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First off I am heading to the event on Friday, is anyone else going? Hopefully I can find a few winners this week. Been in a little bit of a rut :toast:
AT&T National
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During the interview Yocom asked Haney about his relationship after The Masters:
Haney: I talked to him only two times after that. That was his way of blaming me. Maybe I?m reading too much into it; maybe I?m being too sensitive. But when someone doesn?t talk to you?
Golf Digest: You felt the onus was on him to call you?
Haney: Right. I sent him an e-mail on everything I thought he should do and work on. I got no acknowledgement at all, but that wasn?t unusual. Then it got to the point where I didn?t know what he was doing or thinking. Yet the whole time he was telling the media I was still his teacher and that I was going to continue to be his teacher and I was talking to him every night.
Golf Digest: It sounds like it became dysfunctional.
Haney: It didn?t get dysfunctional; it always was dysfunctional.
Golf Digest: Do you feel you went out at the top?
Haney: Absolutely. To come back from five months off this year and finish fourth at Augusta, I don?t think that was too bad. After Augusta, he was on his own.
More on the nature of their relationship:
Golf Digest: What were the demands that came with being Tiger?s coach that the average person might not be aware of?
Haney: One example is, he didn?t plan ahead a lot, and therefore I didn?t plan ahead because I didn?t want people to know his schedule. I would guess when he would be playing, and I?d block my schedule out in case he would call. I never wanted to say I wasn?t available. And in the six years I was with him, I never did say that. Whenever he called me, I was there within 24 hours.
Golf Digest: Can you describe other frustrations?
Haney: Every once in a while I sent him some pretty long e-mails or texts on things I thought he needed to do. I sent one after the 2006 U.S. Open at Winged Foot. Tiger never even acknowledged he got the e-mail. That was just the way he was. He never responded that he even got it. There was one time when Elin told me, ?Hey, Tiger got your e-mail, and he really liked it.?
Golf Digest: Was Tiger generous with you? Did he express his appreciation to you in unusual ways, such as signing flags for you or dropping you notes?
Haney: Generosity is relative. It was generous of him to give me the job. I don?t have anything signed by Tiger, no. Not one thing.
Golf Digest: Did Tiger pay you well?
Haney: I don?t want to answer that. There?s no reason for me to go there.
Golf Digest: It?s been said that Tiger views any association with him as helping that person out. Do you go along with that?
Haney: You said it, I didn?t.
By that last remark, Haney was certainly implying that Woods was tight with the wallet. Interesting comment from Haney considering he said this of being Woods? coach at the beginning of the interview:
It?s not a job. Teaching touring pros has always been, and always will be, a marketing expense. It?s for personal satisfaction, for contributing to history, and for marketing your brand.
So Haney goes from saying that he recognized the huge marketing value of being Tiger?s coach to implying that Woods was cheap.
Haney could?ve taken a complete pass on those questions - or asked that they not be included in the interview. But he didn?t.
For a guy who can thank all of his biggest business and entertainment successes to his association with Tiger, his responses in that context were bad form. Especially after he admitted himself that whatever Woods could pay him would be largely incidental.
Without Woods, no one outside hardcore golf fans would know Haney?s name. He?d have no ?brand? to market. With Woods, Haney?s a celebrity.
Now that I think about it, Haney should?ve been paying Tiger.
Haney: I talked to him only two times after that. That was his way of blaming me. Maybe I?m reading too much into it; maybe I?m being too sensitive. But when someone doesn?t talk to you?
Golf Digest: You felt the onus was on him to call you?
Haney: Right. I sent him an e-mail on everything I thought he should do and work on. I got no acknowledgement at all, but that wasn?t unusual. Then it got to the point where I didn?t know what he was doing or thinking. Yet the whole time he was telling the media I was still his teacher and that I was going to continue to be his teacher and I was talking to him every night.
Golf Digest: It sounds like it became dysfunctional.
Haney: It didn?t get dysfunctional; it always was dysfunctional.
Golf Digest: Do you feel you went out at the top?
Haney: Absolutely. To come back from five months off this year and finish fourth at Augusta, I don?t think that was too bad. After Augusta, he was on his own.
More on the nature of their relationship:
Golf Digest: What were the demands that came with being Tiger?s coach that the average person might not be aware of?
Haney: One example is, he didn?t plan ahead a lot, and therefore I didn?t plan ahead because I didn?t want people to know his schedule. I would guess when he would be playing, and I?d block my schedule out in case he would call. I never wanted to say I wasn?t available. And in the six years I was with him, I never did say that. Whenever he called me, I was there within 24 hours.
