Boxing 02/23 - 02/25

[LordoftheLunch]

Great betting weekend ahead!!! (again)

Thursday:
Yota Sato vs. Teiru Kinoshita
Akinori Watanabe vs. Koshinmaru Saito

Friday:
Juan Carlos Burgos vs. Cristobal Cruz
Edgar Santana vs. Manuel Perez
Mike Tiberi vs. Toris Brewer
Anthony Smith vs. Adam Collins

Jessie Vargas vs. Lanardo Tyner
Deandre Latimore vs. Ryan Davis

Edner Cherry vs. Guillermo Sanchez

Omar Sheika vs. Anthony Ferrante

David Barnes vs. Giuseppe Lauri

Guillaume Frenois vs. Hovhannes Zhamkochyan
Thierry Karl vs. Sandro Siproshvili

Susie Ramadan vs. Alesia Graf


Saturday

Marcos Maidana vs. Devon Alexander
Adrien Broner vs. Eloy Perez
Sharif Bogere vs. Sergio Rivera
Deontay Wilder vs. Chris Koval
Keith Thurman vs. Christopher Fernandez

Alexander Povetkin vs. Marco Huck
Dominik Britsch vs. Roberto Santos
Edmund Gerber vs. Olesksiy Mazikin
Marcos Nader vs. Baker Barakat

Nathan Cleverly vs. Tommy Karpency
Enzo Maccarinelli (33-5) vs. TBA
Frankie Gavin vs. Kevin McIntyre

Lee McAllister vs. Denis Shafikov
Travis Dickinson vs. Paul David
Chris Burton vs. Jon Dickinson

Jose Aguiniga vs. Juan Ruiz
Hugo Centeno vs. Roderick Grajeda
David Rodela vs. Baudel Cardenas

Ronald Cruz vs. Allen Conyers

Wayne Braithwaite vs. Shawn Cox

Oscar Ibarra vs. Juan Montes

Gamaliel Diaz vs. Fernando Garcia Mariana Juarez vs. Anastasia Toktaulova

Hector Saldivia vs. Jonathan Duran

Braimah Kamoko vs. Hamza Wandera

Antonio De Vitis vs. Ermano Fegati.

Willie Casey vs. James Ancliff

Lee Murtagh vs. J.J McDonagh
Anthony Fitzgerald vs. Alexey Ribchev

opcorn2

 

[Zerwas]

thats a pretty extensive schedule!

But there are really some good fights!!!

 

[THE_THONG]

thong going with an underdog this week

:facepalm:

will show hand later opcorn2

 

[Zerwas]

thong going with an underdog this week

:facepalm:

:shrug:

 

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Posting CLEARLY DEFINED PICKS....

Posting CLEARLY DEFINED PICKS....

A suggestion, or request, but sometimes it seems a guy has to interpret posts to really KNOW EXACTLY what bet a guy is making. Or maybe I'm not the brightest light on the road; I don't know. What I mean is if a guy likes say, the OVER in a fight, PLEASE, don't say OVER MIDDLE rounds, or some such esoteric phrase. It's over 8.5/9.5 whatever. This is no place for ambiguity. Not that anyone has to even post at all, but in all fairness, as far as a betting forum is concerned, if you did'nt post, it did'nt happen. Hope everyone gets my drift. Peace.

 

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Maidana/Alexander...

Maidana/Alexander...

Nice article in "Bad Left Hook" regarding Alexander's increased motivation in this fight due to Maidana's camp requesting post fight testing. Alexander says basically he is ticked off NOW and totally motivated. What, he wasn't 100% motivated already? At any rate, Devon is MUCH quicker than Maidana, as we all know. Maidana is a come forward power puncher, and will eat a lot of shots. I really believe Maidana when he says he KNOWS he has to score a KO to win in St. Louis. Been a lot a shady judging at that venue. Looking forward to this. I am not a fan of Alexander's holding/grabbing tactics. I would love to see Maidana take this. No bet yet.

 

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further elaborating...

further elaborating...

As far as leans in order of preference as posted by 5imes as follows:
Alexander:12 rd. decision-104.
Goes the distance:-210.
Maidana-inside:+255.
Draw:+2500(hello lunch!).
What with all the holding and clinches I expect, I see it easily going past the tenth round. Maidana has the proverbial "punchers" chance to take Devon out. Not crazy about that result though. Fast, elusive "tie em up" lefty, versus a come forward banger. If the fight with Matthysse is any indication, I think Maidana has his work cut out for him. Alexander can take a punch, but I don't think he won that fight. A draw would have been fairer.

 

[Donny]

I also like Alexander by DC. The only thing that is holding me is that the fight is listed as 10 rounds on boxrec, but most books including 5 dimes seems have it as 12 rounds. The usual story!

