Best Values this week

[Joe De]

Kansas+2' Over Northwestern........by far the better team

Memphis -22' Over Ark State.....lay the farm and mama on this one..the line will rise latter this week get it now




Vanderbilt over Mississippi...ignore the performance displayed in the South Carolina game by Vandy...they're improved team with many veteran starters..(practically the whole team)


Close but no cigar for a Don't Laugh Pick Is..


Indiana over Kentucky to win straight up..DiNardo is one of the best defensive coaches in college football..I think this is his year to shine..finally

 

[taoist]

...love the Vandy and memphrica picks, but don't you think that this is a flat spot for Indiana coming off that huge upset?

 

[Master Capper]

Like them all but not sure about Kansas

 

[mw]

Like 'em all except Vandy.

 

[buddy]

Like 'em all except Memphis -.

 

[Scott4USC]

Close but no cigar for a Don't Laugh Pick Is..


Indiana over Kentucky to win straight up..DiNardo is one of the best defensive coaches in college football..I think this is his year to shine..finally

I am gonna have to laugh. Just kidding but DO NOT base this pick on Indiana's win over Oregon. Oregon handed Indiana the game and a lot of luck on Indiana's side. Many tipped pass INT's.

Oregon 495 total yards
Indiana 198 total yards

7 turnovers for Oregon
2 turnovers for Indiana

Indiana averaged 2 yards per rush while Oregon averaged 5 yards per rush.

Indiana gave up 370 passing yards while Indiana only passed for 70 yards. Oregon weakness on defense is their DB's yet IU only passed for 70 yards!

Still think DiNardo is one of the best defensive coaches in college football???

Indiana's first 4 possessions were DEEP inside Oregon territory!

Oregon 24 2h pts with Indiana only 7pts!

Indiana played the previous week and this was Oregons 1st game of the year.

DO NOT BASE THIS PICK ON INDIANA UPSETTING OREGON! Oregon gave Indiana the game, especially when Oregon at the end of the 4th quarter drove into Indiana side of the field 3 times and threw 2 INT's and missed a FG when down by only 6pts.

 

[Sun Tzu]

Last I checked the W is what matters and the Ducks and Cougars and Bruins and Wildcats and Beavers and Huskies have showed what we already knew - the Pac 10 is a team conference plus a would be contender/pretender in Cal.

Scott I was a tad surprised to see you throwing out stats as an excuse. Weren't you on here last year lambasting people who discussed what Oregon State's offense did v USC and "explaining" why the numbers were misleading and the win was what counted?

 

[Irish]

To add to what Scott4USC said....Oregon was looking ahead to Oklahoma. When Oregon woke up and realized they were going to lose the game they scored points but it was too late they had already spotted Indy 20. I like the Kansas play, GL this weekend!

Irish

 

[LonghornMM]

IMO Vandy is not a good play. Even though they have a lot of seniors they seem to play soft as a team. I'd leave that one alone.

Love the Memphis play.

 

[mw]

Agree, Longhorn -- Ole Miss is the play.

And Scott -- in the first half, when the game was competitive, Oregon and IU were pretty even from the line of scrimmage - about 4 yards per play each. Dinardo went conservative in the second half on offense, I assume, and probably played a soft defense with a big lead. I say "I assume" because I didn't watch the game, but I did read the play-by-play because I was so shocked by the yardage differential. I have to admit, though, I don't like IU quite as much as I didi before I read the box score, although it's still a play for me.

 

[someonewhoknows]

clemson looks pretty tempting

 

[Scott4USC]

Sun Tzu

Last I checked the W is what matters and the Ducks and Cougars and Bruins and Wildcats and Beavers and Huskies have showed what we already knew - the Pac 10 is a team conference plus a would be contender/pretender in Cal.

In handicapping a W is not what matters. You always look at why and how a team won or lost. Maybe you just look at who won or lost. Take for example Penn St. vs BC last week. I bet on PSU and it was the right play but I lost. PSU had 269 yards passing against BC, but PSU QB turned ball over 4x on int's. I had the right play but the wrong outcome. I am going to be wagering on UCONN against BC not because BC got the W against PSU but how BC got the W against PSU. Get it?

I disagree with you about the Pac 10. Look at all the teams the Pac 10 has played. Maybe you are more impressed by the Big 12! :142lmao:

Scott I was a tad surprised to see you throwing out stats as an excuse. Weren't you on here last year lambasting people who discussed what Oregon State's offense did v USC and "explaining" why the numbers were misleading and the win was what counted?

