Boxing 1/24

[BOXLOCKS]

Bojado-Clottey over 9 -135 1 unit (winner)
Gatti-Branco over 9 +145 1/2 unit (winner)
Williams over Sprott -330 1/2 unit (loser)

Bojado has gone the distance in 4 of his last 6, and 5 of his last 6 have either gone the distance or lasted more than 9 rounds.

Clottey is a tough customer who has only been ko'd once (Alex Trajillo tko 7). If that worries you remember that Bojado twice went the distance with Rubio who didn't last 2 rounds with Teddy Ried and was tko'd in the 8th round by Juan Lopez. Bojado recently went the distance with Lemuel Nelson who didn't last 2 rounds with Freitas and was tko'd in the 10th by David Armstrong???

In my opinion Bojado's power is over-rated and he hasn't looked so good when up against decent competition. Clottey has more experience and has fought tougher competiton. He ko'd Mohammad Abdulaev two fights ago (after the 9th round) and is managed by Lou Duva who wouldn't waste his time on a scrub. I expect Clottey to make this a tough fight and at the very least hang in there for the required 9 rounds. The fight is scheduled for 12 so both fighters should pace themselves enough to push this over.

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[gardenweasel]

agree

agree

alex trujillo has one loss...to tough,tough javier jauregui.....and i`d probably take trujillo in a rematch....or at least give it strong consideration....i think trujillo might win a championship one day....

that said,bojado fights a little more tentatively since losing to rubio.....i think he realized that he had stamina issues....he was so used to blowing cupcakes out in a few rounds... he was used up heading down the stretch vs rubio...

i think this is a favorable line.....and clottey`s riding high after upsetting mohammad abdulaev....

Jan 21 2:45pm Boxing - Pending
1. Boxing - January 24, 2004
Bojado vs Clottey
Francisco Bojado vs Emmanuel Clottey will go
Over 9 rounds (-135) [pending

inquiring minds think alike...although i deleted the amount.....didn`t want to embarrass myself...:nono:

wish i knew a little more about gianluca branco..... was looking at over 7.5 at 5 dimes......gatti has fought mickey ward 3 times in a row......that`s like 2 years fighting vs only one style....if branco is a boxer(and he almost has to be),maybe he can dick around for 7 or 8 rounds....he sure can`t punch....

but,anybody that got a thorough boxing lesson from angel manfredy and was outhustled twice by pitty-pat punching ivan robinson ain`t an elite fighter.....the guy has lost 5 of his last 12 fights....2 of his last 5.......

those wins over a mediocre ward seem to have turned gatti into godzilla......buddy mcgirt has helped,no doubt...but gatti is gatti....

the down side?.......branco hasn`t fought in over 14 months....and his last 2 were 6 rounders......wtf?.......

wish i knew just a little more about branco....

i can`t see mcgirt taking a chance with huge money fights on the horizon...

they`re teasing me...l.oke

g.l.

 

[gardenweasel]

one last thing

one last thing

on bojado/clottey.....bojado AND clottey are affiliated with main events(i.e. lou duva and shelley finkel).......and,we know that main events is counting on bojado as one of their future big time meal tickets.....

so,although i played the over 9 myself,i played it very small....i don`t see duva and finkel allowing one of their lesser lights to topple their golden boy....particularly when he has already stumbled once....i wouldn`t trust that fat f-ck duva as far as i could throw him.....

just a heads up....

g.l.

 

[BOXLOCKS]

Adding

Adding

Williams over Sprott -330 1/2 unit

Williams has already beat Sprott TWICE, tko 5 and tko 7

gl bl

 

[shamrock]

garden-although I see what your saying, as a personal friend of Micky Ward, I have to tell you, I take exception you calling him a "over the hill punching bag". In a sport laiden with corruption, bs, and bag jobs, Micky has given the sport every thing he has for over 30 years. Guy has never ducked anyone, always comes to fight, and has fought anybody HBO or ESPN or anyone else could put in their with him. Problem is even in his late 30' s most wouldn't take fights with him. That's because he'll fight anyone, even going into his final 2 years you'd be surprised amount of people said no to HBO 2 fighting him.

Fwiw-Micky feels Gatti should roll right through this guy. As he said Gatti only has to catch boxes at this weight once, then night over. Buddy will have Gatti ready & completely prepared, that is not a issue at all. Curious about your figures on Gatti, if you have a second, how many of those losses are pre buddy Mcgrit, because that is a gigantic difference.

Good luck
shamrock

 

[BOXLOCKS]

I just read that Williams spent more time showboating than he did boxing. One report said that it was a very contraversial decision that may have been swayed by Williams antics. I hate losing a bet do to a fighter not taking his job seriously. This reminds me of the Judah-Corely fight where Zab proved to be the superior fighter but spent so much time f*cking around he turned one of the judges against him and slipped by with a split decision.

Anyway, on to tonights action:

Adding Gatti-Branco over 9 +145 1/2 unit

Like GW, I have have been looking at this one for a while. What pushed me into going for it was the +145, a very generous line on an over when the fighter expected to get ko'd, has never been ko'd. The other thing that got my attention was the substancial line movement at 5dimes against Gatti (-1000 to -800 as of right now). Gatti went the distance in all three of his last fights against Ward, and this one is scheduled for 12 so they should pace themselves. Branco doesn't have any power so I don't expect him to press the action against a guy like Gatti. Branco knows that to win this fight he will have to outbox Gatti, not stand and trade. I really like the +145, but if you are willing to lay the juice you can get the over 7.5 -135 at 5dimes. But I think if it goes 7.5, it will go 9.

