Best play I have seen in awhile

[almly]

5dimes has Cotto at only -210 to beat Margarito.
Cotto is a class above Margarito - who is a seriously overrated fighter. Margarito has no chance in my opinion. I am all over this.

 

[Kramden]

5dimes has Cotto at only -210 to beat Margarito.
Cotto is a class above Margarito - who is a seriously overrated fighter. Margarito has no chance in my opinion. I am all over this.

Good luck. You'll need it. :mj07:

 

[rawli007]

I picked up Cotto at -185 (bodoglife)...

Lets cash it. :0corn

 

[frank s.]

MGM-Mirage opened up Cotto-130. Guess that would have given you a chubby big time, eh?

 

[pfcwintergreen]

I don't think Cotto at -210 is a very good value. The value is going to be Margarito, once more and more people pile up on the Cotto bandwagon.

 

[weepaul]

I don't think Cotto at -210 is a very good value. The value is going to be Margarito, once more and more people pile up on the Cotto bandwagon.

I agree bud. Margarito will be a last minute play for me. I believe that is when the odds will be at there best for Margo.

 

[rawli007]

MGM-Mirage opened up Cotto-130. Guess that would have given you a chubby big time, eh?

This is why i need to move to Vegas :00hour

I think Cotto is gonna light him up... hes not afraid to get inside.. If Margarito wants to trade, Cotto will take that Pepsi challenge and run w/ it... and probably break Margo's jaw at some point.

...odds r good on Margo, though.. he does have a chance.. i guess.. and he has the same birthday as me which could be good luck for him

 

[pfcwintergreen]

I think its safe to say Margarito will want to trade. Cotto's advantages are in his boxing ability and speed...he throws away his chances if he just stands next to Margo slugs it out with him.

For all his faults..Margarito's greatest advantage is simply being extremely tough. Almost Jake Lamotta tough. Which is why he can walk through bombs from people like Cintron. In an all out slugfest, I just don't see him losing out. Maybe from a perfect Cotto body shot, but thats about it

He could certainly be outboxed, though.

 

[gardenweasel]

I think its safe to say Margarito will want to trade. Cotto's advantages are in his boxing ability and speed...he throws away his chances if he just stands next to Margo slugs it out with him.

For all his faults..Margarito's greatest advantage is simply being extremely tough. Almost Jake Lamotta tough. Which is why he can walk through bombs from people like Cintron. In an all out slugfest, I just don't see him losing out. Maybe from a perfect Cotto body shot, but thats about it

He could certainly be outboxed, though.

:iagree:

 

[tonymontana]

I believe Magarito will look very slow compared to Cotto. Cotto has fought some very fast guys in Judah and Mosley and he didnt get hit with combos single shots yes but no combos. And magarito doesnt have one punch ko power and thats the way to hurt Cotto. i believe Cotto will let Margo go first and let him hit some air and land some heavy stuff.
I have some very nice parlays with just Cotto and Penn missing. Both are in with extremly tough guys (sherk and Margo) but being tough is not enough at this level. gomez is tough too and the talent gap was shockingly big.
Cotto and Penn will shine and stop their opponents.

 

[gardenweasel]

i`m taking sherk as a better than 2-1 doggie...waiting till right before post time to get the best possible odds....i think he has a real chance to outlast penn in a gruelling fight if he can get through the first round or two...

penn`s been 5 rounds twice....a draw with caol uno...and a loss to jens pulver...

maybe i`m way off...:shrug: ...

 

[almly]

You guys are funny. Go ahead and load up on Margarito - please. Unreal, he was -130 at the MGM? **** me.

Margarito has absolutely no shot to win this fight. None whatsoever.

Cotto has better speed and boxing ability than Margarito? Guess what? He has way more power also.

Margarito has no prayer.


Whatever happened to Daniel Santos by the way?
I just thought of that guy - havent heard a word about him since he got that tech decision against Margarito.

 

[rawli007]

I think its safe to say Margarito will want to trade. Cotto's advantages are in his boxing ability and speed...he throws away his chances if he just stands next to Margo slugs it out with him.

