Bitcoing mining

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I know most of you have no clue what this is but for those that do or might have you looked into it at all? My brother in law had a business that he folded last year but he thinks he can turn them into efficient bitcoin miners so we're going to make a go of it.

If you don't know anything about them, take some time and educate yourself. It really is a very cool topic to read about.

Basically think of the new gold rush. Instead of mining gold you're mining bitcoins. Sounds weird I know but if you look into it and can understand it you will be blown away.​
 
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One explanation of Bitcoin internet "currency"

One explanation of Bitcoin internet "currency"

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_...heme_the_internet_currency_will_collapse.html

I remember getting real 1880's silver dollars at the bank in the early sixties....for a paper dollar bill.
Now you have Governments printing trillions of unbacked paper money ordained by your faith in the Government and its banker cronies.
 

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if it gets big enough the whole thing would be shut down swiftly IMO because of all the illegal activity it attracts.
 

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Have fun day trading in an unregulated currency platform. May as well gamble offshore. By the way you missed the run fro $2 to $260 already. :0008
 
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bitcoins are badddddddd news IMO.

you said your brother in law thinks he can turn "them" into efficient bit miners....who is them?

companies are pumping out super computers that can "mine" much much much faster than your average computer. doing this with a regular computer is almost laughable. these super computers are being made for the public to buy so now youre going to have tons and tons of people buying these machines for up to 1,000 dollars or more.

secondly, like tfresh said, the bubble has clearly burst last week. I would be shocked to ever see it that high again. the whole thing reeks of a ponzi scheme. those hoarding the bitcoins control the bubble and popped it last week. it is unregulated and very shady looking to me. I think any value that was in this is gone now.

you are also going to be competing with these "pools" where people team up and mine as a team. undoubtedly there will be teams of people using these super machines.

the people who are really into this are pretty out there. not sure if you have read many bitcoin forums but some of the posters are looney tunes.

maybe there is a few bucks in this short term, but long term id say absolutely no way in hell. if it ever even got to the point where it was big enough to be relevant, I think it would face major problems as the payments are anonymous and therefore used by people laundering money or buying illegal items, like narcotics.

most sensible people ive seen discussing this completely mock it and the people who support it.
 

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bitcoins are badddddddd news IMO.

you said your brother in law thinks he can turn "them" into efficient bit miners....who is them?

companies are pumping out super computers that can "mine" much much much faster than your average computer. doing this with a regular computer is almost laughable. these super computers are being made for the public to buy so now youre going to have tons and tons of people buying these machines for up to 1,000 dollars or more.

secondly, like tfresh said, the bubble has clearly burst last week. I would be shocked to ever see it that high again. the whole thing reeks of a ponzi scheme. those hoarding the bitcoins control the bubble and popped it last week. it is unregulated and very shady looking to me. I think any value that was in this is gone now.

you are also going to be competing with these "pools" where people team up and mine as a team. undoubtedly there will be teams of people using these super machines.

the people who are really into this are pretty out there. not sure if you have read many bitcoin forums but some of the posters are looney tunes.

maybe there is a few bucks in this short term, but long term id say absolutely no way in hell. if it ever even got to the point where it was big enough to be relevant, I think it would face major problems as the payments are anonymous and therefore used by people laundering money or buying illegal items, like narcotics.

most sensible people ive seen discussing this completely mock it and the people who support it.

"them" is the computers he used in his tech company.

There are looney toons on every forum, this one is a good example of that.

As far as price goes and the "bubble burst." Someone like me doesn't want the price being too high. The super groups can basically print cash when it is. Once it lowers the cost to mine it keeps them from cranking out too much because they keep lowering the value of the coin.

I can go into more detail but doubt it would matter if you really don't know much about it. You can get into it for relatively cheap.(2k) The problem in the future will be keeping up with technology.

For those that have really looked at it you know that it's nothing short of brilliant and mind blowing.


Tfresh, I've been trading Forex for years and made enough money to live comfortably off of for years to come. I've never once worried about it being unregulated. I can remember when everyone I spoke to told me I was an idiot for trading on the forex market. I started out doing it as a hobby because it was fun and challenging. That's pretty much what I'm doing here. I'll throw 5-10k at it and have fun. If it doesn't work then I have great stories for years to come. If it works out like Forex did then I'm just adding to my net worth.
 
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"them" is the computers he used in his tech company.

There are looney toons on every forum, this one is a good example of that.

As far as price goes and the "bubble burst." Someone like me doesn't want the price being too high. The super groups can basically print cash when it is. Once it lowers the cost to mine it keeps them from cranking out too much because they keep lowering the value of the coin.

I can go into more detail but doubt it would matter if you really don't know much about it. You can get into it for relatively cheap.(2k) The problem in the future will be keeping up with technology.

For those that have really looked at it you know that it's nothing short of brilliant and mind blowing.


Tfresh, I've been trading Forex for years and made enough money to live comfortably off of for years to come. I've never once worried about it being unregulated. I can remember when everyone I spoke to told me I was an idiot for trading on the forex market. I started out doing it as a hobby because it was fun and challenging. That's pretty much what I'm doing here. I'll throw 5-10k at it and have fun. If it doesn't work then I have great stories for years to come. If it works out like Forex did then I'm just adding to my net worth.


