was a better than 30% chance of this going to a decision I probably wouldn't have put so much on Hopkins.

At this weight class De La Hoya is not as elusive as he was as a lightweight. Moreover, at that weight he was the pursuer and had to chase guys around. Granted, he was far from prime condition in his last fight, but Oscar took a lot of shots -- and while I expect him to have a little more stamina, I don't think will change. Hopkins can put a beating on people when he wants to (poor Trinidad looked like one Tito's usual opponents).

I think around rounds 6 or 7 Oscar will fall

 

[gardenweasel]

jab....i hear ya`...you`re preachin` to the choir....i think i`m still shook from nate campbell giving away a fight and emanuel augustus having one taken away....

a quick look at the tale of the tape says something to me....

hopkins is a full 3" taller...if not a little more..

he has a 3" reach advantage....

he has a 12" fist compared to dlh`s 9" baby fist...and dlh`s size 8 foot...

he`s a bigger,thicker boned guy... and while you can make a case for oscar fighting the vargas`,quartey`s and the mosley`s,none of them are full fledged middleweights....robert allen and joppy are....there`s a limit to how high up the ladder even the very best can go vs the best in their natural weight class...

sturm illustrates this..and he`s not one of the very best.......and you can make the excuse that oscar wasn`t in shape among others....doesn`t matter...he struggled mightily vs the only full fledged middleweight he ever fought...

..winky vs mosely was another example.....arguello vs pryor...even all time greats like duran have trouble when they take one step up the ladder to many...


now he fights the best full fledged middleweight...

i read an article that stated that behind the scenes,roy jones begged don king not to let tito trinidad fight hopkins....he knew what would happen......

unless something strange happens,it`s gotta be bernard...and i don`t think that it`s totally far fetched that he makes oscar quit....

and let me add...it doesn`t matter if dlh gets blown out...just the fact that he is willing to go all the way up to middleweight to fight the best middleweight in the last 10 years(roy outgrew the class),is enough for me....he has been willing to fight everybody....stepping up in weight as he goes....winning as he goes...

silver spoon or not,dlh deserves everybody`s respect and thanks,,,,he`s been the main pulse of boxing for quite awhile...

he`s the one selling these tickets....not hopkins....

he`s the reason why,once the dlh fan club hits vegas friday,we should see these odds nosedive a bit....

 

[UT-Longhorn]

add 10 more units on Hopkins

gl

 

[UT-Longhorn]

+20 units tonite

 

[CryBoy]

Nice call!