Arizona/Wisky write up. . .

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Hopefully I don't put most of you to sleep with this write up as it should be fairly lengthy. I also want to add a reminder that I am a biased Arizona fan, so this writeup may be biased in certain parts, but when I cap a game, I try to leave out my biased opinion in favor of facts . . lets start first with what I know/have found out with ONLY Arizona:

The Cats left earlier today (Thursday) in order to get up to Madison and settle in so they can get up early on Friday and get used to playing for what will by 9am their time. I assume Coach Machovic had a few early practices during the week, but certainly cannot confirm this and it may not have coincided with class schedules. I still assume that something was done to get the players used to playing at their best so early in the day. I have heard that RB Clarence Farmer MIGHT NOT (this is certainly not a confirmation) play because of a sprained ankle during practice this week. If Farmer does not play, then Bell will take his place. . . few have heard of Bell, but he is very fast and should do a decent job rushing for the Cats although I would obviously prefer Farmer and his added size against a Big 10 defense. Finally, the Cats are pumped for this game. . . all of the crap that has been reported about Arizona being handed the victory against Utah has provided them extra fire and motivation to do well on ESPN against Wisconsin and show they are a good football team that won the game against Utah.

If anybody is a Badger fan and has some info about Wisconsin and how their practice/preparation went this week, please add it to this thread as it could only help everyone cap this game better.

Anyways, lets get to the analysis:

I'm not fully convinced that either team has played an opponent to the level that each will face on Saturday. . . I do believe Utah is a very good team, but not sure it is the same as facing Wisconsin on the road (maybe we'll know more after Utah plays Michigan, but too late to change our mind about this game). However, what I have noticed from Jason Johnson from U of A is that he is very effective WHEN HE HAS TIME IN THE POCKET. He threw one interception against Utah at the beginning of the 3rd quarter but everything else that I saw from him was quite impressive. Credit has to also go to the experience offensive line which will have every starter available for the game this Saturday (I believe one or two may have been absent against Utah). If Fresno State and Northern Illinois had success going to the air against Wisconsin, then I cannot see how Arizona will be stopped. A great addition/star to the passing attack is Thurman who gives Johnson two very good receivers to choose from on any given pass play (Bobby Wade being the other). In my opinion, Farmer would be a difficult loss, but should not hinder their ability to run the football because Wisconsin should focus most of their attention on the pass. As long as Arizona is able to keep the Wisky D in check by mixing up their pass plays with a few rushing attacks, I cannot see the Cats having problems scoring often against this unexperienced and young Wisky defensive team. It is important to note that Wisconsin was able to win their first four games because of their offense and timely turnovers. . . their defense is extremely weak.

Bollinger leads the Wisconsin offense which is their team's strength. Even with the loss of Evans, the Badgers have not had a problem running the football as Davis has filled in nicely. My greatest concern from a Wildcat standpoint is how Arizona will contain Wisconsin's passing attack. I'm not very concerned about the run as they have a history of doing quite will with their rush defense, but their pass defense has not been very strong execpt with the 1997 team that featured an All American DB. I was impressed with Arizona's play against Utah's passing attack as DBs seemed to be all over the field contesting passes and knocking potential catches away. . . they actually went for the ball instead of simply containing the receivers which was the norm the past few years! Williams and Orr for Wisconsin should be difficult to contain for the Cats. . . I feel the real advantage the Cats will have on defense is their defensive line getting to Bollinger early and often in order to force him to make quick and difficult decisions. Bollinger is a great scrambler as well, but again, Arizona should have the advantage most of the time with any kind of rushing play. Still, Wisconsin should put up a few touchdowns, but I feel Arizona's defense will stop them enough for Arizona to outscore them. Should be a high scoring game with the winner probably hitting the upper 30's to 40's. This is one reason why I believe taking the points is not as valuable in this game as taking the ML for Arizona. . . if you want Wisconsin, then don't be afraid to lay the points as the winner will likely win by a TD or more.

Couple interesting stats:

Arizona is 7-1 ATS as away dogs. . . this is since the humiliating defeat against Penn State in the 1998 opener that many still have not forgotten

Wisconsin is 0-5 ATS off three straight up wins. . . not sure if this really means that much. . . I think the Arizona stat is much more meaningful.

The Sporting New's Analysis:

"Maybe Game 5 will give us a clue as to how good Wisconsin is. So far, we're pretty sure the Badgers are either good enough to win the Big Ten or not good enough to win the Mid-American Conference.

