A foul, is a foul, is a foul....It's all foul.

[LuvThemDogs]

Is there anyone on the planet who watched this, besides every sportscaster on ESPN, that saw this as a foul? It's not a blocked shot when you get no ball and all arm. It's called a foul, except of course when you're the most protected player on the planet. That was a game changer and a huge momentum builder. Get a clue for Christ's sakes.

I hope the Rockets or Warriors bury his ass. Everyone making him out to be the greatest player ever because he willed his team to victory against a team without its two best players and a bunch of rookies. Big fucking deal....Let me know when he wills a bunch of nobodies to 6 NBA titles.

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[Pound4Pound#1]

What? That was all ball :mj07: I would have sworn it was watching in the rowdy east coast bar I was in last night. Didn?t notice it until now, you exposed it and I haven?t heard one person mention this.

Boston had plenty of momentum moments to win this game going away. They should have just kept feeding Horfird under the basket Cavs had zero answers for him. They made young team mistakes down the stretch to seal their fate. But make no mistake it?s a big time learning experience. With the players they will get back next year and upcoming draft picks I don?t see anybody beating them in the east. If Lebrun were to stay he would need WAY more help.

Not sure how old you are but how do you know mike played with a bunch of nobodies? Did you watch..highlights...or something you heard..I followed MJs entire career, didn?t see every game but followed day by day until he was done. just wondering because you are 100% correct.

Thanks for posting the video. I honestly did not realize this foul last night. Now I know

Ps: biggest farse in NBA history...Can you guess? That?s right Scottie Pippen is in the top 50 list of greatest NBA players of all time

 

[Crookity]

Is there anyone on the planet who watched this, besides every sportscaster on ESPN, that saw this as a foul? It's not a blocked shot when you get no ball and all arm. It's called a foul, except of course when you're the most protected player on the planet. That was a game changer and a huge momentum builder. Get a clue for Christ's sakes.

I hope the Rockets or Warriors bury his ass. Everyone making him out to be the greatest player ever because he willed his team to victory against a team without its two best players and a bunch of rookies. Big fucking deal....Let me know when he wills a bunch of nobodies to 6 NBA titles.

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LOL after all that he has accomplished, taking this garbage Cavs team to the Finals your still hating on Lebron :shrug: You LBJ haters will never give it up:facepalm:

 

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What? That was all ball :mj07: I would have sworn it was watching in the rowdy east coast bar I was in last night. Didn?t notice it until now, you exposed it and I haven?t heard one person mention this.

Boston had plenty of momentum moments to win this game going away. They should have just kept feeding Horfird under the basket Cavs had zero answers for him. They made young team mistakes down the stretch to seal their fate. But make no mistake it?s a big time learning experience. With the players they will get back next year and upcoming draft picks I don?t see anybody beating them in the east. If Lebrun were to stay he would need WAY more help.

Not sure how old you are but how do you know mike played with a bunch of nobodies? Did you watch..highlights...or something you heard..I followed MJs entire career, didn?t see every game but followed day by day until he was done. just wondering because you are 100% correct.

Thanks for posting the video. I honestly did not realize this foul last night. Now I know

Ps: biggest farse in NBA history...Can you guess? That?s right Scottie Pippen is in the top 50 list of greatest NBA players of all time

I am 57 and watched Jordon for years struggle until he got help. In my opinion his game changed when a little guard from Iowa B J Armstrong took over and allowed Jordon to be a true two guard. Pippen, and Rodman and another really good rebounder played on that team which took them over the top. Julius Irving struggled just like Jordan did in his early days of hogging the ball and shooting a low percentage. But in all fairness Jordan played when the NBA allowed you to guard someone and foul hard. Today's NBA is a bunch of spoiled over paid athletes who i have little respect for. I used to party with the Lakers players and for years guys like Jeff Lamb and Bill Smerick the 7'white back up center for Jabbar were getting paid 80,000-150,000 as the 10th, and 11th players on the bench. Now the bench players with no degrees because 70% of them are one and done and don't go to class make 1,000,000 at least. You cannot compare today's players with players from 10 years ago and older. Bill Laimbeer's fouls back in the day would of had James picking himself off the floor the first time he went to the rim. Back then it wasn't if he was going to get fouled it was how hard. You didn't go to the rim like they do today. Like the NFL and it's new flag football no touch rules on wide receivers, the leagues are not near as fun to watch in the 2000's like it was back in the 70's, 80's and 90's. Baseball is still my #1, but with the changes now they are even trying to screw that up. To me college baseball is the only true sport where it's not screwed up and being disgraced from cheating and recruiting scandals and paid off inside people. Again this is my opinion and many of you younger guys will not agree because you are not old enough to remember Jack Tatum taking your head off when you came over the middle or when defensive lineman used to take the quarterbacks head off. Back then football was still a contact sport.