Golf Digest: Can you describe other frustrations?
Haney: Every once in a while I sent him some pretty long e-mails or texts on things I thought he needed to do. I sent one after the 2006 U.S. Open at Winged Foot. Tiger never even acknowledged he got the e-mail. That was just the way he was. He never responded that he even got it. There was one time when Elin told me, ?Hey, Tiger got your e-mail, and he really liked it.?
Golf Digest: Was Tiger generous with you? Did he express his appreciation to you in unusual ways, such as signing flags for you or dropping you notes?
Haney: Generosity is relative. It was generous of him to give me the job. I don?t have anything signed by Tiger, no. Not one thing.
Golf Digest: Did Tiger pay you well?
Haney: I don?t want to answer that. There?s no reason for me to go there.
Golf Digest: It?s been said that Tiger views any association with him as helping that person out. Do you go along with that?
Haney: You said it, I didn?t.
By that last remark, Haney was certainly implying that Woods was tight with the wallet. Interesting comment from Haney considering he said this of being Woods? coach at the beginning of the interview:
It?s not a job. Teaching touring pros has always been, and always will be, a marketing expense. It?s for personal satisfaction, for contributing to history, and for marketing your brand.
So Haney goes from saying that he recognized the huge marketing value of being Tiger?s coach to implying that Woods was cheap.
Haney could?ve taken a complete pass on those questions - or asked that they not be included in the interview. But he didn?t.
For a guy who can thank all of his biggest business and entertainment successes to his association with Tiger, his responses in that context were bad form. Especially after he admitted himself that whatever Woods could pay him would be largely incidental.
Without Woods, no one outside hardcore golf fans would know Haney?s name. He?d have no ?brand? to market. With Woods, Haney?s a celebrity.
Now that I think about it, Haney should?ve been paying Tiger.
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Sean O Hair -125 over Dustin Johnson
I think this is a good spot. Dustin isn't accurate off the tee.. there are a lot of doglegs here which will negate his length. His scrambling is also really poor. Hopefully he hasn't recovered from that collapse.
Sean has played well of late, and obviously lives near by.
I think this is a good spot. Dustin isn't accurate off the tee.. there are a lot of doglegs here which will negate his length. His scrambling is also really poor. Hopefully he hasn't recovered from that collapse.
Sean has played well of late, and obviously lives near by.
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Oh yea,
Guys i like to win.. Boo, Davis Love, Jacobsen - This course seems similar to Harbor Town
Guys i like to win.. Boo, Davis Love, Jacobsen - This course seems similar to Harbor Town
This tourney is seeming more dfficult than usual to handicap, so basically I'm just throwing darts.
Verplank 30-1 win, 15-1 place, 7 1/2 show
Van Pelt 30-1 win, 15-1 place, 7 1/2 show
Marino 60-1 win, 30-1 place, 15-1 win
Weekley 80-1 win, 40-1 place, 20-1 show
Best of luck to all of you!
Verplank 30-1 win, 15-1 place, 7 1/2 show
Van Pelt 30-1 win, 15-1 place, 7 1/2 show
Marino 60-1 win, 30-1 place, 15-1 win
Weekley 80-1 win, 40-1 place, 20-1 show
Best of luck to all of you!
O'Hair down to -107 at Pinny, maybe b/c of back
http://www.philly.com/dailynews/breaking/sports/20100630_Back_injury_could_sideline_OHair.html
Always difficult tipping on a new course but I've heard of some compatible courses and will speculate from there.
First pick is Rickie Fowler @ 28/1 with all players being equal as far as course form it is worth a pick seeing as he has taken a liking towards more traditional style courses. This is a very poor field compared to France and if Tiger isn't lurking I don't see anyone Fowler should be afraid of.
Nick Watney 60/1 is next. Expected more this season from Wantney but I'll take a generous 60/1 in this field here as I've heard some comparisons to Quail Hollow and he is a winner there.
Freddie Jacobson 75/1. Freddie finished runner up to Kim at this event in 2008 albeit at Congressional. A par 70 at under 7,000 years should be a nice fit for the J-Man. Form has been very solid this season and should breakthrough soon.
Carl Pettersson 150/1 Backing him again this week after a solid game last week. Pettersson is a shot maker as well and that should serve him well this week.
recap
Fowler 28/1
Watney 60/1
Jacobson 75/1
Pettersson 150/1
Romero 175/1 (no reason, just think odds too big for his talent)
First pick is Rickie Fowler @ 28/1 with all players being equal as far as course form it is worth a pick seeing as he has taken a liking towards more traditional style courses. This is a very poor field compared to France and if Tiger isn't lurking I don't see anyone Fowler should be afraid of.
