Don't see why Lazcano can't shine here. Live dogs are the nectar of sports betting. At +260, he is worth a look-see. I'm going to run with him in this fight.
Boxing; Vivian Harris-Lazcano;2/10/2007-Las Vegas
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I can see playing Lazcano for sure. Harris is fragile mentally, has a fragile chin and his stamina isn't top notch either. HOWEVER, Lazcano looked horrible in his last fight against Garnica. I thought Garnica won the fight and got shafted. Regardless, Lazcano isn't a bad play at the odds IMO.
Thanks for the support! True, the price makes it an attractive wager. He CAN win, not saying he will, but ain't no such thing as a "lock".
I think the 10 oz gloves will help Lazcano
My initial lean was Harris inside distance +175 due to Lazcano's last performance after taking a severe beating from Castillo a few years ago. I feel Lazcano left a lot in the ring that night, and it showed against a mediocre Garnica.
However...I later realized that they'll be wearing 10 oz gloves, which will take some of the sting off Harris' straight right hands.
If Lazcano's not hurt by the punches he takes trying to get inside, he'll be much more effective when he gets there, and he'll be there all night long.
No play for me...hope you hit it frank
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My initial lean was Harris inside distance +175 due to Lazcano's last performance after taking a severe beating from Castillo a few years ago. I feel Lazcano left a lot in the ring that night, and it showed against a mediocre Garnica.
However...I later realized that they'll be wearing 10 oz gloves, which will take some of the sting off Harris' straight right hands.
If Lazcano's not hurt by the punches he takes trying to get inside, he'll be much more effective when he gets there, and he'll be there all night long.
No play for me...hope you hit it frank
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never was a big lazcano fan......... and harris is wildly inconsistent...but,i`ll be surprised if vivian doesn`t win here....even though i`m not laying those odds....
g.l.,though franks......i`ll be rootin` for you...
g.l.,though franks......i`ll be rootin` for you...
Betting Mosley was like stealing candy from a baby. I hope you guys now figured out how overrated Hatton is now who really lost to this guy. This fight wasn't even close. I wonder if Mosley wants to get held all night in a fight with Hatton. He would just ruin him. A 34 year old past his prime guy against this alleged (only at madjacks)great fighter.
Hatton is a great fighter at 140...not 147
Notice I said fighter...not boxer
Anyone who's constantly ranked in the top 5 of any weight class is a great fighter...imo. If you don't have Hatton in your top 5 at 140 you're an idiot. Maybe you're a little more strict when using the word great, either way, I really don't care
90% of the boxing world thought Hatton's win over Kostya Tzsyu was completely legit and a great performance. We are part of the minority that thinks Hatton's constant holding tainted that victory. Either way he kicked Tzsyu's ass for most of the 11 rounds and made him quit on his stool. Since Kostya was obviously an excellent fighter at 140, you have to give Hatton some credit for beating him and stopping him
Anyway, Hatton is still a great fighter at 140...deal with it and move on
Notice I said fighter...not boxer
Anyone who's constantly ranked in the top 5 of any weight class is a great fighter...imo. If you don't have Hatton in your top 5 at 140 you're an idiot. Maybe you're a little more strict when using the word great, either way, I really don't care
90% of the boxing world thought Hatton's win over Kostya Tzsyu was completely legit and a great performance. We are part of the minority that thinks Hatton's constant holding tainted that victory. Either way he kicked Tzsyu's ass for most of the 11 rounds and made him quit on his stool. Since Kostya was obviously an excellent fighter at 140, you have to give Hatton some credit for beating him and stopping him
Anyway, Hatton is still a great fighter at 140...deal with it and move on
He is not a great fighter either and this will be exposed eventually. Then will we see who the real idiot is.
Beating and stopping KostyaTzsyu makes Hatton a great fighter...period. He's already achieved that status, it doesn't matter what happens next
With this type of logic this would mean Buster Douglas, Leon Spinks, and that stiff who knocked out Lennox Lewis (Rahman)were all great fighters. :shrug:
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Spinks lost the rematch by lopsided UD
Rahman lost the rematch by 4th round KO after being dominated for 3 rounds...and Rahman was way behind on the scorecards when he stopped Lewis with a haymaker in the 1st fight
And we all know why Tyson lost to Buster Douglas...it was the beginning of the end
Tzsyu wanted no part of a rematch with Hatton, and Hatton has dominated every other fighter he's been in with
(besides when he stepped up to 147 which he admits was a mistake).
Spinks, Rahman, and Douglas have all lost multiple fights to mediocre opponents, Hatton has dominated every B class fighter he's fought.
Sorry, but you're way off here
Rahman lost the rematch by 4th round KO after being dominated for 3 rounds...and Rahman was way behind on the scorecards when he stopped Lewis with a haymaker in the 1st fight
And we all know why Tyson lost to Buster Douglas...it was the beginning of the end
Tzsyu wanted no part of a rematch with Hatton, and Hatton has dominated every other fighter he's been in with
(besides when he stepped up to 147 which he admits was a mistake).
