Boxing - Ali Vs Martin

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"Countdown has begun for the biggest fight in female boxing history.

Laila Ali, proclaimed the best fighter on the planet, faces the hard-hitting Christy Martin, who held that distinction for many years until recently.

Both fighters will meet in nine days for the IBA super middleweight title, but more importantly the winner gains distinction as the best women's fighter in the world at the Mississippi Coast Coliseum on Aug. 23. The fight will be shown live on pay-per-view around the world.

Martin's agreement to fight a much heavier and taller Ali matches more than just the best fighters, it brings together two icons in the sport who may have never met without assistance from another woman icon of the sport.

When Martin stepped in a Detroit arena to face Mia Rosales-St. John last December, before several hundred fans, many boxing observers scoffed at the match. Some experts, including Hall of Fame trainer Emanuel Steward, predicted the Mexican-American boxer would not last 30 seconds. Instead, Rosales-St. John moved deftly around the ring much to the chagrin of Martin.

"I sparred only nine rounds before the Mia fight," said Martin (45-2-2, 31 KOs), not wishing to detract from Rosales-St. John's accomplishment of lasting the entire scheduled 10 rounds. "I don't mean that as disrespect to Mia, because I thought Mia fought one hell of a fight. But you know that's not the same Christy Martin."

With a twinkle in her eye, Martin contends she was setting the bait for Ali.

"It brought interest from Laila. Before that fight they would not talk to us," said Martin, 35, who intends to train harder than any fight before. "After that the phone starts ringing."

After hearing of Martin's contention Ali fumed.

"She is going to come up here and try to act liked she tricked me into this fight?" said Ali (15-0, 12 KOs). "I don't want to hear no drama - I don't want to hear no excuses, what I expect is for her to come into the ring."

Ali, 25, the beautiful daughter of boxing great Muhammad Ali, scorched through the super middleweight division in the last two years with riveting victories over title-holders who served as minor road bumps for the 5-10 fighter with hand speed, power and looks that can kill.

Though many daughters of famous fighters have entered the ring, only Ali has emerged as comparable to her father in terms of boxing skills. But she hasn't gained her style from her father.

"You can't study my dad and try to be like him. He did so many things wrong," said Ali. "I happened to watch one of his old fights, it was against George Foreman on ESPN, and I was like, God, they were like so slow and so lazy. But the outcome was good, you know what I mean?"

"I've still got my camp trying to show me to do the (Ali) shuffle," said Ali grinning as she recalled the futile attempts. "They tell me ?if you do it Laila you'll blow up.' I'm not thinking about shuffling. I'm thinking about winning."

Ali has picked up three world title belts but has another goal on her mind when she steps into the Mississippi heat next week against Martin.

"It's going to elevate women's boxing," said Ali, who wants to bring her sport to the forefront.

The 168-pound champion has learned much about the sport through her husband and promoter Johnny McClain and through trainer Roger Mayweather. But her father, who is considered the greatest heavyweight of all time, gave her one important tip.

"My dad basically is more concerned about the public and how I'm perceived by the public and not to let my head get too big," Ali said.

"It's great, you have the two most famous women getting in the ring to fight each other," said Rosales-St. John. "Laila is a lot bigger and a lot heavier, but I don't think she can knock out Christy. I don't think anyone can knock out Christy Martin. She's too tough."

"It's going to be really difficult for Christy to get inside that jab of Laila's," said Rosales-St. John. "She's got the best jab."

"I expect a great fight by the two," said Rosales-St. John. "Christy Martin has so much experience. She's been in a lot of tough fights and that should help her against Laila. But Laila is young and so talented. I really think it's going to make boxing history."

There have been comparisons made of the Roy Jones Jr. fight against the heavier John Ruiz, but Ali says it's not an applicable comparison.

"It's not the same situation here. It would be different if I was a slow pressure fighter that didn't know anything and Christy Martin is this great fast fighter. But that's not the case," said Ali. "It's going to seem a little bit silly after the fight. I know she's going to go in there and try and take my head off. Actually, it ain't going to be too silly."

Martin, who has fought professionally since 1989, has more knockout victories than Ali has total fights. The key difference is the size where Ali has dominated her weight class and Martin is entering for the first time in her career.

"The last girls I fought, except for Mia, they were all champions. They're all tough because they all fight their best fight against me. It's their super bowl for everybody," said Martin who feels this kind of experience prepares her for the athletic Ali. "I don't know if I can stop her, she's a big girl. But she might stop herself because she might be so overaggressive and so angry with me that she's going to come in there and punch herself out. I'm going to be in great condition, my experience will kick in and I'll be able to take over in the late rounds."

Ali, who discovered female professional boxing when she saw Martin and Dierdre Gogarty fight in 1996, predicts the fight will be end by knockout.

"I say it won't go past five," said Ali.

As she sat under the shade, looking toward a hill filled with green vegetation, a smile emerged as she contemplated the upcoming fight.

"The best thing about this is we get to throw punches," Ali said. "We get to get in there and actually get it on."
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This should be a good cat fight
 

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Hey dont anyone sell this Christy Martin short. This is one tough fighter for a lady.

