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gardenweasel

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1)cauthen-quiles over 10(-300 ouch).......neither guy can punch....cauthen is a whippet.....quiles has hung in with some very big punchers.....quiles getting older(33)....but cauthen isn`t interested in hurting anybody...TWO southpaws so that may cut down on the possibility of headbutts....

QUILES IS 33-5 W/8 K.O.`S.....he has gone the distance with diobelys hurtado.....vince phillips....goyo vargas and ahmad santos.....all much better punchers than cauthen....cauthen will not stop quiles short of a freak cut....quiles last k.o. was in "98" vs a guy that was 0-8-1......he has one kayo over a .500 or better fighter(a nobody with a 7-4 record back in 1990)....

CAUTHEN IS 23-1 W/7 K.O.`S.......has one k.o. over a guy with an above .500 record.....eugene johnson was 4-2 when cauthen stopped him......he finished his career at 5-13-1......

cauthen can`t punch.....he`s a track star...had a good amateur career......but still fights like an amateur....to score points...sans a cut,he just won`t stop quiles...

quiles will chase cauthen....and not catch him....and if he does,i doubt he can stop him.....he just doesn`t punch hard...period...

-300 is a bit much for me....very scary odds....but the bookies know this one will probably go the full 10....surprised they posted it....i wasn`t going to post this until close to fight time.....i worry about shenanighans....but,i see b.l. posted it already,so,what the hell.....

2)tito ortiz-180 over randy couture...

a little off the beaten track for me....a ufc bout.....

simply put,ortiz has become a beast.....he is destroying everyone they put in front of him.....

couture was a fantastic fighter...guts and toughness....and he recently upset tough chuck liddell by k.o.....but,imo,liddell isn`t ortiz....

i don`t see him doing it twice.....couture is 40 oyrs old...and his stamina in bouts preceding the liddell bout was lacking...i believe the liddell bout and this bout is a step down in weight for couture.....and admittedly,couture will be fighting a smaller guy than he`s used to fighting

as much as i respect couture,i just think he may be biting off more than he can chew...

he will have to try and catch ortiz with a big shot....the longer it goes,the tougher it will be for couture....and i was sort of shocked to realize that oriz may actually a little bigger than couture.....i thought originally that couture was the bigger guy...

i`m expecting and hoping ortiz will take couture to the mat and ground and pound him much like he did with an old ken shamrock......father time is a bastard....couture will have to get lucky,imo.....

3)A "MAYBE" HEDGE BET.....i was kind of looking at a hedge bet with echols -180 or whatever the lowest odds you can find are with over 7 in this fight.....

the odds are moving our way.....everybody hitting the under....and some mundine sentiment.....

i think mundine has an outside shot.....at least to extend the bout.....echols has been off for over a year......has been shot in the interim(yes,a gunshot wound,although minor...lol)....is travelling to australia(mundine`s home).....mundine is a solid athlete and can box and punch a bit.....he has an excellent trainer in his dad tony sr.....i know they understand that mundine doesn`t want to stand and trade with echols....echols hits like a mule and takes an excellent shot also.....

but .ohhh that layoff....layoffs are murder......i expect echols to struggle some...at least early.....

i actually am a little worried about echols here....i think in the usa,we may be underestimating mundine because he was stopped by ottke....that,from all accounts was an exhaustion stoppage.....mundine was doing well in the bout....

if he has a stamina problem,maybe we get lucky and echols can walk him down in the later rounds.....hit it both ways...

this one is still in the "maybe" category.....

p.s...i had to edit this post as i listed jeff fenech as mundine`s mgr when he is in fact danny green`s mgr......gotta keep my aussie`s straight.....


4)jesus chavez -120 over sirimongkol singmanasak....the thai(don`t make me spell that name again)is 43-1........taller....from what i hear is a good fighter.....

but this one is in texas(chavez` home)....chavez is a very tough dude....his one legit loss was to floyd mayweather...the other was very early in his career....

this may be chavez` last shot at a world title....in his hometown.....he`s only 30....not an old guy....

the thai has an excellent record but it`s just not always the same fighting basically all your fights in thailand ,japan or korea......

i know there are some solid little fighters in asia,but,fightnews (ring has him #7) doesn`t have him rated in the top 12 jr lightweights in the world.....only one asian fighter made the top 12....and one mongolian(lakva sim).......i don`t believe that singmanasak is 43-1 at this point in his career fighting in america and mexico.....

i just have to believe chavez` people offered an arm and a leg to get this fight in their own backyard.....for the sole reason that this guy offers the path of least resisitance to a world title....

-120......has a sucker feel to it.....so,i`ll be a sucker....i like guys like chavez that are excellent,hard nosed fighters....i hope he gets his title....

if he doesn`t get it here,at home,vs the lesser of the champions that are out there,then he`s not gonna get it...

-120......i`m not gonna go broke if it doesn`t happen....

circumstances dictate that i take the shot.....

