Bears - my 2 cents

[Mags]

For all you Bears backers....
If they were such a strong team, and not a lucky team as I would contend, why do you think:

Given that they are leading the NFC central, and

1. Hosting GB in Chicago a couple of weeks ago, GB was a 2.5 to 3 point FAVORITE on CHICAGO's Home Field?
2. And, when Chicago visits Green Bay this Sunday, Green Bay will be a 6 to 7 point FAV?

It seems like the oddsmakers surely know who the better team ...

 

[BahamaMama]

and my 3 cents

i have never said the bears are some sort of *super team* this year, as they were in the mid 80's, but they somehow ARE finding a way to win, and as long as they can continue to do that, they will go to the SB...... just like anyone else, they have to lose before they're out of the playoff's, huh? .... (and no, i would NEVER bet on this happening....LOL, but still happy while they're winning)

now lets look at your pack as favorite comment..... seems to me, if you look back over the past couple of years, GB wins at Soldier, and Chicago wins at Lambeau

So far, the past 5 meetings between the 2 teams point to a Bear win in GB, but the playing of the game will have to determine that....
Cuz on any given Sunday...........and you know the rest.

as far as the linesmakers being *right* on the call of the spread, of who is the better team, would you like to explain to me why the bears have only been favored in 4 of their games, yet have NINE wins? (don't know this for sure, but guessing they covered the spread in at least half of them) seems to me they don't know so well who is the better team....


GO BEARS, I want my hat from YYZ

but still have to find out if the *total points scored* we went with, would include playoffs, also, should they happen to meet...I don't remember the terms of the bet (regular season, or *season*)

 

[chicago1bears]

mags- and the oddsmakers are never wrong huh? Your post makes no sense- you say the bears are bad because they are underdogs against the Packers. Ha. Who cares what Vegas thinks of them. Bottom line: we are 9-2 and in first place. And right now the #1 seed in the playoffs. Go Jags tonight!!

Go Bears

 

[Mags]

Well, the Pack won a lucky one last night, setting up a huge showdown this Sunday with the Bears.

I guess it is safe to say most folks would say the Packers are the better team - the odds makers are just an example...

But I guess we'll see on Sunday?!? Pack wins, they go 2-0 on the Bears this year, putting the question to rest... The Bears win, well then it is still in doubt I guess.

 

[Mags]

Bahama,
Your right in the Bears have been exciting for Bears backers this year...
Your comment about winning 9 times while only being favored 4 times - they certainly have been a money maker....
Put yourself in the position of having bet against the Bears (Cleveland, SF games to name 2) - at that point you'd realize how lucky the Bears were to win and cover - both those games were 2 of the worst bad beats of the year for football betters - when those things happen and you're a Bear Fan, you know God is smiling on you

(no, I wasn't on the Browns or 49'ers those weeks - thank God)...

 

[BahamaMama]

Originally posted by Mags:
Bahama,
Your right in the Bears have been exciting for Bears backers this year...
Your comment about winning 9 times while only being favored 4 times - they certainly have been a money maker....
Put yourself in the position of having bet against the Bears (Cleveland, SF games to name 2) - at that point you'd realize how lucky the Bears were to win and cover - both those games were 2 of the worst bad beats of the year for football betters - when those things happen and you're a Bear Fan, you know God is smiling on you

(no, I wasn't on the Browns or 49'ers those weeks - thank God)...

Mags, you trying to tell me here, that when the bears stage a magnificent comeback that it's only luck, but when the packers pull one out of their butts last night, partially due to officiating, then THEY are the better team?


(edit) oops, i do see, above where you are saying the pack got lucky last night......, sorry)



[This message has been edited by BahamaMama (edited 12-04-2001).]

 

[Valuist]

For all the garbage that has been posted how "lucky" the Bears have been, here (finally) are the facts:

vs San Fran:
First Downs: edge Chicago 29-20
Total Yards: edge Chicago 364-350
Turnovers: Bears minus 1

vs Cleveland:
First Downs: edge Chicago 29-12
Total Yards: edge Chicago 413-261
Turnovers: Bears minus 3

Lucky teams are teams that get by largely on turnovers, where the ball bounces their way on fumbles and INTS. Against Cleveland, during the first 58 minutes, Cleveland got EVERY break, returning a fumble for a cheapie TD and then catching a deflected pass and taking it 65 yards for another cheapie TD. Against San Francisco, the Bears had a TD negated by a penalty. Yeah, sure ESPN showed you the OT highlights, but once again, they neglected to tell you the whole story.

 

[Mags]

Valuist,
Point taken in those 2 games... first down stats are interesting... just kinda show that Bears should be good under plays, as based on the 1st downs/yardage stats, it takes them a lot of plays to get the yardage, with their 3 yds/cloud of dust and very short passing game.
It will be interesting to see if they open it up at all Sunday, given the 1st time they played the Pack they did not throw the ball downfield at all..... we'll see!

 

[Valuist]

Whats been strange about this series is the road team has won every game since the beginning of 1999. Actually, the Bears could've easily lost this past week and their passing game hasn't been sharp the past 2 weeks. Strange they had success throwing vs Tampa but couldn't vs the Vikes and Lions. Favre looked good last night but GB's running game has been problematic and now they come back after a short week. I'm guessing the line is GB by 5, maybe 6.