anybody experienced with the Win32/FakeSysdef virus?

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I have googled my ass off to try and get rid of this problem, even doing a post at bleepingcomputer.

My 1st post at bleepingbleep:

Posted Yesterday, 07:48 PM

This activated on my system yesterday, Feb14th, at 10pm est.

My Microsoft Security Essentials notified me that it caught a Trojan and I allowed it to remove it. Or so I thought.
The fake scanner popped up and did not allow me to close it. Even task manager would not open, in order to close it.
I was hoping that a reboot would help so I did so with the power button, the only option to reboot available.
No good...I had the long, narrow error message about no disc found and could perform no function.
I took the system to a friend's place and we managed to do some virus scans (microsoft security essentials, malwarebytes, and I later did
one with Trend Microsystems Housecall). We recovered the system to the point of ensuring that all files were still there (though they had
become hidden) and networking was possible. Of course, my taskbar, start menu and desktop were all empty and I have done what I can to
manually restore it's lost state. We tried system restore, from a few points, and it wouldn't get past the 'initializing' stage, so after about
10 minutes or so, each time, we gave up on that idea.

I have two main concerns at this stage:
1. Is the virus actually eliminated or is it lying dormant somewhere?
2. Is there a way to restore my systems settings to how they were previously?

Obviously, I am also interested in knowing where it came from in the first place, but I'm guessing that such will be difficult to pin down.
If virus protection software would indicate such information then it would be infinitely more valuable. All I can suggest, for this concern, is four possible sources: I was watching a downloaded mpeg movie at the time, I had a video downloading via a torrent and I had, a few minutes prior, just started to download the part 2 of a 3-part rar. The 3 just mentioned were from reasonably trusted sites though the rar in question came from a site that I thought had become corrupted about 6 or 7 months ago (and fixed subsequently). The 4th possibility, as I found out a few hours ago, was that an e-mail I received was not actually sent from the sender but apparently from a possibly nefarious source; I did look at the e-mail but didn't open any attachment as I won't open e-mail attachments. There was a hyperlink--to a website--in the e-mail but I honestly can't recall if I clicked on it or not...I don't think so. Regardless, opening this e-mail was done several days before problems started (I'm pretty sure late on the 10th).

I should add that my friend claims that my system restore points might have been corrupted and perhaps I should eliminate them. I do have some
registry back-ups--done with crap cleaner--available. I am not sure if they are the entire registry or just info regarding corrections that
crap cleaner was about to make, and searching for info on that has provided ambiguous information. A crap cleaner representative claims that
right-clicking and selecting 'merge' restores those registry backs, but didn't state whether they were full-backs or just of any changes.

I am not sure what else to add presently, save that I am considering trying another registry repairer, perhaps wiseregistrycleaner or fixncr,
that latter of which I'm pretty sure is available from this site.

Any helpful information would be appreciated.
Thanks.

This post has been edited by shipoffools: Yesterday, 07:58 PM

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The response I got looked a little useless:
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/topic442804.html/page__gopid__2600011#entry2600011
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Seems to keep putting something nasty in my AppData file. Also some other weird stuff, like I am not allowed to even put a background on the screen (only shows at log-in ad shut-down, otherwise remaining blank.)

Somebody on here can give me some useful info and it will help me to prove a point (not to mention fixing my bleep).
I'll start pimpin' for you if this works, Jack.
 

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Thanks, Jack.
If this is just more scans then I don't know how many I can take...I'll check out the sites, though.

I just finished a scan with ESET online scanner.

Told me 4 found.
2 were a setup exe that is no longer on my comp.
1 from Miro installer exe that used once or twice ages ago, with no trouble.
1 was a future imager plugin (.dll). I use capture for screenshots and have had no issues.

I don't know.

ESET called these nasties:
Win32/Kryptik.MLW trojan
Win32/Toolbar.Zugo application

At least my system is working/on-line etc.
For now.
 

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I know that I have something bogging down my computer too ... the little yellow light next to the power button keeps blinking and my mouse is not working very well ... I am a computer illiterate so will try some of those links this weekend :0008
 

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Last word on my current (past?) probs, here.

Just over 48 hours later and I seem to have resolved most of my issues. No files lost and I've recovered my start menu (including 'All Programs' which got zapped), my desktop (incl. background), unhid most of the files (fuckers found a way to go 'properties' and check 'hide' on most folders, with this dang virus). etc etc

I still have no idea what caused it all--wasn't the downloads and I doubt it was the e-mail. who knows.

Through it all I've learned a lot about my comp and comps in general (silver lining adversity).
Not to mention that it appears to running much smoother and faster with all the scans and clean-up that I was forced to do.