I wouldn't invest more than you are comfortable losing, that is for sure.

The people who created this and were the first to do it as it was semi private for a while, own a tremendous amount of the coins and can control things.

Also, if this was such a brilliant idea, more companies would jump on board with accepting bitcoins as payment. There are very few places you can buy things with bitcoin. In fact, the major place you can buy things with bitcoins is a place that lets you purchase illegal things, like drugs.

Why would a company accept bitcoins as a payment when their value is so unstable and changes in literally minutes? You'd have to update your prices CONSTANTLY to not get burned.

Also some food for thought, the "trading" platform, which is unregulated and could realistically take all of your money and just close up shop, well they aren't very secure it would seem. They have no federal backing or guarantee your money is safe for one, and they are constantly under attack from hackers and others, who have been successful. I've also read quite a bit about the less major bitcoin trading platforms where you can actually trade bitcoins for real money being hacked and accounts compromised.

Bitcoins might be popular to some because its "futuristic" but this is really nothing more than a group of friends deciding they will take monopoly money and use it as face value. It will have no value to anyone other than the people using it.

Also, if I'm not mistaken, everytime you make a transaction it takes around 10 minutes, or much longer to complete it. Mainly because it has to be sent to all these mining programs so it can be verified. Each transaction will be longer than the next because everything is based on computer coding. The more coding the longer it takes to process, yes?

The electricity to mine these things will end up costing more than the value you are going to get in the coins. The loons heavily invested into this have rooms in their house full of bitcoin mining servers which are running non stop and costing them like a thousand bucks a month in utilities.

And finally, think about what this is. This is simply a way to make money by doing absolutely nothing, or very little at all. That is the idea anyway. You set your computer on auto-pilot and hopefully watch the bitcoins come in. Do you really think there is something out there that you can just turn on and let you earn money? Do you not think everybody in the world would do this if that were the case?

I hope your brother in law has some super computer because I read a post last night about a guy with a high end graphics card who joined a pool (a group of people who all mine together and share the profits because it is a much easier way to actually earn anything) and mined for a week, non stop, on his computer.

He earned 2% of ONE bit coin after a week. So, in about 2 years at that rate, he may have earned 1 bit coin.
 
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"them" is the computers he used in his tech company.

There are looney toons on every forum, this one is a good example of that.


As far as price goes and the "bubble burst." Someone like me doesn't want the price being too high. The super groups can basically print cash when it is. Once it lowers the cost to mine it keeps them from cranking out too much because they keep lowering the value of the coin.

I can go into more detail but doubt it would matter if you really don't know much about it. You can get into it for relatively cheap.(2k) The problem in the future will be keeping up with technology.

For those that have really looked at it you know that it's nothing short of brilliant and mind blowing.


Tfresh, I've been trading Forex for years and made enough money to live comfortably off of for years to come. I've never once worried about it being unregulated. I can remember when everyone I spoke to told me I was an idiot for trading on the forex market. I started out doing it as a hobby because it was fun and challenging. That's pretty much what I'm doing here. I'll throw 5-10k at it and have fun. If it doesn't work then I have great stories for years to come. If it works out like Forex did then I'm just adding to my net worth.

So you ask people for information and call them looney since they disagree with you.

Why are you asking for information then?

In my opinion he is way too late in the game to make any real money off of that.

But I guess I am another looney toon since I disagree with you.
 
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So you ask people for information and call them looney since they disagree with you.

Why are you asking for information then?

In my opinion he is way too late in the game to make any real money off of that.

But I guess I am another looney toon since I disagree with you.

Never once did I call anyone a looney for not agreeing with me. Airportis said there are loonies in the Bitcoin forums and I simply said there are loonies in every forum and yes this forum is a great example of that. There are several people(or posting names) that I would consider looney. If I called someone looney for not agreeing with me then I apologize but pretty sure I didn't.
 

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So you ask people for information and call them looney since they disagree with you.

Why are you asking for information then?

In my opinion he is way too late in the game to make any real money off of that.

But I guess I am another looney toon since I disagree with you.

And the voice of reason shows up. I am sure s555 is an expert on bitcoins like everything else here at Mj's.

:mj07:
 

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And the voice of reason shows up. I am sure s555 is an expert on bitcoins like everything else here at Mj's.

:mj07:

I looked into bitcoins awhile back, they actually have some sportsbooks you can use them in.

One offered some pretty obscure tennis lines which I was looking for.

My concern is that the peak is long gone. The run up to 260 was all about some big networks, websites actually talking about them.

And mining without super computers is not going to amount to much money.

I still think its a neat idea to transfer money without any government interference, I just do not see the value of them ever getting over 200$ or close to that amount ever again.
 

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And the voice of reason shows up. I am sure s555 is an expert on bitcoins like everything else here at Mj's.

:mj07:

But please tell me all you know about this, I will be waiting.

I just think the time to make money on shit like this is before everyone knows about it and assumes they can make money off of it. :shrug:
 

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I just think the time to make money on shit like this is before everyone knows about it and assumes they can make money off of it. :shrug:

I think this statement is true if you're thinking these are a fad so to speak. If you believe there is a bright future for bitcoins then this statement is not true.
 
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