For all his faults..Margarito's greatest advantage is simply being extremely tough. Almost Jake Lamotta tough. Which is why he can walk through bombs from people like Cintron. In an all out slugfest, I just don't see him losing out. Maybe from a perfect Cotto body shot, but thats about it

He could certainly be outboxed, though.

... if they do choose to trade, wouldnt u consider Cotto's power also being an advantage for him?? Just want to hear your opinion... dont want that to come off like a jackass question...

Also, few guys use their size/reach to such an advantage as Margarito does... hes great at utilizing his size and exploiting smaller opponents. Should be really entertaining.

 

[pfcwintergreen]

"if they do choose to trade, wouldnt u consider Cotto's power also being an advantage for him??"

Cotto has power, and it will help him of course, but power in boxing is relative to who you are punching.

What I'm saying is...if this fight turns into an all out Halger-Hearns type affair, Margarito is Hagler. By that I mean nothing more than this; subjectively taking into account the power and chin of both fighters, I think Marg is slightly better equipped to endure an allout game of bombs away than Cotto is.

 

[rawli007]

good points... i feel like this will be a real test for both fighters... each fighter poses threats to one another.

:0corn :0corn

 

[gardenweasel]

... if they do choose to trade, wouldnt u consider Cotto's power also being an advantage for him?? Just want to hear your opinion... dont want that to come off like a jackass question...

Also, few guys use their size/reach to such an advantage as Margarito does... hes great at utilizing his size and exploiting smaller opponents. Should be really entertaining.

i respectfully disagree raw...i think margarito is a tall guy that actually doesn`t utilize his height and reach as much as he should....and he has trouble with quickness...

his strength,imo,is his toughness and his work rate...he just overwhelms guys after awhile...

but,won`t be the first time 2 guys look at the same fighter and come away with differing opinions...:shrug:

i see cotto giving margarito fits early...like clottey did regardless of the height differential...

what will be interesting to see is if margarito can be persistent enough...can land enough to start to wear down cotto as the fight goes on...

or whether cotto will be the one that can hurt margarito....

if i were cotto,i`d use those boxing skills...i wouldn`t want to get into a battle of attrition with margarito...that`s just what he`d want...

although,margarito is saying he`ll use that height in this fight.....should be interesting to see if he can...

i`m honestly anticipating this fight as much as any in recent memory....

 

[rawli007]

i respectfully disagree raw...i think margarito is a tall guy that actually doesn`t utilize his height and reach as much as he should....and he has trouble with quickness...

his strength,imo,is his toughness and his work rate...he just overwhelms guys after awhile...

but,won`t be the first time 2 guys look at the same fighter and come away with differing opinions...:shrug:

i see cotto giving margarito fits early...like clottey did regardless of the height differential...

what will be interesting to see is if margarito can be persistent enough...can land enough to start to wear down cotto as the fight goes on...

or whether cotto will be the one that can hurt margarito....

if i were cotto,i`d use those boxing skills...i wouldn`t want to get into a battle of attrition with margarito...that`s just what he`d want...

although,margarito is saying he`ll use that height in this fight.....should be interesting to see if he can...

i`m honestly anticipating this fight as much as any in recent memory....

I see what u mean GW... more than anything i think Margo does a good job of keeping his opponents at bay w/ his straight punches (sometimes he just comes out swinging w/o a care of getting tagged a few times)... doesnt seem easy to get inside on him.. then again maybe thats just due to his work rate :shrug: he doesnt give u a chance to let ur guard down to throw punches :mj07:

One thing i know is that Margarito has never faced anyone as talented as Cotto.

 

[Chill]

IMO-
The difference will be Margarito's rock solid chin against Cotto's average one.
R.Torres rocked Cotto a few times and C.Quintana and S.Mosely landed some good shots as well against him.
Cotto will have to get on the inside to land against Margarito which will open him up to taking some big shots.

I think the value clearly lies with Margarito.