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Patriots-Steelers line surprising to some

Can the Pittsburgh Steelers actually end up being a 3 1/2-point home underdog to the New England Patriots in Sunday’s AFC championship game?

You know bookmakers hate to get off a 3-point line, which is how many points the Patriots are favored to beat the Steelers. But it’s a legitimate question considering how much bettors steamed the Colts this past week.

Indy was bet from plus 2 1/2 to a pick’em. Some of us are still licking our wounds following New England’s 20-3 victory, wondering if the Patriots just have the Colts’ number, or if Peyton Manning is overrated because he plays so many games indoors in perfect conditions?

“No,” said Bert Osborne, head man for the Coast hotel sports books in Las Vegas, when asked if he thought the Patriots could get bet up to -3 1/2 this week. “That would be a heck of a move. The big players would keep it honest at three.”

Some books opened the Patriots at -2 1/2, but quickly moved them to 3-points. Pinnacle, a well-respected Internet book, had the Steelers +3 on Monday afternoon but at minus $1.26 juice. That could be a tip-off the game won’t get up to 3 1/2 either.

“There’s not that many of us but we’re well capitalized,” said professional bettor Steve Fezzik. “If it goes to 3 1/2 it will only be up there 15 minutes at the most because every sharp is lying in wait to play the Steelers.”

Fezzik believes the line is inflated because of how well the Patriots looked Sunday in dispatching the Colts and how lucky the Steelers were to beat the Jets. Pittsburgh was a three-point home underdog when it defeated the Patriots, 34-20, on Oct. 31. The Pats didn’t have Corey Dillon that game and were out-gained, 417-248, by the Steelers. That victory was the fifth in what has become a 15-game win streak for the Steelers.

“(Ben) Roethlisberger has one bad game and the Jets get two fluke touchdowns (on a punt return and interception return) and now there’s a five-point over-correction in the line,” Fezzik said. “I’m not saying the Patriots can’t win, but anyone who lays this number is a bad bettor. This game should be pick’em.”

In the NFC championship matchup, the line has settled in with the majority of books having the Eagles -4 1/2-points against the Falcons. There were some minus-fives at a few places Monday afternoon, including the Palms Hotel, Caesars Palace properties and Station Casino sportsbooks in Las Vegas.

“We’re getting money both ways at 4 1/2,” Osborne said. “That seems to be the right number. We have a little wiggle room if needed.”

In other words, no big deal if the Eagles should rise to 5-points since that’s not a key number as far as the favorite winning by that exact amount.

Both totals have been bet down. The Patriots-Steelers opened 38 and is currently 36, while the Falcons-Eagles over/under opened 42. At a number of influential Internet books, including CRIS, Olympic and Pinnacle, the Falcons-Eagles total dropped to 40 1/2. However, nearly all the big Strip hotels in Las Vegas had the over/under at 41 Monday afternoon.

Not surprisingly, cold weather is expected in both Pittsburgh and Philadelphia. There is a 50 percent chance of snow and showers in Philadelphia for Sunday. The long-range forecast calls for a high of 29 and low of 19 degrees.

In Pittsburgh, about 300 miles from Philadelphia, the early word is 30 percent chance of snow and showers with temperatures expected to be from 22 to 27 degrees. The way the Steelers have played, they don’t necessarily need any help from the weather to go under the total. Pittsburgh led the NFL in fewest yards given up and ranked No. 1 in scoring defense, allowing only 15.7 points per game.

The Patriots, on the other hand, have the top defensive coaching minds in football. They have gone 5-2 to the under in Bill Belichick’s seven playoff games. The Steelers have scored less than 21 points in six of their last eight games.
 

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There?s not that many of us but we?re well capitalized,? said professional bettor Steve Fezzik. ?If it goes to 3 1/2 it will only be up there 15 minutes at the most because every sharp is lying in wait to play the Steelers.? :scared

Fezzik said. ?I?m not saying the Patriots can?t win, but anyone who lays this number is a bad bettor. This game should be pick?em.? :eek:
 

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yeah right, if the line moves 1/2 point all the sharp bettors will be all over pit but if it were at pick-em all the "sharp bettors" woudl be struggling to decide who to bet on??????? if the line were at pick-em NE would be getting hammered.

the line is right...STOP with the whining!
 

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gjn23 said:
yeah right, if the line moves 1/2 point all the sharp bettors will be all over pit but if it were at pick-em all the "sharp bettors" woudl be struggling to decide who to bet on??????? if the line were at pick-em NE would be getting hammered.

the line is right...STOP with the whining!

I'm not whining... I could care less... Just thought I would share an article... don't get all sensative.... (-: The line doesn't impact the game, I already know the Steelers are going to win.... Just trying to talk people out of losing money... just kidding ... Lighten up!
 
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GJN23-How you can interpret the posting of this very helpful article as whining is puzzling.A professional bettor is explaining to you how where the line was set was influenced by the misleading final scores of last weeks games.This is the most common weakness of many bettors,overvalueing last week.It is the biggest advantage the linesmaker has over the players.He is saying Pitt+3 is a hell of a deal,and Pitt+3- is in his opinion worth betting the farm on.After last weeks games the odds makers aren't going to let NE cover,the Public is all over them.Thats not whining,just fact!!
 

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the fact is the line is set right where is should be

ne was a three point fav earlier in the year and are a 3 point fav again.

my point was if the the game was pick em would this "professional better" be saying stay away, the line is correct?

hell no, he'd be hammering the patriots as evidenced by his unwillingness to hammer the stellers at +3 and waiting for +3.5

ne +3
ne -3

wont matter when the win by dd
dont think the 1 or 2 will matter as i suspect there will be limited fg made due to weather conditions so the game will likely be a 3-4-7-10-14 point game

who wins...covers

to be safe take ne ml
 

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No, I think the article is saying that the sharps will be on the Steelers regardless. They are just waiting and hoping the line moves to 3.5

“If it goes to 3 1/2 it will only be up there 15 minutes at the most because every sharp is lying in wait to play the Steelers.”

Regardless... Think about this, if 70 pct of the public is on the Pats.... Why isn't the line moving to 3.5????

Doesn't really matter what you and I think... Bottom line, the game still has to be played. If the last game Steelers vs Pats was an indicator.... The Pats have their hands full Sunday night in a very hostile environment.... I watched the first game again last night, and the Pats we getting blown off the ball.. The Steeler running backs were getting 2 yards before they were touched....
 

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I don't anticipate the line moving from 3, if you want a better
number, you may be able to buy it with juice or else tease this
game with another side. If the line had come out as a PK, the
action placed on NE would have been F'n huge!!! Personally,
I believe the Pats cover 3. It needed to be that number to
keep the action in check.
 

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seeker:

exactly my point. the idiot "sharp bettor" from the article knows full well he would have hammered NE at pick.

the line is right.

the line last week vs indy was wrong. it should have been and stayed at ne -3 or -4 not moved to ne +1...that was a joke.
 
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