I dont think that Christy can knock out Ali.

I have also seen Christy take a pounding in fights and not go down.

These two can both do ten rounds in their sleep.

Alot of pride will be in the ring when these two fight.

Only thing is pride don't knock people out.

Ali wins by decision.

2 Units

I am also playing the over 9.5 rds

2 Units


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KOD
Going against Fletcher?
Women only fight 2 minute rounds,
you've got that going for you.

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Yeh up against the big dog fletcher in this fight.

Martin stays low and it will be very hard for Ali to get to her for a knockout. Martin is a good defensive fighter in my books.

I think these two can last 20 minutes standing up.

We will see come Saturday. I think its on PPV .

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"Martin Bails Out Early at Press Conference!

Unlike the first press conference, in which Laila Ali and Christy Martin knocked over podiums and people to get at each other, there was little excitement at yesterday's gathering after Martin walked out early. "I'll just have to talk for both of us," Ali said after Martin left after a brief opening statement. She went on:

"This a big fight because I've always said that what women's boxing needs is the names. People want to know who's fighting," Ali told the media. "What makes a fight big is when your opponent is known. She has fans. I have fans. People have seen her fight, they've seen me fight. They know her skills, they know mine. They want to see us fight each other."
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Just take your time Laila just take your time. You got ten rounds to win this fight.

Hey Laila Ali , you aint giving her much respect with only 15 fights against mostly chumps. Lets face it there is no one in womans fight game she can fight. Now she has someone that has many more rounds than her. No way she takes Martin out by KO. Martin is pissed off now and she will make a good showing.


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"I'm going to be in great condition, my experience will kick in and I'll be able to take over in the late rounds."/ Christy Martin


When a fighter makes this statement before the fight
its destiny she expects to go the distance.

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I will tell you one thing.

If either one of these ladies wrapped their legs around your
head you wouldnt come up for air until New Years.


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Ali wins by decision.

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I am also playing the over 9.5 rds

2 Units

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Adding on 2 units to the over 9.5 rounds.

Playing this for 4 units.

I feel really good about this fish fight going the distance.


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I SMELL FISH AND IT SMELLS GREEN


I just ordered the fight on Direct TV for 29.95

Now just got to sit back and watch the over come home
to the big dog.


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Sorry but I think my own mama could knock these two ladies out. Holy shit that one on the left is my mama !
 
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On December 10, 1999 at the Cobo Center Riverfront Ballroom in Detroit, Michigan, a crowd of over 2,200 saw Ali, who weighed in at 166 lbs, win by second-round TKO over Nicolyn Armstrong (179 lbs), who dropped to 1-4.

Laila (160 lbs) moved to 4-0 with 4 KO's by knocking out Crystal Arcand (169 lbs) of St. Paul, Alberta, Canada at 1:10 in the first round. Arcand, a former Toughwoman competitor who was making her pro debut after going 5-0 in amateur action, came out swinging wildly.

On April 8, 2000 at the Joe Louis Arena in Detroit, Michigan, Laila (168 lbs) got the biggest scare so far in her brief boxing career on the way to a controversial third-round TKO of Karen Bill (166 lbs) of Lawton, Oklahoma. Bill knocked Ali down with an uppercut in the second round Laila showed she had come to fight by getting up and storming back, but she was still getting pummelled in fierce action at round's end. The third round saw still more heated action with both women going all out and landing cleanly until the referee suddenly stopped the fight in Ali's favor. This drew boos from the crowd, who had been cheering the all-out effort of both boxers. Karen Bill had taken some punishment and was bleeding from the nose but she was in better shape than Ali had been during the second round, so the stoppage appeared premature.


On April 22, 2000 at Tian He stadium in Guangzhou (Canton), China, Ali next appeared in the first major pro boxing card held in China since the founding of the People's Republic. Laila (165 lbs) capped several days of being the publicity magnet for the card by battering Kristina King (166 lbs) to a TKO 0:37 seconds into the fourth round. The 30-year-old 5'8' King from Muskegon, Michigan had won her only other pro fight by second-round TKO on Jan 28, 2000 and had some Toughwoman contest experience.

Laila (173 lbs) moved her record to 7-0 (7 KO's) by knocking out a windmilling Marjorie Jones (179 lbs) of Milwaukee, Wisconsin at 1:08 of the first round. Ali knocked Jones down three times, the last time with a right to the head. Jones, a 48-year-old who had been boxing professionally for two years and had two wins by KO, fell to 2-5.

Ali was asked if she would fight Veronica Simmons, an accompished amateur boxer who's looking for professional fights on our "Ready to Rumble" page. Ali made it clear that Veronica's unbeaten amateur career makes her too hot for the "Greatest Daughter" to handle right now.

On October 20, 2000 at the Palace in Auburn Hills, Michigan, Ali (165? lbs) advanced to 8-0 (7 KO's) with a unanimous (58-56,58-56,60-54) six-round decision over KO specialst Kendra Lenhart. (6'1", 165? lbs) of Lenoir City, Tennessee, who fell to 6-8-1 (6 KO's). This was Ali's first fight to go the distance. Lenhart, a former IFBA world title challenger, rocked Ali and bruised her face with several swinging shots to the head. A hard Lenhart right knocked Ali's mouthpiece out of the ring with 20 seconds left in the second round and Lenhart hurt Ali with a left-right combination in the third.

