Bellator 33: Oct 21st, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

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Fight Card
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Eddie Alvarez vs. Roger Huerta
Lyman Good vs. Ben Askren
Rick Hawn vs. LeVon Maynard
Deividas Taurosevicius vs. Wilson Reis
Jamal Patterson vs Tim Carpenter
Edward Gueddes vs Chris Liguori
Kenny Foster vs Lester Caslow
Daniel Tavares vs Will Martinez
Nick Cottone vs Tuan Pham
Lewis Cassner vs Fran Evans




No word yet if Huerta will have that dude he beat-down on street in his corner. After all he is now Huerta's bitch:00x6
 

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MMA Record (since UFC 58)
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Prop Bet 38-57
Fighter vs. Fighter 226-356
Parlays 98-162

-21.86 Joe Rogans



Lyman Good beat Ben Askren $3.30 (+230) *1 Joe Rogan

I don't think Lyman Good should be this big an underdog. I mean he is worth a shot at those odds:0039
 

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Took Askren when the line first came out

Askren is more active and faced the better opponents
 

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I agree on the Askren pick. I'm going to look for some pars to put him in but I think he's a safe enough bet that I'll make a straight bet on him as well.
 

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askren or nothing for me......can`t pass up these great wrestlers....and this guy just might be the best....

what he did to hornbuckle was downright criminal...

just can`t pass askren up......
 

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I can't believe Huerta is a two to 1 dog here. The competition he has fought compared to Eddie isn't even close and Huerta was in everyone of those fights. If Huerta had just a little more power i would be all over him. I thought his fight was very close with Maynard who happens to be fighting for the championship pretty soon. Eddie is my homeboy but man those odds are juicy. This is a close fight and Eddie gets reckless at times.
 

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I can't believe Huerta is a two to 1 dog here. The competition he has fought compared to Eddie isn't even close and Huerta was in everyone of those fights. If Huerta had just a little more power i would be all over him. I thought his fight was very close with Maynard who happens to be fighting for the championship pretty soon. Eddie is my homeboy but man those odds are juicy. This is a close fight and Eddie gets reckless at times.

I agree. These odds have made it tempting to play Huerta but I won't. I see Eddie as the better striker, wrestler and submission guy but Huerta has a TON of heart and is well rounded, but not great in any particular aspect. The difference in competition is not that huge. Huerta has faced Guida, Florian, Garcia, Maynard and Curren while Eddie has faced Aoki, Kawajri, Hansen(a good win at that time).

I just wonder how much Huerta wants it. Does he want to be an actor or a fighter. I See this going the distance
 

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i have a high opinion of alvarez ......if you doubt him vs huerta,just think about alvarez fighting leonard garcia.....he knocks him out or subs him....

imo,alvarez is the real deal...he can k.o. you,sub you or out wrestle you....

he lost to aoki in japan and a big 170 pounder in nick thompson(that fight was crazy to watch...it looked so odd with the size differential).....

love the alvarez/askren par...
 

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i have a high opinion of alvarez ......if you doubt him vs huerta,just think about alvarez fighting leonard garcia.....he knocks him out or subs him....

imo,alvarez is the real deal...he can k.o. you,sub you or out wrestle you....

he lost to aoki in japan and a big 170 pounder in nick thompson(that fight was crazy to watch...it looked so odd with the size differential).....

love the alvarez/askren par...

but who has he really fought? He gets really reckless at times wanting the fans to get their money's worth. Weasel u are going back five years with Garcia. Garcia got pummeled that fight and would have gotten killed if Huerta had some power. have we ever seen Huerta get blown out? All his losses are pretty close against huge names. I know one thing, Eddie isn't gonna fight him like Curran did. Even on inside MMA Eddie said he hopes Huerta brings it to a point that the fight will always be remembered. Laying two to one on someone who goes balls to the wall is to risky for my blood. Gonna be a nice one to watch.
 