Are the Badgers to be commended for doing whatever it takes to win? Or should we be concerned about those 10 sacks, 68 yards rushing and 3-point escape of Northern Illinois last Saturday? Or the 2-point win over a Fresno State team minus David Carr in Week 1?

Not only does Arizona offer Wisconsin its toughest test to date, the Badgers are in trouble in this first meeting between the teams. "

Advantages according to The Sporting News:

Arizona: QB, D line, O line, linebackers, and secondary.

Wisconsin: running backs, special teams, and coaching

I believe The Sporting News usually does a good job breaking down games by listing where the advantages are. . . as you can see, they feel Arizona has several key advantages. The only Arizona advantage that I would disagree on somewhat is at QB because I feel Johnson still hasn't proven himself where Bollinger is more experienced and maybe the better QB. . . but pass protection should once again be the key and I feel Arizona has a huge advantage in this area.

In the end, I feel Arizona has at least a 50% chance of winning this game. . . with a money line at +170 to +200 on several books, I believe this is the greatest value instead of taking the 4.5 to 5.5 points. I am going to wait and see how the line moves tomorrow before placing a wager, but I expect to see nothing less than +170 on the ML when I play this side.

An interesting side note on public perception and how Vegas uses it to set their lines:

If Wisconsin had a split record right now with 2 wins and 2 losses instead of 4 wins (which could have easily happened as they were lucky to defeat Fresno State and very lucky against Northern Illinois), then there is no chance that Vegas would have set a line like they did for this game with Wisky being favored by 7. This line was set with the belief that Wisconsin's perfect record through 4 games would look strong in the eyes of many bettors where as several of us know the truth as to how good this team really looked their first 4 games.

Final note:

On wagerline, well over 50% of the publis is on Wisconsin, yet the line as gone down to 4.5 on many books. . . 5 on most of them. Think this is a good sign for those who side with Arizona this Saturday morning!



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Nice write-up, and i found some news for you. Good news, followed by bad news, then good news again!

*Clarence Farmer was dinged up in the Utah game and has been held out of practice. He should be back to full speed/contact on Wednesday.

Junior CB injured left knee on Wednesday
Jolivette Out, Two Others Questionable for Wisconsin Game


UW announced this morning that WR Lee Evans will not play Saturday. Think he is their top WR.

I have not done research on this game, but thinking about researching it after reading your write-up. But i quickly found this info that i thought you might enjoy. Farmer is a great running back, and against my USC Trojans he killed us. I am thinking betting on Arizona and ML it, but i will do my research tom. and see what i will do. Good Luck!

I might parlay ML it with USC ML and Arizona ML!
 

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I'll give you the biased Wisconsin view.

First, Arizona should have lost last week. I'll admit I was surprised they were that close, but anyone on the Wildcat team has to look at that reply and realize they got away with one.

Second, the D isn't THAT weak. They have had four games to get into a groove, they haven't given up more than 21 points in any game and have the offense to counter than many points. They have struggled big-time with spread offenses in the past and shut down WVA. This was a big confidence booster. Struggles in the early games have gotten them prepared for the later games.

Last week was a step back, but you should see a more determined UW squad this week. Arizona will no doubt blitz the hell out of the Badgers, as that's how NIU kept up with them, but Wisconsin will be more prepared for the blitz this time. The problems with stopping the pass rush was really with the skill position guys, mostly Davis and Williams. They have been working on this all week.

Wisconsin has a four year starter at QB which is always big, and they have the best center in the country to lead one of the nation's best lines. The line played like ass last week and is going to bounce back. They have been busting their asses off all week and will be extra determined this week.

And yes, Lee Evans will not play this week.

That is my piece, regardless, good luck this week... Brandon
 

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Should be an entertaining game to watch. However, since both of you started your posts with phrases that basically say "I am biased", buy a six pack and watch the game but don't wager on it. Almost impossible to have an objective view when u already have a rooting interest in one team. Good Luck to both of u this weekend.
 

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Never understood the "never bet on your team" mentality.

What is gambling on sports all about? Matchups and Information. If you don't know your own team 10 times better than any other team you have no business wagering on anything.

The test is, can one be clear headed and objective. Since my money is involved I say ABSOLUTELY. As an Aizona grad, I have no problem wagering on them when I feel it's the right matchup (Utah last week and Wisc. this week) and have no problem wagering against them (Oregon in 2 weeks especially without Jolivette) when the line and matchup call for it.