 

[The Sponge]

I know some guys in our naive world don't think this could possible happen but it does. Imagine how many times a fighter does this for the gambling gods, who set the odds (gambling gods)so it is impossible to bet on gambling gods side because the odds are ridiculous, but somehow win for the book. Of course Joey Odessa will act like this never happens just like Odds makers do in all the other sports. I always enjoy watching a total mismatch go over the total and then the very next round the guy finally knocks out his over matched opponent. the books win and the public loses. Not because the public sucks at betting but because the public got cheated by a couple of snakes in the grasshttp://www.badlefthook.com/2012/2/2...ht-fixing-2005-groenewald-british-boxing-news

 

[Oddessa]

donk

donk

lol. have a coffee and read my post yesterday' b4 name dropping.

i do alotta talents...'of course' ...but acting aint one of them..

peace ninja

 

[The Sponge]

lol. have a coffee and read my post yesterday' b4 name dropping.

i do alotta talents...'of course' ...but acting aint one of them..

peace ninja

I love how this burns up lines makers when something like this happens. It is only okay when u guys do it buying refs and coaches with a token player here and there. This is why Pete Rose got in so much hot water and still is today. He did this behind the odds makers backs. If u do it behind the odds makers back u are basically shamed for life. If u do it with the odds makers blessing u are a hero in their eyes. Odds makers need to use their power to make sure Froch is put in his pace. Just like Pete Rose was. Imagine that we got killers in sports, rapist, drug addicts, and dealers but good god don't do something behind an oddsmakers back because u will be banned for life since they possible missed out on their cut. What an example Pete Rose has been to gambling. U have to be borderline retarded to think Pete will ever be allowed in baseball again. Rapist as well as murderers are okay thou as long as they keep bring in that cash for the books.

 

[fastfrank]

Boxing is big business. Business is about making money. Money corrupts. Humans are vile and dishonest, and boxing is a hotbed of greed. Look at Bob arum and Oscar de la Hoya. So, if Carl Froch gets cute its scandalous, but if Goldman Sachs brings down the worlds economy, the US justice dept., looks the other way and its business as usual. Froch has to be a first class numb nut for incriminating himself, but there are a lot worse things going on.

 

[Oddessa]

I love how this burns up lines makers when something like this happens. It is only okay when u guys do it buying refs and coaches with a token player here and there. This is why Pete Rose got in so much hot water and still is today. He did this behind the odds makers backs. If u do it behind the odds makers back u are basically shamed for life. If u do it with the odds makers blessing u are a hero in their eyes. Odds makers need to use their power to make sure Froch is put in his pace. Just like Pete Rose was. Imagine that we got killers in sports, rapist, drug addicts, and dealers but good god don't do something behind an oddsmakers back because u will be banned for life since they possible missed out on their cut. What an example Pete Rose has been to gambling. U have to be borderline retarded to think Pete will ever be allowed in baseball again. Rapist as well as murderers are okay thou as long as they keep bring in that cash for the books.

preach brother sam...plz say ur not remotely fuking serious..but will allow myself to be trolled for a few minutes time...

dig up over/under threads from some of the here that bitch and email constantly bed bugging books when they don't offer a particular bout.

I stopped offering several UK & Aussie Boxing bouts in last 5 years.....still stopped...prizefighter in particular...you think it was because I was incapable of making a price or b/c I felt a responsibilty to clean up boxing....ninja please..niether reason... .it was because of nonsense like this ...despite denial by every brokester on the boards ...it was getting outa hand....and I like my money and holding onto it...

(dealt no total on briggs vs green either....coincidence?)

it's not any oddsmakers job to clean up sports..... simply just don't be pigs and offer it if you think its suspect....I pass on bouts all time..ex: like the o/u on the Canadian 1 rounder.... last saturday.

respect.... but you're preaching to the whip cup about the shaved dice.

 

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Mixed parlay for this weekend; boxing/UFC...

Mixed parlay for this weekend; boxing/UFC...

Alexander-165/Frankie Edgar-130(UFC).

 

[THE_THONG]

heyy frankiebabyy

i'll try to head out for the rios - gamboa fight in vegas in april

:toast:

 

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heyy frankiebabyy

i'll try to head out for the rios - gamboa fight in vegas in april

:toast:

Sounds good! If Rios looks like he did in his last fight, he could be in trouble. Gamboa is still a work in progress and improving steadily. Rios though is one tough SOB. Hate to have to be the one to line this fight.

 

[The Sponge]

preach brother sam...plz say ur not remotely fuking serious..but will allow myself to be trolled for a few minutes time...

dig up over/under threads from some of the here that bitch and email constantly bed bugging books when they don't offer a particular bout.

I stopped offering several UK & Aussie Boxing bouts in last 5 years.....still stopped...prizefighter in particular...you think it was because I was incapable of making a price or b/c I felt a responsibilty to clean up boxing....ninja please..niether reason... .it was because of nonsense like this ...despite denial by every brokester on the boards ...it was getting outa hand....and I like my money and holding onto it...

(dealt no total on briggs vs green either....coincidence?)

it's not any oddsmakers job to clean up sports..... simply just don't be pigs and offer it if you think its suspect....I pass on bouts all time..ex: like the o/u on the Canadian 1 rounder.... last saturday.

respect.... but you're preaching to the whip cup about the shaved dice.

