Ashes 2nd Test

[Pumpkin]

After Austrlaia dominating from the very 1st ball it is hard to see England win here, but given the Adelaide Oval is a batting track, they must win the toss if they are to have any hope at all.

And for that reason, will not do anything until after the toss.

 

[british bulldog]

Laying Australia @ 1.55 for 5.5 units.

So if Australia win I lose 5.5 units.

If England win or the Test is a draw I win 10 units.



Running Balanace after first Test;


3 units Ponting to reach 9,000 career runs in the second Test @ 4.333 LOST -3.00

4 units Ponting to reach 9,000 career runs in the third Test @ 2.625 LOST -4.00


20 units Australia to score 550 or more runs in their first innings @ 1.83 WON +16.66


6 units Shane Warne over 136.5 (player performance) @ 1.833 in First Test at the Gabba LOST -6.00


+3.66 units

 

[PAWAQATSI]

Hmmmmmm.......Poms actually put up a fight on day one. :com:

This may go a 'legitimate' five days!!! :mj07:

 

[british bulldog]

First up, good to see you on the message board Pawa. How's the family?

I'm coming out to Melbourne for Christmas to take in the fourth Test before moving on for the fifth test over teh new year.


Hoping the first three tests will help with some added spending money as if I'm not mistaken from my last visit to Oz, the bears really weak so you need three times the amount than you would do over here.

Anyway, if you want to hook up for an evening between Christmas and the new year drop me a line and I'll take you and your family out for an evening meal.


Getting back to the second Test.

Well, bloody hell, England eventually managed to bat with some pride and have put themselves in a position where it will be hard to lose the game as long as they bat well on day 2. The pitch will become slower and lower as the game progresses and that will make batting difficult over the last day and a half.

I will leave my lay on Australia at present with a possible view of trading out for an all round profit later, in the hope that England continue to bat well.


However, I do not know who is pricing these prop bets up at William Hills, but if they continue to keep dropping "ricks" there may well be a vacancy there soon. This person has no idea.

They made a big mistake on Australia's first innings runs in the first test and they have done so again this time around with England.

Sporting Odds offer 475-490 runs buy or sell so they are saying they expect England tp score 482.5 runs. Bet365 have it 5/6 each of two over / under 484.5, yet Hills offer England's first innings runs at over / under 424.5 with the 'over' trading at 1.67 (4/6).


I jumping in with;

12 units England first innings runs OVER 424.5 @ 1.67


Good Luck

 

[british bulldog]

Another 8 units won to be added to the kitty and a very good possibilty of a further 10 units from laying Australia as it is going to be a monumentous effort to win the game from where they are at present.


That aside, I must say, that in Australia's quest to regain the ashes, they introduced their latest star to the team today ...... BOREDOM. 4 Fielders partrolled the boundary for much of the day and with Warne bowling persistantly outside leg stump and some even close to the adjoining wicket certainly reflected Australia's attitude. That's a real shame and goes against what their emblam on their caps and shirts depict. A Kangaroo and a Emu, both animals that continue to go forward in a fight despite how the outcome is turning out.

Warne's gutless display of negetive bowling after 108 overs of a game scheduled to be played over 450+ highlights the Australian players mindset that this game has passed them by.

Warne's ego has been dented yet again by Pietersen and it further demonstrates that Warne hasn't come up with any abswers against Pietersen in 7 Test's now.


Still, I am happy to be 8 units in front for the second test and am expecting that to become 18 by Tuesday.

 

[PAWAQATSI]

Good hit on the over BB. Well done mate.

 

[phar.lap]

Pietersen is one of the best South African cricketers since Tony Greig.

 

[alb]

I made a mint off of KP's bat for almost 2 years. The value is gone these days.....well has been gone for 6 months because of short prices, injuries and a bit of an exposed weakness (if you can call it that). He is a joy to watch and has become one of my fav players. I really think that England always live or die by him in the batting department. Full credit to Collingwood in this 2nd test but KP is still the man! Funny you mention he is orginally from South Africa....could you imagine him playing for them in that already potent line-up?

Speaking of which....SA is my World cup pick (down to @ 8/1)....also considering Windies (8/1 too short) and Sri Lanka (@ 11/1). Aussies just too short (@ 2/1) even though I assume the best ODI stud 'Symonds' will be there (you know he is England born).


Sorry if I digress....2nd test looks like a certain draw! But that works for me and the Bulldog.

 

[british bulldog]

First up

Phar lap, Pirtersen may be South African but he applied his trade in England for 5 years where his cricket was brought along to the level it was through the coaching. He wasn't getting that in South Africa and was told that he was not likely to be considered for the International team because of the likes of Dippenar and Gibbs keeping him out of any possibility of making an appearence. So he decided to make the move to live in England for 300+ day a year and play county cricket for 5 years.

By the way, we welcome Aussie players to our county clubs, Warne captains Hampshire, McGrath has played for Middlesex. Then there's Hussey, Clarke, McGill, Ponting, Steve and Mark Waugh and so so many more. And only this past summer Somerset welcomed in Langer so he could re-build his confidence after being hit on the head from Nitini.

So just get over your pathetic comment.


Now on to more serious matters. After seeing the amount of rough and the way Warne was turning the ball last night, I am playing 1 unit on Australia at 16.5 just in case England have one of those famous collapse's where they score about 170.

If I am wrong I still have the lay of 5.5 units on Australia to win 10 units so call it an insurance wager.


1 unit Australia @ 16.5 to win Second Test.

 

[phar.lap]

First up

Phar lap, Pirtersen may be South African but he applied his trade in England for 5 years where his cricket was brought along to the level it was through the coaching. He wasn't getting that in South Africa and was told that he was not likely to be considered for the International team because of the likes of Dippenar and Gibbs keeping him out of any possibility of making an appearence. So he decided to make the move to live in England for 300+ day a year and play county cricket for 5 years.

