American Idol 2!

[Loverboy]

Anyone watch this bulldooky stuff?

I have gone around asked all the young people that I know and everyone seems to think Reuben will win over Clay...and yet Clay is the favorite (@ -160 Olympic).

In any case...here is free money!!

Clay -160 / Reuben +130 @ Olympic
Clay -120 / Reuben -110 @ GameDay

Do you see the gap here?!!

Unfor
Take Clay -120 @ GameDay & Reuben +130 @ Olympic.

Unfortunately, there is a $300 max bet @ GameDay.

Good Luck.

 

[mjalam]

thanks for the free $$$ i just did it

 

[pt1gard]

the only thing i EVer win

the only thing i EVer win

is this hollywood crap, hehe

HAD MATRIX OVER X2

and the winner of A2, but i wont spoil who it was in case some of you dont know yet

gl, gregg

 

[kickserv]

Reuban wins with 50.28 % of the vote..........dam dam close

 

[pt1gard]

2 cents on sham

2 cents on sham

Obviously it was rigged and I even won a big bet on Ruben ... No way it comes down to 1300 votes, esp. when many couldnt even vote ... This was obvious ploy to generate big drama and more money promoting the show to win ratings and pump out $$ for AI 3 and Clay and Ruben's first CDs ... PT Barnum would've loved it ... Entertaining? Yes. Smart? Yes. A hoax? Only the gullible would believe it turned out this way on heels of Gore and Bush.





gregg

 

[kickserv]

oh geez.........

yeah.....FOX is going to rig their most poular show.......gimmie a break


only the gullible would actually think it's rigged..........sheesh


yeah I can see the FOX exec's standing around.........."hmmm let's see........we have the most poular show on TV"......"We have the most popular show when it comes to advertising dollars"......ok I know what to do.....LET"S RIG IT!!"

wake up..........why in the love of fu** would FOX risk rigging a show..........you can't be serious pt1gard........if that show was rigged they would lose millions of dollars...........why the hell would they risk that :shrug:


there is no logical reason for them to "rig" the show.........and oh by the way.........if the show was "rigged" the top 12 would be way different.......


sure...many things in this world are worth looking into....as for American Idol being rigged..........that's one of the dumbest things I've heard in awhile........thanks for the laugh

 

[pt1gard]

so you think

so you think

the vote was 1300 apart?

and why could many people not get thru for Clay in Chicago and LA and yet get straight through for Ruben (im not making this up, many people are writing this stuff all over) ...

I could care less about the show, I even luckily won my bet, but if one thinks it was totally legit while all these contestants must sign silence-not-reveal contracts, and ratings soar if things stay neck and neck for next version and no monkey business is going on, and all this GIANT free pub with these two guys and record contracts isnt all highly dubious and coincidental, then I have to laugh right back ... and seacrest couldnt even get his subterfuge right, he insisted it was 13K for a while, then said, "oops, its 1300," that was amusing

gl, gregg

ps i seem to recall quiz show scandals (yes, they were cash cvows back then too) rampant during a time in america where no one cursed on TV, lied too much to the public, nor did married sitcom couples sleep in same bed--i.e. we were supposedly innocent ... and there have been many other shaky things in game and reality shows ever since ... follow the money, as DEEP THROAT warned in the parking garage

 

[alb]

I applaud anything you can win $$ on. But as for the show.........who cares?

 

[pt1gard]

im with ya, alb

im with ya, alb

i just am fairly convinced something fishy went on and made a statement, Kickserv didnt like which is cool, thats what our consitution and MJs is for ...

gl, gregg

 

[kickserv]

but hey we in Canada don't have a constitution


anyway.....I'll win Canadian Idol..fair and square

 

[Mr.]

XXXXX DRUDGE REPORT XXXXX THU MAY 22, 2003 10:04:25 ET XXXXX

CALLS FOR AUDIT HIT 'IDOL': CONTEST QUESTIONED AFTER DIFFERENT VOTE TALLY; FOX TO LAUNCH REVIEW

**Exclusive**

On air last night AMERICAN IDOL host Ryan Seacrest claimed only 1,335 out of 24 million phone-votes separated the two singing finalists, resulting in a dramatic Florida election-style ending to the series.

Or was it really 130,000 votes, not the numbers quoted on the air!

One thing is clear, one out of three televisions in the nation tuned in to the broadcast, which originated live from Universal City. But now serious questions are being raised about the integrity of the final IDOL vote, and the entire franchise may be at risk.

MORE

"Listen, I've been around Hollywood for a long, long time, and this reeks of a contrived, phony ending," a top executive from a rival network charged Thursday morning. "No one here believes for one second the votes landed just 1,300 apart. It's a disgrace... in fact, I think we are looking at a modern day version of the $64,000 question!"

MORE

The network president, who demanded anonymity, suggests an outside audit be performed on the IDOL showdown, but he stopped short of calling for an official state or federal criminal probe.