Nick Watney 60/1 is next. Expected more this season from Wantney but I'll take a generous 60/1 in this field here as I've heard some comparisons to Quail Hollow and he is a winner there.
Freddie Jacobson 75/1. Freddie finished runner up to Kim at this event in 2008 albeit at Congressional. A par 70 at under 7,000 years should be a nice fit for the J-Man. Form has been very solid this season and should breakthrough soon.
Carl Pettersson 150/1 Backing him again this week after a solid game last week. Pettersson is a shot maker as well and that should serve him well this week.
recap
Fowler 28/1
Watney 60/1
Jacobson 75/1
Pettersson 150/1
Romero 175/1 (no reason, just think odds too big for his talent)
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I noticed the line was going crazy, after i posted it went to -140 then completely the other way.
Anyway, Dustin Johnson -107 over Sean O hair
Hedged out.
Although from the sound of things the rough is bad here.
Here are my darts this week
Jacobson 50-1 50 units
Cejka 80-1 50 units
Senden 100-1 50 units
i threw out yes i did allenby lol,and moore
glta this week. We have our first ultrasound thursday at 1:40.Will it be another boy or shall i get the ladies clubs ready....stay tuned...
Jacobson 50-1 50 units
Cejka 80-1 50 units
Senden 100-1 50 units
i threw out yes i did allenby lol,and moore
glta this week. We have our first ultrasound thursday at 1:40.Will it be another boy or shall i get the ladies clubs ready....stay tuned...
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Outrights
ODDS TO WIN THE AT&T NATIONAL RICKY BARNES +2200
ODDS TO WIN THE AT&T NATIONAL RYAN MOORE +3300
ODDS TO WIN THE AT&T NATIONAL DAVIS LOVE III +5000
Round 1 Match Up
B MOLDER -120 (C RILEY vrs B MOLDER)
4 Round Match Ups
S O'HAIR -115 (D JOHNSON vrs S O'HAIR)
B DE JONGE -120 (B DE JONGE vrs M JONES)
D LOVE III +105 (D TOMS vrs D LOVE III)
ODDS TO WIN THE AT&T NATIONAL RICKY BARNES +2200
ODDS TO WIN THE AT&T NATIONAL RYAN MOORE +3300
ODDS TO WIN THE AT&T NATIONAL DAVIS LOVE III +5000
Round 1 Match Up
B MOLDER -120 (C RILEY vrs B MOLDER)
4 Round Match Ups
S O'HAIR -115 (D JOHNSON vrs S O'HAIR)
B DE JONGE -120 (B DE JONGE vrs M JONES)
D LOVE III +105 (D TOMS vrs D LOVE III)
Outrights:
Ricky Barnes(40/1) e.w.
Sean O'Hair(22/1) e.w.
Davis Love(70/1) e.w.
Brett Quigley(300/1) e.w.
GL
Ricky Barnes(40/1) e.w.
Sean O'Hair(22/1) e.w.
Davis Love(70/1) e.w.
Brett Quigley(300/1) e.w.
GL
The AT&T National : 1st Rd 18 Hole Matchups.
The AT&T National : 1st Rd 18 Hole Matchups.
The AT&T National --
Tournament Matchups for 18 holes only
for the First Round on Thursday, July 1st.
Afternoon matches for the second pairings.
Matchups between 12:23 and 1:07 pm.
Five Units :
Ben Crane over John Senden @ - 125. Won by 2.
Bo Van Pelt over DJ Trahan @ - 135. Won by 5.
Four Units :
Robert Allenby over Dustin Johnson @ + 110. Won by 1.
Ricky Barnes over Vaughn Taylor @ - 150. Push.
Three Units :
Stuart Appleby over Jerry Kelly @ + 105. Won by 3.
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The AT&T National : 1st Rd 18 Hole Matchups.
The AT&T National --
Tournament Matchups for 18 holes only
for the First Round on Thursday, July 1st.
Afternoon matches for the second pairings.
Matchups between 12:23 and 1:07 pm.
Five Units :
Ben Crane over John Senden @ - 125. Won by 2.
Bo Van Pelt over DJ Trahan @ - 135. Won by 5.
Four Units :
Robert Allenby over Dustin Johnson @ + 110. Won by 1.
Ricky Barnes over Vaughn Taylor @ - 150. Push.
Three Units :
Stuart Appleby over Jerry Kelly @ + 105. Won by 3.
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