All these little suped-up japanese cars...

[Stuman]

really get on my last foking nerve! Why oh why do all these wannabe little punks feel the need to put a different muffler on their little Honda and then put some big gay ass aluminum spoiler on the back? :shrug: (About 10 percent of the little punks actually paint it to match :nooo: ) That fat little pipe on your car makes it sound like exactly what it is...a little four-cylinder with no exhaust!

Yea, I know there is the EXTREMELY rare exception where someone actually fixes up one right and spends about 10-15K on the engine (only to barely run a sub-13 quarter) but they are still obnoxiously loud and annoying. I think this mainly bugs me because the drivers of these little POS's are all the same: About 18-20 years old, trying to dress/act black, and they all wear their hats backwards while driving. (In this area at least) I think all of this got blown way out of proportion when that "Fast and Furious" movie came out. Now everyone thinks their import is fast. And I understand there is a part 2 of this movie coming out soon...GOD HELP US ALL. :thefinger

NEWSFLASH................................................................................
An obnoxious muffler and oversize throttle-body doesn't make your little import fast! And one of those big gay ass wings doesn't give you any better traction when your driving 75 in a 40 either! If your accord had a strong enough motor to be fast, you would twist that little uni-body frame completely out of shape. Put your money in a piggy bank and buy something worthy of fixing up, especially if your goal is to build a fast ride.

Am I the only one that feels this way? Sorry if I offended any MJ'ers, but please don't act like every other punk that has one of these rediculous imports!

Stuman

 

[djv]

Can drive you nuts.. But I was a kid thru the hot rod days of late 50's early 60's. Well kind of kid. Now were talking about great sounds and fast. And most right from the factory. I have a pal that builds kit cars and his own race car for out at our 5/8 mile short track. If you ever watch ASA raceing. They come here for the October Fest races. Hell of a event over 3 days. Anyway my Montie he played with it alittle. It's got some real nice low end kick. I just love it when one of these so called bottle rockets pull up along side at a stop sign. Like you say hats on backward talking the trash. I just leave them bout 15 feet back. Laugh my ass off when I slow down and they go by giveing me the number one sign. Soon my wife will be pissed when her 61 year old husband gets ticket for 100 bucks. But I figure cops going to nail the low rider. Some how they get the police attention. I hope. What me officer!

 

[DR STRANGELOVE]

LMAO

Stuman,

You are referring to "RICE", the term we use to describe such cars. You wouldn't believe how many times a Honda or any other import will come up beside me and ask to race.....my response " Let's race for $$$", 9 out of 10 times they'll just take off.


Most of them are high school drop outs

 

[Stuman]

:clap:

Good to see I'm not the only one!

Stuman

 

[DR STRANGELOVE]

oh trust me, in Toronto it is full of RICE...

actually, there is one guy up here that owns the fastest HONDA in North AMerica, mind you it is not street legal and he only drives it when he's at the track. He spent over $90,000 CDN, IMHO with $90,000 I would rather buy a CORVETTE Z06 and still have about $5,000 remaining for other modifications.

$90,000 spent on a honda = what a joke

:nono:

 

[Stuman]

Stuman,

You are referring to "RICE", the term we use to describe such cars.

Dr,
Funny how people refer to these as "rice" or "rice-burners". What percentage of these pukes are actually filling up their gas tanks with rice-alcohol at $3+ USD per gallon? :shrug:

I totally agree with you on the 'vette. Actually, I have seen blower kits for stock 'vettes in magazines that tout 700+ HP once installed. And the kit only costs about $7000 USD if I remember correctly.

Modified 4 cyl. Honda = 200 HP, maybe....

Stuman

 

[taoist]

Anthony,

Stuman was my college roommate that I was telling you about that used to pull the "$20 on the dash" gag while we were in school.... Between the two of you, there's more automotive knowledge than in the fuking autozone down the street.... LOL


...too bad none of that automotive knowledge rubbed off on me while I was in college.... otherwise I might have saved myself a ton of money on my truck's last trip to the shop....

 

[Bluemound Freak]

Hey..........I am a Mekanek!

 

[Terryray]

well, in old days lots of punk kid HS dropouts put fake wings and scoops on their 'Stangs and 442 also. "Glass packs dude!" Nothing new here.


Saw one car-mod meet with Fathers and Sons section. Dads had the soupped up Trans-Ams, etc, from the 60s and kids had the equally soupped up jap stuff. The ricers ran rings around them! HP/Weight ratio plays big here...



A fellow I met other day has real modern sleeper, BMW M5. Looks like any normal BMW, but will run circles around a Z06. the Corvette is slower 0-60, slower at 1/4, worse in slalom, and gets pulled over by cops heck of a lot more!