A dude Bruni, at bleepingcomputer.com, was helpful on the cleanup, certainly. You can register there for free and post any queries regarding malware or whatevas. I got responses very quickly.
Most of all it was just patience and determination.

Death to all viral sinner spreaders!
May they all be forced to suck on Satan's cock!



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Last word on my current (past?) probs, here.

Just over 48 hours later and I seem to have resolved most of my issues. No files lost and I've recovered my start menu (including 'All Programs' which got zapped), my desktop (incl. background), unhid most of the files (fuckers found a way to go 'properties' and check 'hide' on most folders, with this dang virus). etc etc

I still have no idea what caused it all--wasn't the downloads and I doubt it was the e-mail. who knows.

Through it all I've learned a lot about my comp and comps in general (silver lining adversity).
Not to mention that it appears to running much smoother and faster with all the scans and clean-up that I was forced to do.

A dude Bruni, at bleepingcomputer.com, was helpful on the cleanup, certainly. You can register there for free and post any queries regarding malware or whatevas. I got responses very quickly.
Most of all it was just patience and determination.

Death to all viral sinner spreaders!
May they all be forced to suck on Satan's cock!

That's good news. Bleepingcomputer.com is an awesome site.

One of our clients had this or something similar virus wise.

What I can recall is, it was a pain in the ass unhiding all of the files and folders. Try to come up with a system/plan for unhiding everything. Like a top down approach. Using Window Explorer was very helpful because it kept all of the folders and files visible on one screen. To get to Windows Explorer
Start - All Files - Accessories - Windows Explorer

Also make sure all of your programs start when you double click them. I may have this confused with another virus, but I thought it also didn't allow some programs like msconfig, taskmgr, internet explorer, etc. to run.

One last thing, When you discover a virus, try to eliminate it before rebooting or shutting down. The best way to do this is to use Windows Task Manager (ctrl+shift+esc) and close it via Applications and/or processes. If a virus pops up, like a fake scanner, don't click the ok or the cancel button. Don't shut off or reboot. Most of the registry items of a virus will be added during startup. The virus makers don't give you a yes or no choice of whether you want a virus either. Both buttons, cancel and ok will activate the virus and add registry items. Just because the virus is not on the screen doesn't mean it is not running.

Dunclock, look up the stuff we posted on msconfig and run combofix. Those 2 things should speed you up.

Hopefully I can get back to help Hooks soon. If those 8-10 things don't fix his computer, I think I'm out of ideas.

Y'all take care
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Also make sure all of your programs start when you double click them. I may have this confused with another virus, but I thought it also didn't allow some programs like msconfig, taskmgr, internet explorer, etc. to run.

One last thing, When you discover a virus, try to eliminate it before rebooting or shutting down. The best way to do this is to use Windows Task Manager (ctrl+shift+esc) and close it via Applications and/or processes. If a virus pops up, like a fake scanner, don't click the ok or the cancel button. Don't shut off or reboot. Most of the registry items of a virus will be added during startup. The virus makers don't give you a yes or no choice of whether you want a virus either. Both buttons, cancel and ok will activate the virus and add registry items. Just because the virus is not on the screen doesn't mean it is not running.

So far so good with other programs but I wouldn't be surprised if there are other surprises in store--from past malcrap--as time passes (that sentence gets a "D" if I buy the teacher lunch).
My system restore didn't work, as a ways to recover past settings; in fact, it just wouldn't get past the 'initializing' stage of the restore. I'm not sure if that function has been affected or if my restore points were contaminated or what. Regardless, I've created new restore points since fixing the serious nonsense and deleted the previous ones.

Looks like good tips for when the virus pops up, but if memory serves I was not even able to open task manager when the fake scanner popped up. I couldn't close the program or really do anything so I rebooted (oops?). I would think that registry contamination would happen once the virus initiated but who knows. Probably different ones do different funks.

As for system restore to get rid of a virus...I've had viruses where this totally did not help. If there is a program or file on your comp that is infecting your registry then even after you restore the registry it will just keep on funking it up. A think that using a couple of good virus scanners is the only safe option (a couple as it seems that, even with the best of them, some are good for some things while some are good for others).

I still don't know where the fucker came from.
Last possibility--after the 4 mentioned earlier, none of which comply to reason--is that I had my virus protection off for about 10-15 minutes on the 12th as my McAfee finally died (thank Hendrix) and I had to install Microsoft Security Essentials. I was careful not to go to any other sites save the MSE download site, not to mention that my trouble started 2.5 days after doing this, so that don't seem to cut it neither (D-).

The movie, In Time, I was halfway through, was an mpeg4 and allegedly they can be funked. I've scanned the fucker a few times, though, and was told she be safe. I'm still not anxious to try again.
Seemed to kinda suck, anywho.
 
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