Joey i really don'tnow much about u so that might have come up harsh but to think some oddsmakers and im talking about the big boys don't know a final score before a game is over is the biggest joke in sports. The perfect setup happen Monday night. Here we have the knicks with all kinds of tremendous momentum (Linsanity, the signing of JR Smith who looked terrific on Sunday which happen to also be on national TV, Carmelo coming back as well as Baron Davis) against this god awful team in Njersey. A NJ team mission what could be their best player. So now im seeing this line at 9.5 and for some reason it drops to 8.5. Now Joey i have access to a pretty large book where i can see numbers and i saw 12 to 1 guys on the KNicks. Hell why wouldn't they be? The knicks should have beaten them by 50. My q

 

[The Sponge]

preach brother sam...plz say ur not remotely fuking serious..but will allow myself to be trolled for a few minutes time...

dig up over/under threads from some of the here that bitch and email constantly bed bugging books when they don't offer a particular bout.

I stopped offering several UK & Aussie Boxing bouts in last 5 years.....still stopped...prizefighter in particular...you think it was because I was incapable of making a price or b/c I felt a responsibilty to clean up boxing....ninja please..niether reason... .it was because of nonsense like this ...despite denial by every brokester on the boards ...it was getting outa hand....and I like my money and holding onto it...

(dealt no total on briggs vs green either....coincidence?)

it's not any oddsmakers job to clean up sports..... simply just don't be pigs and offer it if you think its suspect....I pass on bouts all time..ex: like the o/u on the Canadian 1 rounder.... last saturday.

respect.... but you're preaching to the whip cup about the shaved dice.

Joey i really don'tnow much about u so that might have come up harsh but to think some oddsmakers and im talking about the big boys don't know a final score before a game is over is the biggest joke in sports. The perfect setup happen Monday night. Here we have the knicks with all kinds of tremendous momentum (Linsanity, the signing of JR Smith who looked terrific on Sunday which happen to also be on national TV, Carmelo coming back as well as Baron Davis) against this god awful team in Njersey. A NJ team mission what could be their best player. So now im seeing this line at 9.5 and for some reason it drops to 8.5. Now Joey i have access to a pretty large book where i can see numbers and i saw 12 to 1 guys on the KNicks. Hell why wouldn't they be? The knicks should have beaten them by 50. My questions Joey are why drop the line when all the money is on NY and rightfully so? How did the oddsmakers amazingly know that the refs would foul out the Knicks point guard? And how did the Odds makers know that guys like Carmelo would throw balls away at crucial times? Are odds makers this brilliant to be able to predict these things and that is why they dropped the line or is it what i know and it is that they have certain coaches, players and or course refs (see Donaghy) all in on it. It really is sad when i have to constantly read how bad the public is at wagering when in all reality they know what they are doing but are just to naive to figure out they are getting robbed by a bunch of greedy rotten cocksuckers who cheat for a living.

Joey, i enjoy betting MMA since the oddsmakers haven't quite found out a way to rig it unless it goes to a decision and then their judges can take over. I love how people cry that the judges don't know how to score MMA. I would bet my last dollar that this same argument will be taken place 20 years from now with people not realizing theses pricks do indeed know how to judge it, but unfortunately there is gambling involved in the equation, where u can get away with shady shit aka buying judges.

 

[Oddessa]

Its all good guys. Frank summed it up. Money corrupts on every level.

In this world of technology and information its not always the smartest guy in the room that's the best and likewise the market doesnt always reflect the sides the books need. (guessing the NYK game mighta been an example..but been so busy I thought Lin was the Jeremy on Celeb rehab till a cpl weeks ago.)

Here is quote that kinda sums up how I look at the world of wagering...its a bit out there..but it's only book I read more was Machiavelli & 21st century interpretations of it.

At the end of the day, great advertising is just like great movie making. No great research has ever made a movie; no great research has ever made a television show. You can tweak things, see if something is working a certain way, so yes, research can test "Is this communicating what I think it communicates?" You might think it does, but if 20 people say, "I don't get it," well, you've got to pay attention to that. But you can't listen if 20 people go, "I think it's this" or "You should do this" or "I like this." The best creative products?and this goes for television programming also, this goes for news organizations?use research appropriately and intelligently, but give me that great gut every time. And that's what separates the men from the boys.

~Donny Deutsch

Good luck this week gents. Recognize the traps.

 

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Cleverly/Karpency

Cleverly/Karpency

What with the discussion regarding Carl Froch's stupidity exposing his family's betting conspiracy, I am unsure about the rounds here. Karpency last fought a year ago, versus a 10-16 guy who lost his last 4 of 6. In real tough!!! Before that a 3-7 guy losing 5 of 6. WTF! So now he travels to the UK to fight Clevery, who sports a decent 50% KO ratio. Not a true banger, but versus Karpency? Prop lined at 9.5-120 both. So what I think is Clevery could get rid of this slouch if he really wants. Wish I could speak to some of his family and friends and find out what the plan is! Frank warren promised this fight as a gift to Clevery when he beat Bellew. This a home coming showcase deal and Karpency is flying across the pond to LOSE! Everyone knows it, including Karpency. Karpency is a big mook and awkward. Likes to clinch and just won't go away quietly. Maybe I'll just forget the round prop altogether.