Give JJ time in the pocket and UA outscores Wisconsin. Give UA a 4-0 record in 2 weeks vs an undefeated Oregon team as a small favorite and I'll take Oregon in a heartbeat. UA pass rush is poor and pass d is going to be a problem vs. wide open Pac-10 teams, much like last season, especially without Jolivette.
 

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I personally won't be on my team unless I feel there is very solid value. In this game, I won't be playing it. I see no way Wisconsin loses and would hammer the game at a pick, but having the the points I would much rather just watch the game and enjoy it rather than worry about getting a cover.
 

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Love the Cats Nickelback, but I'm playing the points and a small one on the over. Good value. Good luck!;)
 

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Evans has not played this season. Will start first game in Big Ten opener. Couple of other young kids have stepped up. Wisky passing game more yards then they are use to. RB, A. Davis had off week last week with upset tummy. Wisky will play better this week. But never like my team as a Fav because they don't cover for chit. Give me Wisky as dog that's the better play.
 

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bjfinste said:
I'll give you the biased Wisconsin view.

First, Arizona should have lost last week. I'll admit I was surprised they were that close, but anyone on the Wildcat team has to look at that reply and realize they got away with one.


First of all, did you see the replay??? Yes he did score a TD but it was BY NO MEANS odvious, plus anyone who watched the game would have to acknowledge the fact that 2 or 3 plays before the blown TD call, the officials CLEARLY blowed a fumble call in favor of Arizona. So if you look at it that way, had they not blown the fumble call there neevr would've been a blown TD call.

The Arizona voctory was far more dominant then the score indicated.

How good is the Wisco pass D, cause Jason Johnson has been tourching the secondary all year.
 

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Kind of interesting because for value purposes, it would have been better if UA lost last weekend because the ML would have added value for this week. . .but I'm glad they pulled it off because they deserved the win. . . anybody who watched the entire game would agree. . . Utah was fortunate to stay in the game and have the chance that they had at the end of the game.

As for this Saturday's game:

I am concerned that Jolivette is out. . . I'm not gonna surgar coat it and say everything will be fine. I was looking forward to having him match up on Orr. . . if anything, this makes the over play a strong one in my book. . . it was strong before, but more so with Jolivette out becuase I can see both teams throwing the ball in order to win this game. In the end, I still see Arizona outscoring this Badger team as Arizona's defensive line will still give Bollinger some problems and limit his time in the pocket where as the Badgers will not limit Johnson IMO.

Win or lose, the ML is the best play for me in this game. But I cannot blame anybody for taking the 4+ points.

GL all!
 

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I'll add my two cents here.

Badger fan here, but I think you guys are on the right side w/ Arizona. I tried it for a little on the ML. Badgers have to be about the phoniest undefeated team left. The offensive line was supposed to be a strength, but it hasn't been. Mucho sacks allowed, and the rushing gm hasn't taken off yet (and mostly vs lower class teams).

Fresno was playing 1st gm w/o Carr, and Fresno wins it if not for a bonehead offside by Burley late in the game. The Badgers missed that fg, but the offside allowed them to kick it again.

Thomas from UNLV flat out gave that game away. UNLV's skill position players (excluding Thomas) were going to cause problems for Wisky's d, but never had an opportunity b/c of the Thomas gaffes.

Impressive win vs West Va. Didn't expect it to be that ez.

Miracle win vs Northern Illinois. Northern played w/o top RB Hammock and mysteriously still dominated the trenches. Had significant rush stat edge.

GL, boys. I think Farmer, Johnson, and Wade cause problems for this Badger defense. I'm a bettor first and foremost, so I'll put my heart away for this one. (gulp) Go, Cats.
 

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Gonna play Lousiville for a good size play today as well. . . laying a huge number in 27, but Army is absolutely pathetic. . . doubt they will even score a point. . . but if they do, Louisville should score plenty to cover this number.
 

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just any FYI.........there was a line move just now on this game on the total....it jumped from 54 to 58..........:)
 

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Yes UT. .. a nice little wise guy move on the total. . . still like the AZ side better but I can't blame them for taking the over. Just hope the Cats have the majority of the points when its all said and done!
 

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So much for time in the pocket :rolleyes: Cats are gonna have to find a way around this or else they're in for a very long day.
 

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Jason Johnson is all over the place and the running game is not moving the ball. But its the TO's that are killing them. Come on fellas, pick it up a bit ...
 

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the game is over??? I thought they played 2 halves and 4 quarters in football?
 
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