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but who has he really fought? He gets really reckless at times wanting the fans to get their money's worth. Weasel u are going back five years with Garcia. Garcia got pummeled that fight and would have gotten killed if Huerta had some power. have we ever seen Huerta get blown out? All his losses are pretty close against huge names. I know one thing, Eddie isn't gonna fight him like Curran did. Even on inside MMA Eddie said he hopes Huerta brings it to a point that the fight will always be remembered. Laying two to one on someone who goes balls to the wall is to risky for my blood. Gonna be a nice one to watch.

you keep saying how alvarez has fought nobody...

who has huerta beaten?...guida?.....guida`s great now?....and he was getting tooled in that fight and pulled it out late...

that`s his best win...he lost to guilliard...

who has the guy beaten aside from guida?....

alvarez has beaten hansen and kawajiri....and he beat toby imada(who actually beat pat curran even though he somehow got screwed by the judges)...

that`s the same pat curran who beat huerta....and imada,if rightfully given the decision over curran,had beaten 12 of his last 13 opponents(his lone loss via sub to....eddie alvarez)......

i don`t get your argument....

huerta could win....it`s mma...whichever way this swings,i`m convinced that the right guy is the favorite...
 
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you keep saying how alvarez has fought nobody...

who has huerta beaten?...guida?.....guida`s great now?....and he was getting tooled in that fight and pulled it out late...

that`s his best win...he lost to guilliard...

who has the guy beaten aside from guida?....

alvarez has beaten hansen and kawajiri....and he beat toby imada(who actually beat pat curran even though he somehow got screwed by the judges)...

that`s the same pat curran who beat huerta....and imada,if rightfully given the decision over curran,had beaten 12 of his last 13 opponents(his lone loss via sub to....eddie alvarez)......

i don`t get your argument....

huerta could win....it`s mma...whichever way this swings,i`m convinced that the right guy is the favorite...

Some might say he beat Maynard. The number two guy in the world. Curran beat him? If he did it was barely cause i thought Huerta might have got jobbed in that one. The point is that nobody beat the balls off him and i only think i ever saw him get hurt once (Guida) and he came back and won.. Guida is now a stiff? Florian didn't do much with Huerta either. 2 to 1 odds?
 

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Even though Roger Huerta has struggled of late, Eddie Alvarez believes the UFC veteran will be at his best when they fight Thursday at Bellator 33.

?That?s usually when you perform your best -- when you?re the underdog,? Alvarez said last week during an episode of ?The Savage Dog Show? on the Sherdog Radio Network. ?I?m expecting the best Roger Huerta possible. That?s what I trained for.?

Huerta has lost three of his last four, but his overall record is still a strong one at 21-4-1. He is 1-1 in Bellator. The promotion likely expected him to win its season two lightweight tournament and set up a showdown for Alvarez?s 155-pound title. That went awry when Huerta lost a unanimous decision to Pat Curran in May, but now that Curran is injured, the anticipated Huerta-Alvarez matchup is coming together after all in the form of a non-title bout.

?He didn?t join with Bellator to take a backseat,? Alvarez said. ?He joined Bellator to be their marquee guy, just like the UFC was trying to promote him. Immediately he became a threat to me. He?s been unfortunate in his last couple of outings, but that?s what makes him even more dangerous. He has nothing to lose, zero to lose.?

Huerta has said losing to Alvarez would end up ?killing? his career. Alvarez is not sympathetic.

?I?m going to get in his face like nobody?s got in his face before,? Alvarez said. ?I?m going to finish him. I don?t think there?s going to be a part of the fight where Roger?s dominant. I want to get right after him and beat him like nobody?s beaten him.?

Huerta is also promising a barnburner. Last week he said not to expect a technical fight, suggesting he?d be more than happy to scrap and scramble. Alvarez has a plan for the scrambling part in particular.