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[gardenweasel]

shammy

shammy

that was harsh....and i apologize.....let me clarify....

ward isn`t a punching bag....but,stylistically,and being in the twilight of his career,he was the perfect opponent for gatti....

that said,and with my apology hopefully accepted,i have to be honest.....gatti,for some reason,is being called a future all time great in some circles....

i noted his recent record above....sure,gatti and ward had some great,great fights....classics,for sure.......but,although mickey ward has the heart of a lion,and is a true credit to boxing,he wasn`t even a top ten jr welter when he fought gatti....

i have no problem with ward...i love the guy...i have to say that when i heard he was getting a million dollar payday for the rematch with gatti i was happy as a clam....the guy epitomizes everything good about boxing...

but,as a serious boxing follower,i`m a little perplexed by the how over estimated gatti has become because of his wins over mickey ward....

gatti is gatti...he can beat some of the near contenders....but,he`s not beating the top guys...that`s a fact....

and i`m not entirely sure that gatti has fought anyone OTHER than mickey since coming under mcgirt`s tutelage....maybe he was there for gatti`s win over terron millett(i`m hate to disparage millett...but,he`s shot)....

i made a mistake by labeling ward the way i did...ward did nothing to deserve that kind of comment..it was thoughtless on my part.....i actually feel bad about the comment...and i`m gonna delete the remark if it`s possible....

you were correct in calling me on it....was not an accurate repesentation of ward...labeling ward like that was pathetic on my part and i don`t know what i was thinking...

i think i over reacted when i read an article labeling gatti a cult figure and an alltime great,i was a little miffed.......he`s not....

but,gatti and ward both belong in the "class and heart" hall of fame...

we`ll see if mcgirt`s training helps gatti vs the tszyu`s,mitchell`s and judah`s of the world....i honestly doubt,at first glance,that gatti beats ricky hatton or vivan harris......

i saw omar sheika revert back to his old ways last night despite mcgirt`s help....

we`ll see....

again, my bad for the ward comment...i know better...

g.l.

 

[BOXLOCKS]

Possible Middle

Possible Middle

Playing the Gatti over 9 rounds +145 lay .5 to win .7
and Gatti by ko -200 lay .8 to win .4, setting up a three
round middle to cash both ways and only risking .1 units.

gl bl

 

[shamrock]

gw- Micky honestly is one of the most honest stand up guys I have ever met in my life. Certainly not blessed with the raw tools many boxes are, the guy gave every living ounce of everything he had to become a above average professionals that will bang with anyone, that's exactly how he classified himself. Thankfully he finally made some money before he had to retire.

the guy has in boxing since age 7 around Lowell Boston & New England. He used to have very good power in both hands until his right hand was demolished in a bar dispute in the early 90s, one cop held his hand on the bar while another crushed it with a night stick. Couldn't fight after that, hand kept breaking. Finally Dr. took part of his hip and grafted it a into his hand. Although never the same the hand was serviceable enough to start fighting again. That's how he developed that double left hook that took so many people out late in his career. Most out those guys you mentioned above turned down fights with Micky, Mitchell, Hatton, Harris & Judah. I personally spoke with Judah during one of Micky s fights at FoxWoods and Judah told me personally he would never fight Ward again. His words not my, he said nobody in this Division hits close to as hard as Micky Ward. He told me, if your fighting that guy you better be ready because "it's like being thrown off a boat in the middle of the ocean and finding out there is no life jacket." became a issue of nothing to gain everything to lose by fighting Micky. Only one that was worth it was Gatti because public money demanded it.

I think buddy has done wonders for Gatti, and honestly I'd be shocked if he looks that Rusty. From what I have heard, people aren't exactly jumping in line to get at Gatti either. In any case enjoy the fights tonight, I know you will, I know you are a knowledgeable boxing guy, good luck with your plays.

Shamrock

 

[gardenweasel]

good night

good night

both overs hit.......some good ones coming up...

btw...i felt like an even bigger heel about my ward comments after seeing the segment about ward after the 3rd gatti fight.....

all i can say is i had major league a brainfart, made a stupid comment and was rightfully chastised....shamrock,thanks for pulling me up....i felt like a dog sitting in my clubroom,all comfy watching ward getting mri`s and stitches after the 3rd gatti fight....and i`m very happy that mickey`s done fighting...he has nothing more to prove....particularly to as-holes like me....

having a few beers didn`t hurt,either(i`m copping out and blaming it on the brew)..:drinky: :lol:

nice night for the good guys....some good ones coming up....

g.l..

 

[hemiscatpak]

missed the boxing this weekend (rats! ) Anyway, so how did you do BL?:shrug:

 

[BOXLOCKS]

The Bojado and Gatti fights easily went the distance for +1.725 units, but I layed 1.65 on Williams who lost a contraversial decision so I only won some pocket change. But I threw Gatti -800 into a parlay, so I should cash in a little more later.

If you followed my picks last year you know my over/under plays were very strong, but I lost some hard earned units on heavy favorites. So I told myself if Williams lost I would never play a side over -300 again. From now on I will post mostly totals with an occasional small favorite and live dog, saving the heavy favorites for parlays.

bl

 

[seymour]

Boxlocks, are you looking at either of these fights tonight? Both are on HBO - good luck if so.

 

[BOXLOCKS]

I'm not posting any actual plays for tonight, but I will throw out a possible middle play for anyone that might be interested:

Margarito-Kyvelos over 8.5 -135
Margarito-Kyvelos fight will not go the distance -135
(you can get both of these at 5 dimes)

I was thinking about laying .675 to make a 1/2 unit on each,
one has to win and you have a 3.5 round middle to hit both ways on a late round stoppage, which is very possible.

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