Spinks, Rahman, and Douglas have all lost multiple fights to mediocre opponents, Hatton has dominated every B class fighter he's fought.
Sorry, but you're way off here
okay his claim to fame was beating a 35 year old fighter who was a little overrated himself as his claim to fame was winning a flash knockout of Zab Judah among other victories. Sometimes just because Jim Lampley who is as blind as they come say's someone is a great fighter doesn't necessarily mean the guy is great. I never heard Zue running from a rematch but if he did at 37 i guess he should. Time will tell who is right. Great fighter no way in hell. Good fighter ill give you that. Maybe your right my idea of a great fighter is someone like Hopkins. Maybe my bar is set higher. By the way if you want to see how blind Lampley is in the third round of the Mosley fight with around 49 seconds left Mosley hit his opponent with probably his best punch of the night and Lampley somehow someway said it was the opponent that got the great punch in. Finally i had enough of his assine comments and rewound the fight to see if in fact it is me that is blind. Low and behold it was Sugar who delivered the punch. What he is watching i have no idea.
I noticed that also, at first I thought he just said the wrong name on accident (it happens all the time) but he never corrected himself so you could be right
You're gonna love this...Collazo said he injured his left hand during training and re-injured it when he landed the big straight left hand in the 2nd or 3rd
Seriously, I think we just have different definitions for great. I don't think Hatton's an elite fighter or even a top 20 p4p'er. But he's a very good fighter at 140, and he'll continue to be until he retires. Only the top 2 or 3 guys at 140 have a shot at beating Hatton, and even they might not be successful, that makes him a very good or great fighter...imo
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From fightnews...
Collazo suffered broken hand!
Former welterweight champion Luis Collazo made a brief appearance at the post-fight press conference Saturday night where he revealed a hand injury that occurred after he landed a succession of straight lefts in the second and third rounds before losing a unanimous decision to "Sugar" Shane Mosley at Mandalay Bay Events Center in Las Vegas. A post-fight x-ray recommended by the Nevada State Athletic Commission revealed a fracture to Collazo's left hand. He also received seven stitches on his left eyelid caused by an accidental head butt in the fourth round
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Everyone's talking about how good Mosley looked while dominating this fight...now we know why. Collazo looked sharp and was nailing Shane with big straight left hands in the first 2 rounds, then all the sudden he quit throwing the left and Shane took over the fight. It all makes sence now...
Collazo suffered broken hand!
Former welterweight champion Luis Collazo made a brief appearance at the post-fight press conference Saturday night where he revealed a hand injury that occurred after he landed a succession of straight lefts in the second and third rounds before losing a unanimous decision to "Sugar" Shane Mosley at Mandalay Bay Events Center in Las Vegas. A post-fight x-ray recommended by the Nevada State Athletic Commission revealed a fracture to Collazo's left hand. He also received seven stitches on his left eyelid caused by an accidental head butt in the fourth round
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Everyone's talking about how good Mosley looked while dominating this fight...now we know why. Collazo looked sharp and was nailing Shane with big straight left hands in the first 2 rounds, then all the sudden he quit throwing the left and Shane took over the fight. It all makes sence now...
Mosley is chirping about fighting Cotto/Margarito/Cintron. He is in tough with any one of these. I think they all beat him. If he fights Margarito, I send it in. Now he is super confident.
From fightnews...
Collazo will undergo surgery!
By Jason "J-Gon" Gonzalez
Luis Collazo will undergo hand surgery on February 22nd at New York Downtown Hospital. Collazo tore three ligaments and fractured his thumb on his left hand in a decision loss to "Sugar" Shane Mosely. Collazo suffered the injury in the second round but courageously battled on to finish the fight.
Collazo will undergo surgery!
By Jason "J-Gon" Gonzalez
Luis Collazo will undergo hand surgery on February 22nd at New York Downtown Hospital. Collazo tore three ligaments and fractured his thumb on his left hand in a decision loss to "Sugar" Shane Mosely. Collazo suffered the injury in the second round but courageously battled on to finish the fight.
i actually don't think shane looked that good. I thought his body work was pretty good but to me he is eventually gonna get hurt. Vargas was another guy i thought was overatted and it looks like Shane was getting a lot of stock with those wins.
Its a shame what happen to this kid. Its one of the first boxing injuries i believe. I think a lot of them are bogus. Also the butt was very legit. I thought that cut was in a terrible place but somehow it wasn't that big of a factor. Starting to think that goo they put on is super glue.
Its a shame what happen to this kid. Its one of the first boxing injuries i believe. I think a lot of them are bogus. Also the butt was very legit. I thought that cut was in a terrible place but somehow it wasn't that big of a factor. Starting to think that goo they put on is super glue.
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