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Fights:

Mid week

South Africa
Thomas Oosthuizen vs. Francisco Sierra
Kaizer Mabuza vs. Steven Wills

Friday

Scotland
Willie Limond vs. Anthony Crolla
Kris Carslaw vs. Matthew Hall

Saturday

Mexico
Saul Alvarez vs.Kermit Cintron
Francisco Cordero vs. Daniel Estrada
Gilberto Sanchez vs.Samuel Miller
Andres Gutierrez vs. Franklin Varela

Sunday

US
Adrien Broner vs. Vicente Rodriguez
Gary Russell vs. Heriberto Ruiz

Mexico
Jorge Arce vs. Angky Angkotta
Juan Rosas vs. Zolani Tete
 
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Current odds

Anthony Crolla -425
Willie Limond +325

Saul Alvarez -800
Kermit Cintron +600

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Cotto/Margarito; something very important to consider....

Cotto/Margarito; something very important to consider....

Following is some info regarding the state of Margarito's eye condition and how it may effect his ability to mount an effective challenge to Cotto.
The NYSAC is concerned with the safety of Margarito's surgically repaired right eye. The Mexican boxer injuried the eye during last November's severe beating at the hands of Manny Pacquiao. He underwent surgery in May, during which an articial lens was inserted into the eye.
An intraocular lens (IOL) is an implanted lens in the eye, usually replacing the existing crystalline lens because it has been clouded over by a cataract, or as a form of refractive surgery to change the eye's optical power. It usually consists of a small plastic lens with plastic side struts, called haptics, to hold the lens in place within the capsular bag inside the eye.[citation needed] IOLs were traditionally made of an inflexible material (PMMA), although this has largely been superseded by the use of flexible materials. Most IOLs fitted today are fixed monofocal lenses matched to distance vision. However, other types are available, such as multifocal IOLs which provide the patient with multiple-focused vision at far and reading distance, and adaptive IOLs which provide the patient with limited visual accommodation.OL implantation carries several risks associated with eye surgeries, such as infection, loosening of the lens, lens rotation, inflammation and night time halos, but a systematic review of studies has determined that the procedure is safer than conventional laser eye treatment.[1] Though IOLs enable many patients to have reduced dependence on glasses, most patients still rely on glasses for certain activities, such as reading.
Note the part about "loosening" of the lens"!!! Is a loose eyeball a good thing for a boxer?
 
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Alvarez/Cintron

Alvarez/Cintron

At -800 to -950, Canelo Alvarez is one pricey mo-fo. The odds may reflect the truth, but I have a little doubt. Cintron has seen the better opposition, but lately he leaves a lot to be desired. A little taller than Alvarez and probably a reach advantage also. He may not have the advantage in mental toughness, though. I really thought he lost his last fight versus Smith. I watched it very closely, and after the decision, Cintron was jumping for joy. He looked like crap in that fight. I thought if he thinks THAT was a terrific performance, this kid may be delusional. Cintron is with Ronnie Shields now so maybe that will help? I need to see props and want to hear more opinions. Smith, by the way, was 5'7", and has been on the "cupcake" circuit for his whole career. Cintron beat a tomato can, and lost his last 2 in a row previous to that "sterling" win over Smith, the lollipop. More I look at this, more I see some rounds, maybe a late stoppage, in favor of Canelo.
 
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i see kermit folding faster than a cheap suit

even faster than a cheap tent made in from

penguin's suit more durable than kermit
 
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omg, that avatar!

You lose your bet, and we all get punished.... :facepalm: ;-)


@frank
He most definately doesnt have the advantage in mental toughness...IMO thats his greatest weakness!

You would have never thought that the odds would be like this a few years ago, but now..........

Any love for Crolla!?
 
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Cintron has not looked good as of late as we all know. And we know he's a bit mentally fragile. And I doubt he'll win this but i do think he is stronger as a Jr. middleweight. Don't understand why a veteran would drop weight in the twilight of his career. Despite the weird ending, I think he may have upset Paul Williams at 154. He beat Perro and he did go 12 with champ Sergio martinez although he might have been stopped but for a strange call. Not crazy about Ronnie Shields but it's really up to how strong Cintron is at Jr. middle. Hard to imagine Cintron has had a complete physical collapse. We'll see what happens. If anything, it's intriguing.
 
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Evan Young said:
Cintron has not looked good as of late as we all know. And we know he's a bit mentally fragile. And I doubt he'll win this but i do think he is stronger as a Jr. middleweight. Don't understand why a veteran would drop weight in the twilight of his career. Despite the weird ending, I think he may have upset Paul Williams at 154. He beat Perro and he did go 12 with champ Sergio martinez although he might have been stopped but for a strange call. Not crazy about Ronnie Shields but it's really up to how strong Cintron is at Jr. middle. Hard to imagine Cintron has had a complete physical collapse. We'll see what happens. If anything, it's intriguing.
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I think "mental" collapse may be the real issue. Like I said, if you saw his last fight versus Smith, a 5'7" marshmellow, you would see what I'm saying. Cintron was ecstatic after this "sterling" victory. Smith was/is a tomato can and Kermit thought he had accomplished something. This kid is a legend in his own mind. His illusions will be shattered as soon as Canelo tags him.
 
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Well, I give Smith a bit more credit than you. Actually, if it was a 12 rounder I think smith would have won. I think Cintron is like a box aof chocolates - never sure wht we might get. And I think he's strogner at 54. If it makes a difference, we'll find out.
 
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I was commenting on Smith's quality of past opposition. A journeyman at best. Had a 4" height disadvantage to boot. I saw Smith as a hand picked patsy that a head case like Cintron would beat. I see crash and burn for the "frogman".
 
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fastfrank said:
I think "mental" collapse may be the real issue. Like I said, if you saw his last fight versus Smith, a 5'7" marshmellow, you would see what I'm saying. Cintron was ecstatic after this "sterling" victory. Smith was/is a tomato can and Kermit thought he had accomplished something. This kid is a legend in his own mind. His illusions will be shattered as soon as Canelo tags him.
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canelo looks like free money

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or is it fool's gold :0008
 
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Even a broken clock is right twice a day. Cintron may possibly have one or even two good efforts left in him, but I'm of the opinion he is damaged goods. I say he most likely looks good out of the gate, but cracks under pressure. If Alvarez is taking this seriously and trained well, he
should take this. Round prop is 8.5 over , like -170 or so. I think it could go that far.
 
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Current plays

Current plays

Crolla / Willie Limond not the distance +120
-> looking for more options...

Crolla should win, prop. inside (maybe late rounds), but he is very expensive as a straight play... (added him in one parlay but a small one at better odds).
Limond, is a "good" and experianced fighter and he is o home ground... as it will be difficult for him to win inside, the pts lines are maybe intersting / draw... I will have to give it a deeper thought.

Saul Alvarez vs Kermit Cintron is a difficult one and all will depends on the offered lines from my point of view. (being a value investors^^)
I already made 2 bets but want to give you the final picture :toast:

Cheers
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