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Let's get the discussion going a little early. Obviously looking to rebound from a catastrophic effort, at least on my 72 hole matchups.
Looking at the field, there are a ton of question marks next to the top guys in the field..
How sharp is Padraigs game?
How will Vijay return from surgery?
This is also Furk's first event of the year..
Mickelson has shown me absolutely nothing in his first 2 events, his putting has been atrocious.

I'm sure Mallinger will get his fair share of notoriety, 2 3rd place finishes, and living near Pebble.

A little surprised Glover isn't in the field, he has shown great strides this year.
 

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All those observations right on, Derrick, and I've pondered those same things.

This is one of the old great tournaments with a lot of history. Today, it just seems not so special anymore, The really good guys don't all feel a need to have it on their schedule. I remember back in the mid sixties when Spyglass came on board, it was hardest course in America. It was the most difficult layout I ever played up to and including now! Par 72, rated 73, unheard of by me at the time. Today, the pros tear it up.

These guys popped up during the capping session I had Sat. and Sun, since I was already out of action, losing badly last week.
Jason Day, Hart, Gore, Harrington

I'm not at all happy with this group. Day has no chance and will probably make the cut, that's it. Hart, too old but has great game here, top 10. Gore, good past record here, and decent start this year. Pod, has legs and seems ready to contend, no odds though I bet.

Where's Tony Lema and Bobby Clampett when you need them.

The fade list this week is Sutherland, a home game for him this week, Elk, both Wilsons, and Mick. Lefty is going to stay on the fade list until he shows me something. He is in danger of falling into my permanent fade list.

Tommy's forever fade list is made of Els, Goosen, Daly, Couples, Coceres, Gamez, Funk, Begay, and others I can't think of right now. DL3 is the only recent guy to get off the permanent fade list.

More later, I'm willing to argue or discuss.
 

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Guys who should be looked at this week..
  • Dustin Johnson
  • Hunter Mahan
  • Matt Goggin

Will add thoughts here as the week goes on.
 

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Guys who should be looked at this week..
  • Dustin Johnson
  • Hunter Mahan
  • Matt Goggin

Will add thoughts here as the week goes on.

I looked at them, and I didn't think much of them. Except I like Goggin's game, maybe not here but in general I like him. Matt is going to be a winner, this year I believe. Dustin and Hunter, I don't know, I don't think so.

But good luck with those picks. If I don't win with my pick, I sincerely hope you win.
 

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Odds at SIA

No one can say I don't stick my neck out.

Jason Day 125-1
Dudley Hart 110-1
Jason Gore 200-1
Harrington 14-1

Here's my choice for the Crosby
Hart, Hart and more Hart 111.00

I was going to go with Gore, but Hart plays these courses better. GLTU.
 

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Did you see Gore play last week? After most of his swings he would cringe due to his back pain. I am sure he can get treatment on it this week and he maybe back to 100%, but just a word of caution.
 

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Did you see Gore play last week? After most of his swings he would cringe due to his back pain. I am sure he can get treatment on it this week and he maybe back to 100%, but just a word of caution.

+1

Not sure what the books are doing, they need to post lines soon, since this is a 5 day event.
 

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err, no it isn't :shrug:

Had me scatching my head there for 2nd also :)

I know you were quite a competative player before injury in college Stan and student of the golf swing and would like your (or others) thoughts on Villegas golf swing.
I am amazed myself of his consistency of what I consider very unsound golf swing. Made 86% of cuts last year and continuing to fire on all cyliders in 09.
 

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Outrights:

doing a 180 on my initial thoughts and going with these:

Furyk 14-1 L
Tim Clark 17-1 L
John Mallinger 50-1 L

72 Holes:
Furyk ov Harrington -110 W
Dustin Johnson ov Webb Simpson -115 W
Clark -105 ov Perry L
Furyk ov Mickelson -110 W

Really wanted to play Tim Clark as well, but he's matched up with Kenny Perry who I think will play well, so I will look to back Clark in some 18 hole matchups, hopefully.

Rd 1 plays

Tim herron -125 ov Parnevik W
Love -110 ov Mahan W
Furyk -190 ov Dimarco L :mad:

Rd 2 plays
Love -110 ov Mahan L
Wi -125 ov Matteson W
Sheehan +130 ov Duke L

Rd 3
Garrigus -150 ov Quigley L
McGinnely +180 ov Harrington L
Perry -160 ov Holmes W

adding

Dustin Johnson to win 7-1 (wsex) W

Rd 4 plays:

O'hair -140 Maruyama cxcld
Johnson -105 ov Estes cxcld
Perry -130 ov Hoffman cxcld

a wtf parlay
johnson -105 ov estes cxcld
perry -130 ov hoffman
o'hair -140 ov Maruyama
Wi +115 ov Kuchar

1 unit to win 11
 
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Had me scatching my head there for 2nd also :)

I know you were quite a competative player before injury in college Stan and student of the golf swing and would like your (or others) thoughts on Villegas golf swing.
I am amazed myself of his consistency of what I consider very unsound golf swing. Made 86% of cuts last year and continuing to fire on all cyliders in 09.

:mj07: :mj07: I must have misremembered.

Anyway Dogs i was having that conversation with a buddy. I can't see him playing 5 or 6 more years with that swing, he is going to have serious back problem. The swing looks fine to me on the take back, there is just no finesse in it at all.
Last year his ball striking stats were poor, it was his putting that saved his game. I think he has more competitive drive than Anthony kim, just less god gifted talent. That being said I am not that impressed with any of these so called young guns. Kim has never finished ahead of Tiger in a event. I am interested in seeing this Japanese kid at Riviera next week, as well as seeing Rory M play over in America.