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[Bombs]

Is there anyone on the planet who watched this, besides every sportscaster on ESPN, that saw this as a foul? It's not a blocked shot when you get no ball and all arm. It's called a foul, except of course when you're the most protected player on the planet. That was a game changer and a huge momentum builder. Get a clue for Christ's sakes.

I hope the Rockets or Warriors bury his ass. Everyone making him out to be the greatest player ever because he willed his team to victory against a team without its two best players and a bunch of rookies. Big fucking deal....Let me know when he wills a bunch of nobodies to 6 NBA titles.

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That is maybe a foul with the body, but its not a foul up top. He blocks the ball cleanly. That's not being called a foul on Lebron or most stars in the NBA, never mind the others can't make that play.

I don't understand why people are so biased and attached to Jordan. I understand nostalgia, but making statements referencing "willing a bunch of nobodies to 6 NBA titles" is flat out ridiculous. Those teams were deep and loaded. And Jordan got more calls than anyone in the NBA - tons of help.

It's not a winnable argument on either side, they are both great players in different eras.

 

[LuvThemDogs]

That is maybe a foul with the body, but its not a foul up top. He blocks the ball cleanly. That's not being called a foul on Lebron or most stars in the NBA, never mind the others can't make that play.

I don't understand why people are so biased and attached to Jordan. I understand nostalgia, but making statements referencing "willing a bunch of nobodies to 6 NBA titles" is flat out ridiculous. Those teams were deep and loaded. And Jordan got more calls than anyone in the NBA - tons of help.

It's not a winnable argument on either side, they are both great players in different eras.

Let me try and slow this down for you since you clearly had trouble seeing what was obvious in the replay. See, a foul is committed when player A hits player B anywhere on the body during a shot on the basket. Not only does he hit him in the lower body, and with his left arm, he also clearly gets all arm on the shot with his right arm. I suggest try watching it again.

 

[Ramjet7]

That is maybe a foul with the body, but its not a foul up top. He blocks the ball cleanly. That's not being called a foul on Lebron or most stars in the NBA, never mind the others can't make that play.

I don't understand why people are so biased and attached to Jordan. I understand nostalgia, but making statements referencing "willing a bunch of nobodies to 6 NBA titles" is flat out ridiculous. Those teams were deep and loaded. And Jordan got more calls than anyone in the NBA - tons of help.

It's not a winnable argument on either side, they are both great players in different eras.

Ur dead on about it not being called on LeBron or any nba star for sure but if LeBron is on offence on that play then its a foul 100% of the time.

 

[Bombs]

Let me try and slow this down for you since you clearly had trouble seeing what was obvious in the replay. See, a foul is committed when player A hits player B anywhere on the body during a shot on the basket. Not only does he hit him in the lower body, and with his left arm, he also clearly gets all arm on the shot with his right arm. I suggest try watching it again.

he hits the ball first. he is vertical. he doesnt use his left arm. its a tough call and an amazing athletic play. its not called a foul on lebron or any other star that can pull that off.

 

[LuvThemDogs]

he hits the ball first. he is vertical. he doesnt use his left arm. its a tough call and an amazing athletic play. its not called a foul on lebron or any other star that can pull that off.

It's a foul on anyone else but Lebron. Every time Harden drives to the basket and is touched by a defender, including Klay Thompson, Durant or just about anyone else, it's a foul. Rozier literally had his arm broken by Lebron's arm and there was no call. Just because Lebron grazes the ball with his hand as he's hammering Rozier, doesn't mean it's a clean block. It's not even close. And it was a momentum changer.

 

[Bombs]

It's a foul on anyone else but Lebron. Every time Harden drives to the basket and is touched by a defender, including Klay Thompson, Durant or just about anyone else, it's a foul. Rozier literally had his arm broken by Lebron's arm and there was no call. Just because Lebron grazes the ball with his hand as he's hammering Rozier, doesn't mean it's a clean block. It's not even close. And it was a momentum changer.

i literally have no idea how you can have this analysis of the play. he blocks the ball. there is minimal hand contract on the follow through, which is not a foul. the only argument for a foul here is the body. there can be contact on a shot if you are straight up which he is.

i also have no idea what james harden has to do with this play.

lebron gets grabbed and fouled more than anyone in the nba. he's impossible to officiate and often gets the short end of it. i get that you hate him, but it is what it is. he's a massive load, incredibly difficult to guard, and everyone has to grab him to even have a chance of slowing him down.