 

[marine]

YEsterday afternoon I got the laugh of the week...

There is a little blue accord or celica or something that races up and down the 25 mph zone here... fancy blue paint job, big huge monstrous whale tale on the back of it and all the chrome trim and jazz on the outside...

Well, it was parked on the street yesterday so I stopped to take a look at it. In the back I noticed a pair of dual exhaust tips under the rear bumper... finding this discovery I said to myself,
"Damn, must have dropped a new engine in there and really pumped it up"

So I bent down and took a look at the exhaust tips.

ONE, ONE ONE ONE ONE of them was connected to a muffler.. the other three were simply the chrome tips tacked onto the bottom of the bumper.

 

[DR STRANGELOVE]

A fellow I met other day has real modern sleeper, BMW M5. Looks like any normal BMW, but will run circles around a Z06. the Corvette is slower 0-60, slower at 1/4, worse in slalom, and gets pulled over by cops heck of a lot more!

Terry,

sorry bud but I disagree with you here, granted the BMW M5 is a NICE car, assuming you have two driver's of the same capability...
the ZO6 would run a quicker time in the 1/4 mile and a faster
0-60. Those magazines (Car and Driver etc etc) are pure BS as they stated back in 1996 when i bought my car that a 96 Trans Am would do 14.6 in the 1/4 mile and when i went out to the track for the very first time (car was stock) with my car I pulled a 14.2@100mph

I have driven both vehicles and they are both great cars, but in terms of fun factor the vette wins hands down. There is nothing like having good old V8 Torque when smashing the gas pedal. I will give the M5 a slight advantage in terms of handling, though the vette handles exceptionally well....


I have seen many times a stock Z06 at the drag strip pull low 12s in the 1/4 mile, add a set of slick drag radials and high 11s are possible.

$ for $ nothing comes close to the Z06 in terms of performance unless one does what I did...

here is a list of the modifications I have done to my car
(all prices in canadian $).....

96 Trans Am $36,000
3:73 gear ratio set ($400)
Drag radials ($500)
Ported Heads ($900)
Ported Intake ($300)
58 mm Throttle Body ($250)
Aggressive cam ($250)
Racing Transmission ($2700)
12 Bolt rear end ($2100)
Modified Computer ($500)
Borla Exhaust stainless Steel ($1400)
3 inch Long Tube Headers ($1000)
7-8 pound Supercharger ($7000)
100 Horsepower NOS system ($1500)
Racing suspension ($2700)
My knuckles bleeding and endless bruises from doing all the work (free)

So as you can see I have spent roughly around $21,500.00 in modifications to my car and it will blow 99% of all cars driven on the street daily. My best time so far is around mid to low 10s in the 1/4 mile and it handles like nails on rails.


The look of Ferrari, Porsche, Viper, and Lamborghini owners faces after getting their doors blown off (PRICELESS)


By the way, the best time I have seen a M5 run the 1/4 mile is 12.8







If I had the choice to select any car out there now it would easily be a Silver Mercedes SL 55 AMG, lowered with 5 star Chrome Fiske rims...

:hail :hail

 

[DR STRANGELOVE]

Between the two of you, there's more automotive knowledge than in the fuking autozone down the street.... LOL

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[Terryray]

wow! some mods!

wow! some mods!

I just wrote the stuff the BMW fellow told me, he seemed to know alot about it, and liked racing those fellows in the Z06 tho maybe it is the driver....


That's alot you've done to the Trans-am. You put on the new rear end and cam yerself!? I can imagine the bruised knuckles.



Sure is nothing like a V8. It's a nice one that M5 has. Tho smashing on an old carb big block V8 with no computer is still another experience. Feels like raw power at will. As a kid I remember the guys into cars took boneyard Cadillac 500 CI V8, bolted them into the Novas, etc and blew the doors stoplight to stoplight off those yokels who spent thousands soupping up their beloved 350s---which could barely idle and my freinds Nova ran as smooth as, well, a Cadillac. He hated paying over $200 for one of those engines.


I sound like an Old Fart!

 

[DR STRANGELOVE]

Re: wow! some mods!

Re: wow! some mods!

Cadillac 500 CI V8, bolted them into the Novas, etc and blew the doors stoplight to stoplight off those yokels who spent thousands soupping up their beloved 350s---which could barely idle and my freinds Nova ran as smooth as, well, a Cadillac. He hated paying over $200 for one of those engines.

Now that is an engine...

The individual who mentioned this to you is either
1. lying
2. his M5 is modified
or
3. he raced against someone who doesn't know how to shift...