By the way, we welcome Aussie players to our county clubs, Warne captains Hampshire, McGrath has played for Middlesex. Then there's Hussey, Clarke, McGill, Ponting, Steve and Mark Waugh and so so many more. And only this past summer Somerset welcomed in Langer so he could re-build his confidence after being hit on the head from Nitini.

So just get over your pathetic comment.

Obviously a sore point with you champ.

Call me old fashioned, but I think one should play for the country they consider themselves to be part of (not necessarily their place of birth). And Pieterson clearly considers himself a South African (he still lists his favourite team as the Natal Sharks :142smilie ).

Of course, if he cant make his own national team then that completely justifies changing allegiances.

What our cricketers going over there to earn a bit of cash has to do with it is beyond me. But thanks for the laughs.

 

[british bulldog]

Phar lap you are a complete jerk.

We allow Australians and other overseas players over here to play domestic cricket to help some of the younger talent. However, with the point of Langer, the Australian Cricket Board asked the ECB if they would allow Langer to play domestic cricket for six weeks so he could get back into cricket after his serious head injury.

Of course we allowed that, but would Australia have been accomodating if we asked for them to allow Flintoff or Vaughan to play state cricket so they could get back to fitness. If they would have asked, you can guess damn sure the reply would be NO.

As for Pietersen, he is South African but see's himself as an English man as he has resided over here now for seven years and returns to South Africa for less than 3 weeks a year to see family and friends. As for his favourite team the Natal Sharks, he lists those because that was his team he supported when he was a young lad.

By the way, hows your cricket wagering coming on. Close to twenty units profit in two tests are we.

And, just to show that I know what I talk about when it comes to cricket, let's just recap shall we;

"After seeing the amount of rough and the way Warne was turning the ball last night, I am playing 1 unit on Australia at 16.5 just in case England have one of those famous collapse's where they score about 170".


I may have pitched in with 40 more runs, but atleast I preceived that England could collapse with Warne being the key man.

And brave enough to back up my thoughts.

Now just run along and make sure the door doesn't hit you on the back of your head on the way out.

 

[phar.lap]

+20 units....love it. Keep having those 12 unit and 20 unit bets etc. All you need is 1 or 2 winners and you've way ahead!!!!

I love all these guys with multiple unit bets and then claim "I am up 20 units"....brilliant! You've cracked it wide open pal! Bet more, and you win more! Simple! (Note to self: get Stan to multiply all my golf wagers by 20....then I would be up 340 units!! woohoo)

Anyway.....my point was simple (but not simple enough unfortunately). Pieterson is a yarpie playing for England. Fact. Alas, you seem to have taken it as a personal assault on your somewhat frail English ego.

 

[british bulldog]

I have no english ego. you have the problem with a non british ciitizen by birth playing for england. didn't here you winging when australia and plenty of other nations in lets say rugby use non nationalist.

I may stake 20 units and 12 units but my RIO is still way over waht most would deem acceptable.

Just so you dont have to do the maths, my profit ROI is 42% to date.


Out of curiosity, whats your ROI in golf this year?

 

[british bulldog]

RESULTS


3 units Ponting to reach 9,000 career runs in the second Test @ 4.333 LOST -3.00

4 units Ponting to reach 9,000 career runs in the third Test @ 2.625 LOST -4.00


20 units Australia to score 550 or more runs in their first innings @ 1.83 WON +16.66


6 units Shane Warne over 136.5 (player performance) @ 1.833 in First Test at the Gabba LOST -6.00


Lay Australia at 1.55 for 5.5 units. LOST -5.50


12 units England first innings runs OVER 424.5 @ 1.67 WON +8.00


1 unit Australia @ 16.5 to win Second Test. WON +15.50




Staked: 51.50 units

Returns: 73.16 units

Profit: +21.16


ROI: 42%





Outstanding bets:


5 points Australia to win 3-1 @ 6/1
3 points Australia to win 4-1 @ 9/1


Top Australian Series Batsman

2 units R. Ponting @ 13/5 (3.60)
1 unit D. Martyn @ 6/1 (7.00)


Top Australia Bowler Series

4 units S. Warne @ 11/10 (2.10)
1 unit G. McGrath @ 9/2 (5.50)


Top English Series Batsman

2 units A. Strauss @ 13/4 (4.25)
1 unit P. Collingwood @ 7/1 (8.00)


Top English Bowler Series

2 units A. Flintoff @ 14/5 (3.80)
1 unit M. Panesar @ 5/1 (6.00)



So let me see here. I still have possibilities of having the corect series score. Ponting leads the way with runs scored for Australia, Collingwood leads the top english batsman, Both Warne and Flintoff are very much in the running for top bowler of their respective countries. Should be able to turn a profit from here on these and if I was to trade these out now at say Betfair I would return a profit of over 8 units.

 

[phar.lap]

I have no english ego. you have the problem with a non british ciitizen by birth playing for england. didn't here you winging when australia and plenty of other nations in lets say rugby use non nationalist.

I may stake 20 units and 12 units but my RIO is still way over waht most would deem acceptable.

Just so you dont have to do the maths, my profit ROI is 42% to date.


Out of curiosity, whats your ROI in golf this year?

You have a few cows loose in the top paddock champ.

Nonetheless, I do have a problem with rugby players switching allegiances purely because they cant make their own top side. Its pathetic. I have "winged" about that previously.


As for the "my ROI is bigger than your ROI" bit...well, again, thanks for the laughs old boy.(I have no idea why you started ranting on about your betting record....I couldnt give a sh1t)

Apologies for the delay in reply as I was out having a few drinks after dusting off the English again today (good captains dig by Freddie). Pip pip.