"Listen, we all get hurt when the viewer is misled, or tricked, I really think FOX, [the show's producers] 19 TV and even AT&T should open up the process, not hide behind secrecy or the complexity of counting so many votes over different time zones... Who or what told them this? A computer? Was there any human review? I know how this works, and I just do not think the truth is being told here...

"If this show is going to return next season with any integrity, whatsoever, I think there needs to be a top to bottom review of the [voting] process," the rival network executive said.

MORE

IDOL host Seacrest added to the confusion by announcing conflicting margins and votes throughout the evening. Seacrest moved from a 1,335 vote difference to a 50.28 per cent score for winner Ruben Studdard, putting him at about 134,000 votes ahead of Clay Aiken.

Seacrest announced a 13,000 vote difference in the first hour of the program, 1,335 votes when he revealed the decision. Finally, after the show, producers revealed a 134,000 margin!

News organizations on the morning after the night before were quoting various final totals.

FOX will launch an internal review of what led to the voter tally confusion, a FOX source told the DRUDGE REPORT.

"As far as we are concerned, the votes are not in dispute," said the insider. "We are looking at how the bad math got on the air."

Officially, Scott Grogin, Vice President of Corporate Communications for FOX Broadcasting tells DRUDGE: "The host simply read incorrect information on a live broadcast."

MORE

But what a night it was for FOX, according to NIELSEN overnights.

IDOL turned in a 24.3 rating/33 share in its final 30 minutes, in 55 metered markets: maxing with a 30 share in New York City; 33 share Los Angeles; 34 Philly; 38 San Fran; 37 Miami; 41 D.C.; 49 Atlanta.

Developing...

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(c)DRUDGE REPORT 2003
Not for reproduction without permission of the author

 

[pt1gard]

now its 134K hehe

now its 134K hehe

thanx for the post, MR ....

im not the biggest skeptic in world but I smell scams pretty easily and something here is wrong obviously ... If they came out initially and said 134K i wouldnt have been so cynical, but to repeatedly change their numbers is shaky to say the least ...

here's some fun reading for any with an historian's bent

gl, gregg

TRIVIA
over 20 years ago I thought about writing a screenplay based on the quiz show scandals after reading all about in a book--I was fascinated by the whole process, seemingly inncoent eisenhowers playing three card monte ... Initially the shows were on the level, even Joyce brothers won 64K, her unlikely field of expertise was Boxing ... by 1956 Teddy Nadler had won 252K on the $64,000 Question but TV GUIDE sniffed something tainted and finally wrote the first article precipitating the wobble on quiz shows ... In 1958 a disgruntled DOTTO loser went public by revealing the show was rigged. Amazingly, all quiz shows were forced off the air for a long time ...

archival from PBS GREAT AMERICAN EXPERIENCE

JACK NARZ, Host, "Dotto": Thank you, you're very kind, Welcome to Dotto, brought. to you by Colgate toothpaste.

Mr. NARZ: Now, the show that I did went on the air in 1958 and five weeks later, Dotto, the show, was the highest-rated daytime show in the history of television.

[interview] Fate is a strange thing, isn't it? A successful thing like that show, two million or more a week sending in postcards to the show, climbing to the heights, number one rating in nighttime -- millions and millions of people watching it, everything just sailing along fantastically well and then some guy opens up a notebook that's about that big and sees some answers and everything ends.

What happened on this show -- there was a standby contestant backstage, a fellow by the name of Hilgemeyer. In this dressing room that all the contestants shared, he saw this lady in a corner making notes in a notebook and keeping rather to herself. Suddenly, somebody came in from the show and said, "You're on next," and I introduced her and she became a contestant on the show.

ANNOUNCER: Dotto welcomes back our new champion from New York, Miss Marie Wynn and --

Mr. NARZ: I'm onstage now at this point out there, doing a show live. This fellow, who was a standby contestant, followed her out and stood in the wings. He noticed that she was giving the answers rather smoothly.

MARIE WYNN, Contestant, "Dotto": The Cask of Amontillado.

Mr. NARZ: You are right

[interview] It looked too pat. He went back into the dressing room and there spotted this notebook that this lady had been writing in. He opened it up and there were the answers in the notebook that she was giving to the questions onstage at that moment.

Armed with the pages of the pages of the notebook, this standby contestant went to the press and told a newspaper reporter. The reporter called CBS. CBS, I guess, decided to look at a kinescope of a show and they matched the answers on this sheet of paper to the answers that she gave on the show and I guess they were a little too pat and they decided, "Well, this looks like it's rigged," and they took the show off the air immediately. That was the end of it.

NARRATOR: Dotto opened the floodgates. Now, all the quiz shows were subject to investigation. The shows fell like ten-pins in a bowling alley, one right after the other. Ratings plummeted. The top-rated $64,000 Question dropped to 73rd place. Rumors resurfaced about Twenty-One. For the first time, Herb Stempel's charges would be taken seriously.