On March 2, 2001 at the Turning Stone Casino in Verona, New York, Ali moved her pro record to 9-0 (8 KO's) when she knocked out Christine Robinson of Lexington, South Carolina with a barrage of rights and a left uppercut at 1:50 in the fifth round. Robinson absorbed Ali's right repeatedly in the early rounds but she hung tough and landed a few hard rights of her own in the third. Ali became more aggressive and started leading with a left jab, keeping her right cocked, ready for an opening. Robinson then matched Ali punch for punch in the fourth, but Ali got the upper upper hand when she backed Robinson into a corner in the fifth. Ali threw a barrage of rights then put Robinson down for the count with a powerful left. Robinson fell to 2-5 (1 KO) with the loss.


In fact, Ali vs. Frazier IV was an entertaining toe-to-toe slugfest. Frazier-Lyde (164 lbs) rose to the occasion of her first truly testing fight and took Ali (160? lbs) to a hard-fought eight-round majority decision. The scorecards were 77-75 and (an, in my view, absurd) 79-73 for Ali, while one card had it a draw at 76-76. Frazier-Lyde started aggressively but Ali won the middle rounds.

She returned to competition on June 7, 2002 at the DeSoto Civic Center in Southaven, Mississippi. Weighing in at 164 lbs and ranked #2, she cruised to a six-round unanimous decision over #17 Ranked Shirvelle Williams (159 lbs) of St.Petersburg, Florida. Williams ate left-right combinations and jabs throughout the bout after Ali took charge in the opening round with several hard rights. Williams tired in the middle of the fight but rallied in the fifth and sixth, only to eat more left-right combinations and body shots. Williams landed a hard right in the sixth but Ali responded quickly with a booming left to the head. Williams ended the fight with a battered left eye and fell to 4-3-0 (2 KO).

On August 17, 2002 at Aladdin Hotel and Casino, in Las Vegas, Nevada, Laila (165? lbs) won her first world title, the IBA Super Middleweight belt, before a capacity crowd and a national PPV audience. Ali TKO'd #5 ranked super middleweight Suzette Taylor (166 lbs) of Las Vegas at 1:11 in the second round. Referee Kenny Bayless halted the scheduled 10-rounder after titleholder Taylor absorbed a barrage of unanswered punches. Taylor fell to 10-7-1, (7 KOs).

On November 8, 2002 at the Stratosphere Events Center in Las Vegas, Nevada, Laila (167 lbs) won by a TKO at 1:14 in the eighth round over IWBF and WIBA Super Middleweight champion Valerie Mahfood (161 lbs) of Groves, Texas in a triple title-unification bout. This win clearly showed any remaining doubters that Ali has grown in skills to match her hype. Mahfood fell to 13-5-0 (7 KO).

On February 14, 2003 at Louisville Gardens in Louisville, Kentucky, fighting in her dad's original home town, Laila (167 lbs) TKO'd FBRR #2 ranked middleweight Mary Ann Almager (5'8", 168 lbs, the heaviest of her career) of Midland, Texas at 1:55 in the fourth round. Ali took the action to Almager in the opening round while still looking wary of Almager's southpaw stance and ring experience. Almager looked overmatched by by Ali's quickness and reach in the second, and was swinging her punches, looking to tag Ali with one haymaker. Almager kept swinging in the third while Ali threw precise combinations and kept her distance well. Almager faded as Ali picked her apart with body shots in the fourth and the fight was stopped with Mary Ann clearly out of gas against the ropes and hurting from a hard right to the midsection. [Fight Photos]
Ali is now 14-0-0 (11 KO) and the 34-year-old Almager, who came out of temporary retirement to take this fight, is 14-6-0 (9 KO).

On June 21, 2003 at Staples Center in Los Angeles, California, USA, Laila again stopped FBRR #2 ranked super middleweight Valerie Mahfood (168 lbs) of Groves, Texas, this time at 1:17 in the sixth round.

I just hope that networks like HBO take notice." She is now 15-0-0 (12 KO) while Mahfood fell to 13-6-0 (7 KO).
 

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"Karen Bill (166 lbs) of Lawton, Oklahoma. Bill knocked Ali down with an uppercut in the second round "


Ali can be hit also

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Hope you weren't holding your breath waiting
for "the over to come to the big dog"

What a f*cking joke!

Just think, all the "viewers" you had just lost
their ass, oh wait I forgot 500 of your views
were from yourself, what a loser!!!
 

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BOXLOCKS said:
Hope you weren't holding your breath waiting
for "the over to come to the big dog"

What a f*cking joke!

Just think, all the "viewers" you had just lost
their ass, oh wait I forgot 500 of your views
were from yourself, what a loser!!!


BOX

How did I know you would be here. I thought you announced your sorry ass was gone ?

Oh yeh did you move any more lines lately ?

I am just pissed Christy couldnt keep her stupid hands up. Oh well only two units lost. I will live to see another day.

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