 

[Bombs]

It's a foul on anyone else but Lebron. Every time Harden drives to the basket and is touched by a defender, including Klay Thompson, Durant or just about anyone else, it's a foul. Rozier literally had his arm broken by Lebron's arm and there was no call. Just because Lebron grazes the ball with his hand as he's hammering Rozier, doesn't mean it's a clean block. It's not even close. And it was a momentum changer.

arm broken lmao. come on man. he cocks back for some super aggressive tomahawk and gets it straight stuffed.

lebron is only good because of the refs though, i get it.

 

[LuvThemDogs]

arm broken lmao. come on man. he cocks back for some super aggressive tomahawk and gets it straight stuffed.

lebron is only good because of the refs though, i get it.

You can see it however you like. I've played the game for many years. THAT WAS A FOUL. PERIOD! He barely nipped the ball and got Rozier's entire arm. Hard. And if you don't think Lebron can break a man's arm with his roided up hammer arms, you're nuts. Anyone else in the league gets a foul called there and it's not even a question. Lower body contact, upper arm contact, on a shot, it's called all day. You think because he barely ticks the ball, that allows him to get full contact on the offensive player. You definitely haven't played the game. My photo shows it's an obvious foul. See it with your rose colored glasses if you want.

 

[Bombs]

You can see it however you like. I've played the game for many years. THAT WAS A FOUL. PERIOD! He barely nipped the ball and got Rozier's entire arm. Hard. And if you don't think Lebron can break a man's arm with his roided up hammer arms, you're nuts. Anyone else in the league gets a foul called there and it's not even a question. Lower body contact, upper arm contact, on a shot, it's called all day. You think because he barely ticks the ball, that allows him to get full contact on the offensive player. You definitely haven't played the game.

1. You have no idea if I have or have not played the game (I have). That's also irrelevant.

2. I'm nuts but you are talking about breaking a guy's arm on that block.

3. There is no full contact. He hits the ball. Rozier is swinging his arm going for some smash down and then there is contact after the ball is deflected. It's a tough call. LeBron is getting this call a decent amount of the time. That's the NBA.

4. How were the Warriors officiated tonight? Did they get any calls?

 

[LuvThemDogs]

1. You have no idea if I have or have not played the game (I have). That's also irrelevant.

2. I'm nuts but you are talking about breaking a guy's arm on that block.

3. There is no full contact. He hits the ball. Rozier is swinging his arm going for some smash down and then there is contact after the ball is deflected. It's a tough call. LeBron is getting this call a decent amount of the time. That's the NBA.

4. How were the Warriors officiated tonight? Did they get any calls?

1. And done. The photo shows full contact on Rozier and it's really silly to argue with someone who refuses to see it.

 

[bleedingpurple]

I don?t know the rules but I thought once you hit the ball first you could touch is hand / arm on follow through, I do believe if that?s LeBron on offense a foul is called, but you can make the argument that he got a 3 pt play taken away earlier he was called for an elbow going up and it?s clear the Celts player wasn?t in position and was moving into LeBron. I still hope gsw kicks his ass just because of how he left Cleveland years ago.

I?ll take Jordan over LeBron I think the defenses were much tougher back then. There were more big time defensive players and several teams had big time centers that Jordan would penetrate the basket, maybe LeBron would have done the same.

Are we alll betting the celts to win the east next year?

 

[Pound4Pound#1]

I don?t know the rules but I thought once you hit the ball first you could touch is hand / arm on follow through, I do believe if that?s LeBron on offense a foul is called, but you can make the argument that he got a 3 pt play taken away earlier he was called for an elbow going up and it?s clear the Celts player wasn?t in position and was moving into LeBron. I still hope gsw kicks his ass just because of how he left Cleveland years ago.

I?ll take Jordan over LeBron I think the defenses were much tougher back then. There were more big time defensive players and several teams had big time centers that Jordan would penetrate the basket, maybe LeBron would have done the same.

Are we alll betting the celts to win the east next year?

simple answer...no

 

[Pound4Pound#1]

simple answer...no

I should say it depends. If Lebrons in the east they have problems. I think he?s going to make 10 straight finals appearances

 

[bleedingpurple]

I should say it depends. If Lebrons in the east they have problems. I think he?s going to make 10 straight finals appearances

I can?t see him beating the Celts with those 2 players back but who is to say they won?t get injured again

 

[LuvThemDogs]

I should say it depends. If Lebrons in the east they have problems. I think he?s going to make 10 straight finals appearances

Lebron is going to go to whatever team has budding or established talent that's projected to be the best in the NBA in the next year or two. Somewhere like Philly or maybe even Houston or Utah. JMO....

 

[Pound4Pound#1]

I can?t see him beating the Celts with those 2 players back but who is to say they won?t get injured again

Yeah if those two come back and are healthy James would need to make an addition for sure