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wondo

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This isn't trying to start trouble. It's a sincere question.

You like to mention that you get 'inside information' from your friends that play sports at college in the the pros. I think that word, "inside info" turns people off intially, but I understand how you are using it.

However, my question is this. What makes these people qualified to make a prediction against the spread?

I have countless number of friends playing at the pro level and quite honestly they would be the last ones I'd turn to when asking handicapping questions. I think of them as analogous to the good coach who wasn't a good player, and how most elite players don't make good coaches.

Most of the professional athletes I know don't follow the other teams in their sport that closely, and their opinions are jaded because of their close personal ties to other people in the sport.

In amateur sports, how often do can you remember how you thought your best friend should have been playing more than he did? Not because objectively he deserved the spot, but because he was your friend, you automatically assume that he deserved it. Athetes do the same thing when their friend is pitching or QBing a team.

In my opinion, the only inside information athletes can offer is if someones hurt or the morale on the team is low. And those things are immoral to do and are part of what makes the gambling world look bad to outsiders. I don't think that pro athletes have a good objective opinion on anything that would help gambling matters.

Obviously, you have had a different experience with this as you seem to rely on them greatly to provide you with insight not found elsewhere. Just wondered how you felt they helped you and if you really believe that they're knowledgable in what they say, any more so than the regular person on the street who follows sports.
 

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Your question is a very good question, and I will offer the following response.

To no one's surprise college athletes are aware of the spread in their games. In fact also some college athletes bet on games, and this was told to me by a good source.
They are qualified to give not so much inside information, but they have relevant information on certain teams in their division or teams that they have played against. They can't pick all the bowl games correctly, as many of their picks have no better chance of winning than any capper. My inside info came heavy on MIAMI vs Nebraska, because 4 players, 3 on Syracuse and 1 on Florida have played against them , and they experieced the SPEED and TALENT of Miami live. I tried to share my info with everyone, but only some cappers realized that what I was saying makes sense. I also got a tip on Florida that they would beat maryland easy. Announcers of are all making big money announcing, but they bet because of inside info which makes their winning % a lot higher than a regular capper. I have used my inside info on games involved in the Big East, and SEC, and have correctly predicted an amazing % of winners.

The difference is in Pro athletes are all making millions, they don't bet, and aren't as concerned with the point spread. Teams use the Underdog role as a tool to motivate teams, but it ends there. Pro teams kneel the ball down at the end of games, while college teams try to score more points in certain situations.
 
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I agree with what you're saying just not how you're saying it. I don't see a comment made by another player about Florida's speed or Miami's speed as being 'inside info' Maybe it's just that those two words turn me off as much as someone saying 'lock.' But it does give additional perspective on the game. Thanks for the reply and good luck these playoffs.
 

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I am an old fart that has been gambling for more than 40 years. During that time, I have been friends with almost every major jockey, trainer, announcer and some clockers on the Southern California Racing circuit. With FEW exceptions, their inside information is atrocious. The trainers that play games with their horses can occasionally spring a surprise. I can tell you that if you were the bookie for all the jockeys and trainers, you would be wealthy.
 
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i completely agree with you -- almost said more about it but decided not to..... completely agree with you, ferdville. i don't want to get into a discussion about it, but there is some truly inside info (not pedro martinez talking about mike mussina) but real inside info that necessitates players and other personnel not betting on their sport, in particular, for OR against their own team.
 

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none of what Bains says he has is inside info......inside info is stuff not available to the public......injuries not reported and etc........

everyone knows how fast teams and strong teams are....it is public knowledge.....you don't have to be a player to know that......good grief.....

i have only come across a couple pieces of inside info......one is that Crouch was hurt at the end of last season which was kept under the rug as much as possible but feeling much better in the Alamo bowl and the other being i overheard some boxing trainer dude talking to holyfields trainer about holyfields hand which was injured before his last fight and they kept that under the table.......that is inside info.....what Bains posted is not......nor is knowing a "tip" or whatever that is......that is just an opinion passed along......
 
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