5)michael trabant -220...........a german fighting for a vacant title in his hometown of berlin......you know what that means......rivera will have to kill him to win......he`s 38-0 with 18 k.o.`s.....supposedly a very fit guy...goes rounds....not a big puncher,but pretty tough....

rivera has a good record,but,basically fighting middle to low echelon guys mostly in his home state of massachsetts..and mostly over the hill....he has a decision win over teddy reid back in 97....reid was 8-1 then....rivera was 24-1.....it was in massachusetts.....he`s fought twice in the last 21 months......not in over a year......but he get`s a box off for a potential championship?......has set-up written all over it...

fightnews ratings have trabant rated at #6......rivera nowhere to be found......he is rated in the wba....probably so he can get beaten by trabant....trabant was supposed to be in a title fight with legit contender thomas damgaard of denmark.....somehow,they fiddled their way around it.....

this guy rivera is not a world class guy....maybe trabant isn`t either....but,he`ll have to decapitate trabant to win in germany.....

..i can`t hit this as hard as i think i`d like to.....no cuts,please.......g.l.






i like some small ones but b.l. and fletch have some stuff up they are doing well....

might be back with more later.....

g.l.
 
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gardenweasel

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looking hard at

looking hard at

stevie johnston +170 vs tough juan lazcano(the hispanic causing panic)......lazcano is the bigger guy(3 inch height advantage)....only a few years younger,but,stevie has some hard miles on him....but lazcano doesn`t really use the height to his advantage....he likes to mix it up....

the bout is tough but giving johnston +170 is significant.....even if he loses,it`s tough to pass up a shot at those odds....

but,a loser pays nothing....

in las vegas...i don`t see a significant advantge there....

stevie`s lefty stance and good defense are a plus....lazcano likes to bang but isn`t necessarily a big,big puncher...

should be a hard,long fight..


lazcano`s natural size adntage may be to much....he will be banging stevie to the body.....but he tends to punch very wide and sometimes wild....that`s a bad idea against johnston.....if there`s still some gas left in the tank.....

a wide,wild puncher vs a natural counter puncher.... +170 to boot...worth the shot,imo..
 
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rolling along

rolling along

at 2-0 in this thread....i won`t put up as many bouts as some of the other guys on here...i just can`t recommend anything to anybody that i don`t feel strongly about....i don`t mind giving opinions...just don`t like asking guys to put money on stuff i don`t feel we have some sort of edge in....


fletch and b.l. do an excellent job posting on a more regular basis...

g.l.
 

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Great job, as usual.
I put a small play on this mostly
because you liked it so much. And it
didn't hurt when Fletcher added a play.

Congrats!

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gardenweasel

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thanks,partner..

thanks,partner..

i`m gonna try and post some info on beyer-green.....not sure when this goes off on american time.....usually a good deal earlier than our time..
 

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the hedge

the hedge

turned out to be golden.....the layoff,the venue,all the echols travel....gunshot wounds....talking about knockouts....when you try to hard for knockouts vs good fighters,they can be hard to come by.....

from all accounts,a good decision....mundine can box a bit....
 

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phew glad i took the hedge as well. also thinking echols would win by ko etc allowed me/us to not lay the odds of 2-1 as well thus avoiding losing money. sorta treaded water and time to look to the weekend and even bigger next weekend to make some. :)
 

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ishii took the pipe....

ishii took the pipe....

thank god for small odds....still feel blessed about the lerma over....sorry for any lost ishii money....

sorry for not being more involved....1st real week of football....g.l.
 

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well,time to step back and take a breath

well,time to step back and take a breath

trabant loses a majority decision in germany......if anybody saw this and wagered on it,i humbly and completely apologize..i stuck it in as an edit...rather than posting another frame...maybe deep down i wasn`t totally convinced.....bad capping...making plays for the wrong reasons.....maybe to much football AND boxing......first time i can remeber losing 2 in a row....i`m sure it`s happened...

i `ll be around to give an opinion or two,but it`s time to gather myself and get back to what i used to do.....take a sabbatical from suggesting plays...refresh myself....

again,sincere apologies...i don`t mind losing....i just seriously hate losing someone else`s money....

g.l. tonight,guys....
 

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hope ya keep giving us info and your capping views. i for one appreciate your opinion immensely. so ya lost two in a row. big deal. don't let it get ya down. i am sure you have won two in a row more times than you can remember. you don't force anyone to bet on anything. everyone is responsible for what they do themselves. you just give us the results of your hard work and capping abilities, which are very high in my opinion. i agree ya shouldn't chase your money but i don't think you would do that. if you have a solid opinion or info that you feel would determine an outcome of a fight and feel good about it then keep jabbing. lol again i know most all of us appreciate you and your thoughts and hope you keep on keeping on. don't know about football or other wagering but i am sure you are up in predicting the sweet science. thanks for all ya do and good luck tonight. yak :yup
 
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