YES I DID but the USC/OSU stats were NOT slanted and guess what, I CA$HED 9k because people and vegas lines thought wrongly about that. I took USC over Michigan and won big time. I explained that the USC defense was very good but many here took the stats from that OSU game and thought Michigan's high powered offense was going to destroy the USC "soft" defense. Many said the USC DB's were not good. It was all about Carroll developing the right scheme with his personnel and that scheme was to keep everything in front of you which gives up a lot of yards but not many pts! Plus QB Anderson is a INT throwing machine so you want him having many passing attempts!

IU's defense IS NOT GOOD or should I say was not good last week against Oregon. It was not like IU had big hits are great blitz schemes against Oregon. Oregon just made stupid mistakes. Similar to Oregon St. loss to Boise St. where Anderson I think had 4 TIPPED INT's in that game.

Again, I am not saying take IU or Kentucky, I am just saying DO NOT TAKE IU BECAUSE THEY UPSET OREGON!

I watched a lot of that Oregon IU game (even though I had no $$$ on it) and Oregon gave the game away. Great win for IU and their program but it was not like IU did anything special in the game. Oregon was favored by 20pts for a reason and Oregon easily would have covered that number if they did not have 7 turnovers.

You "may" want to look at Oregon over OU because Oregon is NOT as bad as they looked or what the final score would suggest.

 

[Master Capper]

Scott,


Are you that dumb to try to rationalize that Oregon should of won just because they are a Pac 10 team? Face the facts they lost to the last place Big 10 team,

 

[Sun Tzu]

Scott your Pro-Pac 10 rant had nothing to do with point spreads. Or is your BCS wins reference ATS?

 

[Scott4USC]

Master Capper

Scott,

Are you that dumb to try to rationalize that Oregon should of won just because they are a Pac 10 team? Face the facts they lost to the last place Big 10 team,

NO, but I am saying OREGON had MORE to do with them losing than IU. As the saying goes, Oregon beat themselves. Maybe it was because it was their 1st game of the year or looking ahead to playing #2 OU I dunno. I do not really care too much about it anyways but I do know IU was NOT very impressive at all. I do know IU was VERY VERY LUCKY to beat Oregon. Oregon was down 6pts late in the 4th, and Oregon missed easy FG, then got ball back drove down deep into IU territory and INT, stopped IU AGAIN, got ball back, drove down into IU territory and threw INT again. IU did not really beat Oregon, Oregon beat themselves. Happens all the time in sports. Maybe you were impressed by IU, I wasn't. I also was not very impressed by Oregon with there 7 turnovers and 85 penalty yards. Thanks to IU, Oregon is now currently ranked #5 in the country in total defense!

Sun Tzu

Scott your Pro-Pac 10 rant had nothing to do with point spreads. Or is your BCS wins reference ATS?

My original post had NOTHING to do with the Pac 10. It was about Oregon and IU. Not sure what you mean by your second line.

 

[Joe De]

thank you for the input.

scott, kentucky is weak this year and dinardo has the momentum...Indiana was improving at the end of last season etc.

Indiana should be giving the points not getting points.

this is NOT a Don't Laugh Pick of the Week...it's only close..

taoist, ....how you doing bud!
Memphis should have a winning season ...looks good for a bowl bid this year

Mastercapper...what's your take on the TCU/Texas Tech game.....i showTCU and points. l

 

[BobbyBlueChip]

Not reading too much into the Indiana win, but don't dismiss it either. Indiana moved the ball in the first half (albeit, on a short field) and shut the Ducks down. All Oregon had to do for a win was drive 44 yards and then 27 yards for a game-winning TD and they couldn't do it, no matter how many yards they got earlier against a soft Hoosier defense just wanting to move the clock. That's the thing about being down 23-0, your QB should find a lot of lanes.

Drive Chart
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/playbyplay?gameId=242552483&quarter=0

 

[Scott4USC]

BobbyBlueChip

Indiana moved the ball in the first half (albeit, on a short field) and shut the Ducks down.

Indiana drives in 1q

1st drive went for 3 yards!
2nd drive went for 0 yards!
3rd drive went for 33 yards! (TD)
4th drive went for -2 yards!
5th drive went for 14 yards! (TD)
6th drive went for 16 yards!

Indiana drives in 2q

7th drive was for 55 yards!
8th drive was for 18 yards!
9th drive was for 8 yards!

In the 2h their longest drive was for 36 yards!

Oregon had 4 fumbles on their first 6 possessions and I think lost all 4 fumbles inside Oregon territory and deep inside Oregon territory!

NOT IMPRESSED AT ALL BY INDIANA! Also not impressed by the turnovers and penalty yards by Oregon! If Oregon plays the same way @OU, they will lose by 50pts!

 

[Master Capper]

Joe,


Has anything been upgraded to a dont make me laugh play? Alot of people are on Vandy this week, sort of starting to look like a trap!

 

[ELVIS]

i don't know about iu, but ky sucks.jmo