ARE WE WINNING IN IRAQ ?

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The Army's top General was asked, whether the military was winning in Iraq ? After a long pause, General Shoomaker said, we are not losing. He went on to say , we are closer to the beginning than the end.
 
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We won in Korea & Vietnam also. We can't and won't win a conventional war in Iraq. Not today, not tomorrow, not next wk. We don't have the balls or the leadership at the top to do the job. If this is winning, I glad we are not losing. Smart ass wise guys sit on their fat asses while our guys up front get theirs kicked every day. I say we pull everyone back and bomb those ****ers for 365 days. We ****ed up going in, so we should finish the job. We won't, we never do.
 
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Who are you going to bomb for 365 days? Who are you going to nuke? What are you going to do after you nuke them. The Zionists are levelling Lebanon, killing indiscriminatley, doing billions of dollars in damage demanding return of 2 soldiers, yea right.
 

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Upstairs watching sports on the big TV.
Putin's comment...on news

Putin's comment...on news

Bush and Putin were engaged in" lite verbal jockularity" (as Cosell would say) and Bush commented about Russian Politics....

Putin responded that we, meaning Russia, did not want the same" Democracy " that the USA has given Iraq.....I about bust a gut and fell out of my chair.....

I like Putin, funny guy...
Bush, kind of reminds me of a good ole boys not too swift, beer drinkin' fishin' buddy, who suddenly got promoted from a assembly-line worker to president of that car company.
Kind of a clueless deer in the headlite look, trying not to sound too stupid, laughs at the wrong time.....
GOD or SUPREME BEING of your choice, HELP US in these troubling times... :scared :scared :scared
 

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You don't give any credence to the words of our Chief of Staff of the US Army?


i wasn't there when he said it..& i'm not going to take bryanz on what he said.

everybody in the free world should pray that the u.s. wins in iraq & israel can do real damage to hezbollah.
 

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OK - Here is the article since you don't trust bryanz...


WASHINGTON - The Army's top uniformed officer said yesterday he did not believe the United States was losing the war in Iraq, but declined to say the nation was winning. Americans should brace for a long, dangerous fight against terrorism, said Gen. Peter Schoomaker, the Army's chief of staff.

"I believe that we are closer to the beginning ... than we are to the end," he said during a luncheon on Capitol Hill sponsored by the Defense Forum Foundation.

When asked whether the military was winning in Iraq, Schoomaker paused before saying: "I don't think we're losing."

Schoomaker cited sectarian violence as a serious problem, and said achieving security was becoming more "complex."

"Where I think we are on the scale of winning I think is a very difficult thing and I think time will tell," he said.

Schoomaker said he does not envision reducing the time soldiers spend deployed in Iraq because shorter combat tours would cause too much "turbulence" in the war. Soldiers are typically sent for year-long deployments in Iraq.

In Iraq yesterday, bombs and mortars struck Shiite and Sunni mosques in the Baghdad area, the latest in a week of tit-for-tat sectarian attacks that have killed more than 250 people.

The deadliest explosion came as worshipers left services at a Sunni mosque in northern Baghdad, killing 14 people and wounding five, police said.

The Associated Press

Originally published on July 15, 2006



It is difficult to pray for a victory in Iraq when I am unsure about our objectives there in the first place. For me, there is no victory. When we "win" the war in Iraq, it will just be over.... what will be accomplished, except that we have wreaked internal damage on a country, killed thousands of innocent people, and spent way too much money doing it????

I pray for peace.
 

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OK

I pray for peace.


no kidding !!

make sure the terroists,n.k., iran, & the rest hear your prayer.

your deluding(sp ?) if you think there will ever be peace as long as the above is still walking around.
 

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We have put our military in babysitting roll. Where they are dieing. Are we winning you ask? Winning what? The right for Iraq to vote.
Ok they voted bring our guys home were not babysitters. Iraqis want us to leave any way. Ok good by.
 

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AR182--

I never said there would be peace, but that is what I pray for. I am not delusional and realize we live in a world full of hate, but change starts on an individual level, and personally I cannot breed more hate.

And you should hope that all these people you mentioned (terrorists etc) DON'T hear your prayer, because it will just make them hate us more...and the hate goes round and round and round...
 

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AR182 said:
no kidding !!

make sure the terroists,n.k., iran, & the rest hear your prayer.

I'd like to hear the transgressions against America that have been even somewhat recently perpetrated by Iraq, Iran and NK.

Iran definitely needs to be checked, sooner than later, but let's not get carried away.
 

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djv said:
We have put our military in babysitting roll. Where they are dieing. Are we winning you ask? Winning what? The right for Iraq to vote.
Ok they voted bring our guys home were not babysitters. Iraqis want us to leave any way. Ok good by.

Right. At this point we are simply there at the implicit behest of the Shias, and that's sickening.

There is no winning or losing over there. Not in the traditional sense.
 

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AR182--



And you should hope that all these people you mentioned (terrorists etc) DON'T hear your prayer, because it will just make them hate us more...and the hate goes round and round and round...

first of all they WON'T listen to my prayers because i'm jewish..they want me dead.

2nd..i don't believe in god so i don't pray.
 
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I'd like to hear the transgressions against America that have been even somewhat recently perpetrated by Iraq, Iran and NK.

Iran definitely needs to be checked, sooner than later, but let's not get carried away.


they don't anything out front..they do it covertly.

n.k. sells stuff to iran & terrorists...& it goes on & on...& it can wind up in the u.s.
 

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They had 50 more gunned down yesterday including woman and children. Japan sent home there last 230 troops so another country has pulled out.
 

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"the bunker"
noboy`s changing anybody`s mind on this issue....

but ask yourself this......if saddam had been left to his own devices,what would he be doing right now?......

would he be sitting idly by as iran builds nuclear weapons?.....

why wouldn`t he be lobbing 500 pound scuds into israel as he did during the gulf war(without provocation,i might add)?

if the guy coddled terrorists prior to his removal(yes,i understand that he had nothing to do with 9/11)....paid suicide bombers $25,000 a pop to kill israelis,yada yada.......

what would the middle east look like right now?

take a long look at a map of the middle east.....

it`s a simple equation...all you have to do is leave israel the hell alone...let them have that tiny sliver of land that they have...

take all that malicious energy that that is used for genocide,and build something worthwhile......

like they were attempting to do in lebanon...of course,anybody that thinks that these malicious bastards aren`t happy that they`re fouling lebanon is living in the land of faeries and leprechauns...

what did tel aviv look like in 1948 when the u.n. partitioned the area?....

like palestine does today..........

all that oil wealth....all those rich muslim brothers in saudi arabia,the u.a.e.,kuwait,qatar.....all those oil riches in iran....

what`s the problem?....palestine should be the showplace of the middle east...
 
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we achieved victory in Iraq more than 3 years ago...GW put his little flight suit on and told me so himself.

President Bush Announces Combat Operations in Iraq Have Ended

President George W. Bush
USS Abraham Lincoln
At Sea Off the Coast of San Diego, California
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gardenweasel

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can anybody answer my questions?....

1)what would saddam be doing?

2)why aren`t the palestinians on par with the israelis?.....on basically the same land....

3)why not do something constructive...and give up on the idea of killing all the jews?....not to mention all the christians,hindus,buddhists........
 
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