Unlike his boxness, I post a week or two in advance in order to gather as much info as possible. Also, I noticed as soon as I post, the line moves against me, so someone must figure I am the best fade candidate out there. Good. I like Karmazin big here. A number of reasons. Spinks has fought at 147 for quite some time. Off OVER a year. I love these guys who get whooped then go up in weight and figure they will be "stronger" and not drained by having to make weight. Yea, well, Karmazin has been a lt. middle and is taller. He too has had a long layoff. I think Cory's peaking days are over so, he is taking a shot at anything to save his fledgling career. I feel the bigger man will prevail here. OK, I'll wait a while till the money starts coming in on Spinks so I can a better price on Karmazin. Whoever it is, thank you in advance.
Boxing; 07/08/2006; Karmazin-Spinks
- Thread starter frank s.
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I agree that Karmazin will win, basically for the reasons you already stated. But Im not to sure there will be alot of money for Spinks. Like you said Spinks is moving up, had a long lay off, got pounded by Judah. Where as Karmazin had a career best performance against Ouma.
Before 2000, Spinks was fighting at 140
Karmazin has been at 154 his entire career and he's 2" taller with a slight reach advantage, obviously the much bigger guy here
HOWEVER
Karmazin's best win was a bit of a fluke, Ouma had the flue coming into the fight but decided to go ahead with it. He obviously wasn't himself in that fight.
Spinks has a huge advantage in handspeed here. In the Judah fight, the handspeed was about even. Obviously I don't see Cory trading much with the bigger guy, he had no power at 147 and he'll have even less effect on a true 154 lber with a solid chin. So I expect Spinks to use his speed and boxing skills to avoid exchanges with the bigger, stronger guy. If his plan works, this fight will definitly go the distance, that means trouble for Karmazin backers. The fight is in Spinks hometown and Don King is promoting it, as far as I know Spinks is still a King fighter so he could lose every round and still get the decision.
Laying wood against a King fighter in his home town while giving up handspeed is definitly risky business.
I think you got the right guy, but there's alot going against Karmazin in this spot. And his defining win was against Ouma who was obviously not right in that fight.
Just giving you my honest opinion
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Karmazin has been at 154 his entire career and he's 2" taller with a slight reach advantage, obviously the much bigger guy here
HOWEVER
Karmazin's best win was a bit of a fluke, Ouma had the flue coming into the fight but decided to go ahead with it. He obviously wasn't himself in that fight.
Spinks has a huge advantage in handspeed here. In the Judah fight, the handspeed was about even. Obviously I don't see Cory trading much with the bigger guy, he had no power at 147 and he'll have even less effect on a true 154 lber with a solid chin. So I expect Spinks to use his speed and boxing skills to avoid exchanges with the bigger, stronger guy. If his plan works, this fight will definitly go the distance, that means trouble for Karmazin backers. The fight is in Spinks hometown and Don King is promoting it, as far as I know Spinks is still a King fighter so he could lose every round and still get the decision.
Laying wood against a King fighter in his home town while giving up handspeed is definitly risky business.
I think you got the right guy, but there's alot going against Karmazin in this spot. And his defining win was against Ouma who was obviously not right in that fight.
Just giving you my honest opinion
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And I appreciate it. I smell fish, but even the best laid plans of mice, etc. So we see some home cooking, eh? Perhaps. Don, the felon, King had HUGE plans for ole Zabby, but they went south fast. I haven't committed just yet. I'll wait till $ comes in on Spinks, then I'll see.
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5dimes posted props on this fight...
Light Middleweight 12 rounds - Savvis Center, St. Louis, Missouri - Showtime
Jul-8 911 ROMAN KARMAZIN (BOXING) o11? -260 -175
10:00 PM 912 CORY SPINKS (BOXING) u11? +220 +155
Jul-8 10911 KARMAZIN WINS INSIDE DISTANCE +300
10:00 PM 10912 NOT KARMAZIN INSIDE DISTANCE -360
Jul-8 11911 KARMAZIN WINS BY 12 RND DECISION +164
10:00 PM 11912 NOT KARMAZIN BY 12 RND DECISION -189
Jul-8 12911 SPINKS WINS INSIDE DISTANCE +1005
10:00 PM 12912 NOT SPINKS INSIDE DISTANCE -1510
Jul-8 13911 SPINKS WINS BY 12 RND DECISION +230
10:00 PM 13912 NOT SPINKS BY 12 RND DECISION -270
Jul-8 14911 KARMAZIN/SPINKS DRAW +1600
10:00 PM 14912 FIGHT NOT A DRAW -2500
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Bump...
With all the World Cup and Wimbledon posts...this thread got lost in the shuffle
5dimes posted props on this fight...
Light Middleweight 12 rounds - Savvis Center, St. Louis, Missouri - Showtime
Jul-8 911 ROMAN KARMAZIN (BOXING) o11? -260 -175
10:00 PM 912 CORY SPINKS (BOXING) u11? +220 +155
Jul-8 10911 KARMAZIN WINS INSIDE DISTANCE +300
10:00 PM 10912 NOT KARMAZIN INSIDE DISTANCE -360
Jul-8 11911 KARMAZIN WINS BY 12 RND DECISION +164
10:00 PM 11912 NOT KARMAZIN BY 12 RND DECISION -189
Jul-8 12911 SPINKS WINS INSIDE DISTANCE +1005
10:00 PM 12912 NOT SPINKS INSIDE DISTANCE -1510
Jul-8 13911 SPINKS WINS BY 12 RND DECISION +230
10:00 PM 13912 NOT SPINKS BY 12 RND DECISION -270
Jul-8 14911 KARMAZIN/SPINKS DRAW +1600
10:00 PM 14912 FIGHT NOT A DRAW -2500
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