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I know you were quite a competative player before injury in college Stan and student of the golf swing and would like your (or others) thoughts on Villegas golf swing.
I am amazed myself of his consistency of what I consider very unsound golf swing. Made 86% of cuts last year and continuing to fire on all cyliders in 09.

I am of the same opinion, but I see a lot of swings like that on Tour nowadays. A lot of young players are coming through with 'power swings' as (i) the courses are increasing being set up with length the primary consideration; and (ii) the sharpness of club grooves is enabling more spin to be attained when not on the fairway.

It will be very interesting see how players like Villegas fair from next season when the new rules on grooves come into force. With that swing, he shouldn't be a good driver of the ball and he isn't.

Like Tiger and Faldo before him, if he is going to win on a really tough course or in a major, he is going to have to learn to control his swing better. He may have to do so next year anyway.
 

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72 holes---

O Hair over Trajan -110
Love3 over Perry -110
Mallinger over N. Thompson -110

Off and on rain all week, I saw on the news this morning.
 

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played 2 at pinnacle ... m weir -130 vs r goosen and k sutherland -150 vs k duke ... gl

You got really good lines on these. Duke sucks on the west coast. i lean both ways.. but the juice might be too much

Jesus 5 dimes opening lines are all like -150 and -170

why not match 2 even guys together
 

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Baddeley's Caddie Happy To Be Back
After undergoing treatment for throat cancer, Pete Bender has returned to looping

By Tim Rosaforte

February 5, 2009
LA JOLLA, Ca. -- Pete Bender graduated from a lightweight carry bag to the full-blown red Adams Golf tour bag this week at the Buick Invitational. Standing behind the scoring trailer on the North course at Torrey Pines on Thursday, the veteran caddie proudly pointed out that his player, Aaron Baddeley, signed for an opening-round 66 in the Buick Invitational. "I'm pretty tired at night, but its so nice to be out here," Bender said, beaming. "I count my blessings."

Diagnosed with throat cancer shortly after Baddeley's loss in 20 holes to Tiger Woods in last February's WGC-Accenture Match Play Championship, Bender lost 50 pounds from the ensuing chemotherapy and radiation treatment. He spent 62-straight days in a hospital near his home in Sacramento, Ca., unable to eat. Baddeley stayed in constant contact while also dealing with his own medical hardship at home; his wife, Richelle, struggled through a tough pregnancy with the couple's first child, and was bedridden for 20 weeks.

But the Baddeleys had their daughter, Jewel, in November. And around Christmas, Aaron called Pete to see if he was ready to go back out on tour. "I said, I don't think I can make it by the West Coast," Bender said. "He really wanted me to come to Phoenix, because it was his hometown. I said I'd come, if you can give me the small bag."

The 59-year-old Bender won British Opens with Greg Norman (1986) and Ian Baker-Finch (1991). He lists 28 tour victories in a 38-year tour career. Ray Floyd, Jack Nicklaus, Lanny Wadkins and Hal Sutton have employed Bender. Last year's U.S. Open at Torrey Pines had special meaning; before Baddeley, he carried Rocco Mediate's clubs for six years.

At that point, a comeback seemed unlikely. He stepped off tour to begin treatments after Baddeley lost to Tiger Woods in 20 holes at the Accenture Match Play last February. "I had second thoughts when I dropped to 128 pounds [in July]," he said. "I knew I had to get out of that hospital though. I went 62 days without eating. I was in a hospital for two months living on IVs. I had to get out of the hospital; I was so depressed."

To live at home, Bender had to live with a backpack and an IV that would circulate liquid food through his system. Every morning he went to a clinic to have it changed out. "It was stuff for fattening and vitamins to put in me to keep me going, because they didn't want me to lose any more weight," Bender said. "I took that for two months and finally I got the urge to eat, and that was scary. I was shaking because I hadn't had any food down me in so long I was afraid I was going to choke. All the skin peeled off my neck. That radiation for eight straight weeks did it to me. I have no taste buds. I can't swallow anything. I live on soup and protein drinks every day."

Now he's back living on adrenaline, too, as Baddeley positions himself on a leaderboard in this country for the first time since a playoff loss in last year's Verizon Heritage. Maybe it's not coincidental seeing how the Australian has his support group around him. Traveling without Richelle and Bender last year, Baddeley admits now he was unhappy. After last week's home game, the trip to California was the first one on tour with his wife and baby.

"It's the same old Pete," Baddeley said. "He hasn't changed. He likes to joke around and he's also good at what he does. He's straight back on the horse."
 

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:scared Too much info, abc;)

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This play is too good to pass up. I thought about just putting it in a parlay, but decided just to bet it for 2 units. Sutherland cashed for most of us last week, and we are looking for more this week. Duke is brutal on the west coast, check his history. For some reason I remember this quote.. yet can't remember how many rounds this event is..
Q. Has it been fun, as fun for you this year as it was last year?
KEN DUKE: Last year was great. Coming off the Nationwide and coming on the TOUR, I kind of pushed myself early and struggled, but after I kind of got into a little groove, it was really fun.
I came out this year, go out west again and just struggled. I struggle every year out west, just get off to bad starts and then just fight my swing. Nothing wrong with it, it's just not trusting what I know how to do like I did last year
Not sure if its the weather, the courses, the grass, or just that he doesn't practice much in the offseason, but lets see if another Fresno St guy can go back to back in Cali.

Sutherland -165 :( over Ken Duke (Tournament)
 
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