?I already got it taken care of. Don?t even sweat it,? he said. ?There?ll be no scrambling going on. ? You?ll see it in the fight, a couple little moves we?ve been working on to shut all that down, shut all that scrambling down, all that moving around. We?re going to shut him down.?

Despite his reputation for having heavy hands, Alvarez has won five straight via submission. That?s no accident after the back-and-forth bouts he went through in 2008 against opponents like Tatsuya Kawajiri and Joachim Hansen.

?I got in a lot of battles in ?08,? Alvarez said. ?A lot, a lot of battles, and I think it took years off my fight career. I needed to ease up a little bit and try to get out of some of these things unscathed so I can last a little longer in the sport.?
(Didn't think Eddie thought like that. Good for him.)

Fans will be watching for another battle Thursday. The fight will likely be the biggest in Bellator?s young history, and the fact that it?s taking place at the Liacouras Center in Alvarez?s hometown of Philadelphia should deliver a strong live audience. Alvarez expects to sell more than 1,000 tickets himself and hundreds of T-shirts.

?When you see it on TV, you?re going to see a massive amount of people in the same-colored T-shirt,? Alvarez said. ?It?s going to be something magical.?

The matchup won?t generate anywhere near the attention of UFC 121 on Saturday, but Alvarez makes a good argument as to why his meeting with Huerta shouldn?t be missed. It?s not $44.95, for one. Fans who have Fox Sports Net will be able to watch the No. 6-ranked lightweight in the world at no extra cost, and his opponent is a gamer.

?We fight,? Alvarez said. ?If there?s two guys in MMA who go out and put it all out there, it?s us two. We fight and we don?t give up.?

Listen to the full interview (beginning at 1:23:20) with Alvarez, who also discusses training with UFC lightweight champion Frankie Edgar and a potential matchup with Strikeforce titleholder Gilbert Melendez.
 

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During the weigh-ins, some guy was screaming at Askren "THIS IS MMA, NOT WRESTLING !"
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He is super effective, but fans don't like this guy....polarizing figure
 

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Askren:
"Lyman couldn't even stand the heat of the stare down what's he gonna do when I bring it tomorrow."
:142smilie
 

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i was reading that good`s ace in the hole was his wrestling.....

that`s not a good thing....

""Good's biggest strength as a fighter is his ability to wrestle. Unfortunately for Good he is facing a two-time champion at the highest collegiate level. Askren is a much better grappler, he controls where this fight takes place. Askren should be able to takedown Good and dominate him positionally. Goodis not a stiff by any means he should provide trouble for Askren early, but the year long lay-off hurts him. If Good can somehow keep the fight standing he should be able to bust up Askren a bit. I can't pick against Askren though, his superior grappling skills should be enough to get him a win at Bellator 33. I got Ben Askren getting a submission in round 4 and capturing the Bellator Welterweight belt."

and again,i had bonnar over coleman....:lol:
 

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I think:

Alvarez SUB
It's great that Huerta KO'ed that thug in the streets, but while Roger is living it up, partying all night, Eddie is training. Full time fighter beats part time fighter.

Askren 30-27 (3x)
Askren is one cocky kid, but it seems like his wrestling is just too solid to lose here. Hard not to root for Good though, who seems like a real great guy. I think dude was basically homeless and living in the gym.

:0corn
 
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Wow - Didn't know Askren was favorite until today, Good is best value on the card but I will be cheering for Askren.
 

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I think:

Alvarez SUB
It's great that Huerta KO'ed that thug in the streets, but while Roger is living it up, partying all night, Eddie is training. Full time fighter beats part time fighter.

:0corn

Only way Alvarez wins by sub is technical submission. No way Huerta taps. Check out the Maynard kimura
 

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Only way Alvarez wins by sub is technical submission. No way Huerta taps. Check out the Maynard kimura

We will know soon
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Big fight for both guys
I just seen one guy living and breathing his profession, and the other guy with his interests elsewhere.
 
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