My friend, you lived through the best years, I just saw a 1969 Camaro with 44 miles on it, sold at an auction for $450,000 US

WOW

 

[DR STRANGELOVE]

Re: wow! some mods!

Re: wow! some mods!

That's alot you've done to the Trans-am. You put on the new rear end and cam yerself!? I can imagine the bruised knuckles.

I am a car fanatic, you think I am going to pay a mechanic (nothing against them) $75 an hour for labor?

:nono:


Oh no, I see Chrryblstr asking me to pull out his BMW engine now....

 

[Stuman]

My best time so far is around mid to low 10s in the 1/4 mile

Dr I am very impressed with that 1/4 time! That is one hellava fast time for any street legal ride. Question - do you have sub-frame connecters installed to stiffen up the frame and stop the body flex? That kind of HP can literally shake a stock body to pieces. And the Firebird/Camaro body isn't exactly known for its stellar strength. My old neighbor had a fairly modern camaro and he switched out the motor and trans to a modified 400 SB. It had an automatic racing trans that shifted so hard the dome light would flicker. This was because there was so much flex in the doors that the switch in the door jam would engage momentarily when it shifted. One day at the track his tires hooked up unusally well and it resulted in a warped body/frame. Never rode the same afterwards. Do you have any pictures you could post of your sweet ride?

Stuman

 

[DR STRANGELOVE]

Stuman,

I have the following suspension mods:

all components are aftermarket...

All around polyurethane suspension bushings,
MAC subframe connectors (welded), Edelbrocke Lower control arms, SMR panhard rod, HOTCHKIS engine brace, Eibach drag springs, racing shocks (Bilstein's), and a BMR Torque Arm,

when i hit the track and slap on the drag radials, drop the tire pressure to 18 pounds, the car hooks up like a bitch (no wheelspin at all).

I will have some pictures posted from this years local club events...

I know there are a couple on the net, will post them later tonight.

 

[djv]

Dont remind me what a 69 camaro goes for. And forget the 55,57 chevs to. I have cried enough in this forum about those cars. My 70 ss 454 I have ahunch would hang with most today. The Z06 I got to drive over at Muston Wi. My very good fiend has a dealer ship there sells Chevs, Pontchos, and Buicks. That car is smooth and fast. What a buy when most others in that class are 20 to 30 to grand more. The one thing about being a kid late 50's early 60's was what we had to drive.

 

[DR STRANGELOVE]

DJV,

you don't understand

if you still had that 70 SS 454, I would come all the way out there just to sit in it and hear that engine purr, very nice car indeed

again, SHAME ON YOU

 

[GENO]

"If your accord had a strong enough motor to be fast, you would twist that little uni-body frame completely out of shape"

AIN'T IT THE TRUTH!"

reminds me of a ride in a 76 Camaro with an LS-6 and juice. When Dick (my friend) hit the nitrous and shoved his foot on the accelerator did a twist resembling Chubby Checker, although the dome light didn't come on (Unreal but very believabe) you could actually hear the body creak about the sound of the engine!

I agree with almost all of the above about Rice but I also remember my days of youth and the complaints I got when I uncapped my headers even out in the country to street race.

I never was big time but I had an easier time of it back in the late 60's and early 70's and trust me I didn't have $210 in my 12 bolt Anthony. Your T/A sounds like a real blast! I would have loved to bust the traps with those times!

DJV that was my second favorite year Chevelle, I had a 68 SS396 that I transplanted a 71 LS-5 into then proceeded to hop it up with various speed parts, carb, manifold, ignition, tranny shift kit, Kustom headers, 4.10 R&P etc .

Being from that era and working in the chevy stores that I have I have a ton of fond memories.

A ride in a Motion Camaro in 1975, the Camaro mentioned above, a strip only 68 Dart with a 426 wedge, an amazing 1965 Impala SS 396/425HP with a 950 Holley three barrel under the hood ( When Ernie jabbed the gas pedal on that thing the front tires didn't need any air in them and the stock price of all the oil companies went up a dollar a share ) Seriously I don't know what else he had done to it but it had a kick that was unreal and a very rare low populaton car with that engine in it. I often wonder what happened to it? Another friend had a 65 MalibuSS that ws not pretty but very fast with a sweet 327. One deputy in the county had a SS409 another had a 70 Monte Carlo SS454 ( super rare now I would guess) Another friend had a 57 Pontiac Safari Wagon and another local farmboy my age had a Dodge Super Bee with the lift off Glass hood covering a 440 Six Pack and the big wing on the back.

I could probably write a book but I will shut up