Bryce Young #1 pick overall?

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In all the NFL Drafts I've seen over the years, I've never seen as much hype for a mini sized QB going #1 overall to the Panthers in my life. Granted Young did well in the SEC with Alabama, but this is the NFL my peeps! He's not very tall and he's had some minor injuries while playing in college. How as Tua done? When Tua's healthy, he has decent numbers, but he's not a pro bowl caliber QB and he's slightly bigger and stronger than Young is. How about Russell Wilson? He's not tall either and played for NC State and Wisky in college and he was very mobile which fit the Seattle Seahawks scheme of things and he's quickly faded statistically each year since his last Super Bowl. Other QBs under 6'0 tall? Arizona's Murray also not a pro bowl caliber QB and he's had injury ailments as well. Do these guys sell tickets? Not really! The play of the team and hype will help sell tickets. So why take Young #1?

Charlotte is craving a chance to get back in to the Superbowl. They did it twice with a QB no one wanted in Jake Delhomme and the enigma who rose and fell quickly from grace, Cam Fig Newton who I have all the respect in the world for, but he became very predictable and after the beatings he took in the NFL on sacks and struggles he's had, I just don't see Bryce Young doing anything for the Panthers except maybe sell NFL Uniforms. He's got an accurate arm and has good feel for when to throw the ball and his turnover rate was low in college. Again, this is the NFL! Players are faster, bigger, stronger and have better overall instincts and they have no passion for hitting a mini sized QB lightly at all, it's all or nothing folks!!

If I were Carolina, I'd trade the pick away and pick up a couple extra picks and maybe an NFL established player for the overall #1 pick.

There are a few QBs coming out this year and that will be excellent QBs but none that I feel that would carry a team like an Aaron Rodgers who sat a bit before he was ready to take over for Brett Favre, Jalen Hurts was rushed into the NFL and was a 2nd round pick, so now all the NFL teams are looking for a duplicate version of Jalen Hurts. Patrick Mahomes is a solid 6'1 plus and 225 pounds, he can elude rushers and can run down field, he's instinctive and was a very good baseball player in HS, he's just a better football players. Having been a scout for the NFL in the past and MLB scout since '83, I know for fact, what it takes to play in the NFL and at the QB position it takes more than just size and cognitive thinking, he takes brawn, durability and instincts to go along with making good decisions, Bryce Young had a play caller each of his years in college and he'll have one in the NFL, he'll also be facing some lines who are taller and faster than any he's ever seen as well as LBs who can run down even the fastest of running backs. And I just can't see Bryce Young healthy and play to the ability that the Panthers are hoping if they in fact pick him and keep him in the NFL.

Another pick I'd take later than where he's forecasted is Anthony Richardson, he's a tremendous athlete, but reminds me somewhat of a QB bust in the NFL named JaMarcus Russell who the Raiders felt was going to be a standout Pro Bowl NFL QB for years. Boy did that flop real quick. Richardson while athletic, can do many other things besides QB, he's got hands to be a good receiver and speed to make him formidable there as well. His accuracy is not good and he's a flipper, meaning, he does not get on top of his throws to throw down hill or deep with trajectory, he guides the ball and that's easy for NFL DBs to pick off in the NFL. He'd be a great pick on day 2 or day 3, but not day 1 for me, unless a team needs QB depth and will wait 2-3 years for him to develop like Aaron Rodgers did. He's not in the same caliber to Jalen Hurts, so throw out that comparison and AR definitely is a better athlete than Cam Newton so don't compare him there either. He reminds me more of Doug Williams when he came out of Grambling except AR is faster and more athletic, Doug had more arm strenght on the line, AR can throw the ball from goal line to goal line strength wise, but not on a line wise.

What are y'all's thoughts on Young going #1 and playing in the NFL? Anthony Richardson?

The QB I really like and would take in the 1st round but wouldn't want to force him a bit is Will Levis of Kentucky, he's big, durable and got a good arm, he reminds me more of Jon Elway that any QB I've seen in many years. At 6'4 230, he's got a big arm, can run and probably can withstand the hits NFL linemen will take on him and he's improved each year he played, which for me is also intriguing when scouting talent. Upside, not what they did in the past but how are they doing each year, did they improve, will they improve and physically can they take a hit and can they make the throw and can they make good decisions?

CJ Stroud? Forgetaboutit!! He's better than current QB for the Bears and he'll be a better NFL QB to, second to none. Arm, improved each year and has the size and arm strength that will only get better in the NFL. Fields is good, Stroud for me is much better!

Later!!
 
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only time will tell many qb's that were good were forced to play for worst teams in nfl like Vinny testerverdae had to play for worst nfl team way back the bucs or other qb's stuck to play for the jets or the cardinals now the bears too.
 

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In all the NFL Drafts I've seen over the years, I've never seen as much hype for a mini sized QB going #1 overall to the Panthers in my life. Granted Young did well in the SEC with Alabama, but this is the NFL my peeps! He's not very tall and he's had some minor injuries while playing in college. How as Tua done? When Tua's healthy, he has decent numbers, but he's not a pro bowl caliber QB and he's slightly bigger and stronger than Young is. How about Russell Wilson? He's not tall either and played for NC State and Wisky in college and he was very mobile which fit the Seattle Seahawks scheme of things and he's quickly faded statistically each year since his last Super Bowl. Other QBs under 6'0 tall? Arizona's Murray also not a pro bowl caliber QB and he's had injury ailments as well. Do these guys sell tickets? Not really! The play of the team and hype will help sell tickets. So why take Young #1?

Charlotte is craving a chance to get back in to the Superbowl. They did it twice with a QB no one wanted in Jake Delhomme and the enigma who rose and fell quickly from grace, Cam Fig Newton who I have all the respect in the world for, but he became very predictable and after the beatings he took in the NFL on sacks and struggles he's had, I just don't see Bryce Young doing anything for the Panthers except maybe sell NFL Uniforms. He's got an accurate arm and has good feel for when to throw the ball and his turnover rate was low in college. Again, this is the NFL! Players are faster, bigger, stronger and have better overall instincts and they have no passion for hitting a mini sized QB lightly at all, it's all or nothing folks!!

If I were Carolina, I'd trade the pick away and pick up a couple extra picks and maybe an NFL established player for the overall #1 pick.

There are a few QBs coming out this year and that will be excellent QBs but none that I feel that would carry a team like an Aaron Rodgers who sat a bit before he was ready to take over for Brett Favre, Jalen Hurts was rushed into the NFL and was a 2nd round pick, so now all the NFL teams are looking for a duplicate version of Jalen Hurts. Patrick Mahomes is a solid 6'1 plus and 225 pounds, he can elude rushers and can run down field, he's instinctive and was a very good baseball player in HS, he's just a better football players. Having been a scout for the NFL in the past and MLB scout since '83, I know for fact, what it takes to play in the NFL and at the QB position it takes more than just size and cognitive thinking, he takes brawn, durability and instincts to go along with making good decisions, Bryce Young had a play caller each of his years in college and he'll have one in the NFL, he'll also be facing some lines who are taller and faster than any he's ever seen as well as LBs who can run down even the fastest of running backs. And I just can't see Bryce Young healthy and play to the ability that the Panthers are hoping if they in fact pick him and keep him in the NFL.

Another pick I'd take later than where he's forecasted is Anthony Richardson, he's a tremendous athlete, but reminds me somewhat of a QB bust in the NFL named JaMarcus Russell who the Raiders felt was going to be a standout Pro Bowl NFL QB for years. Boy did that flop real quick. Richardson while athletic, can do many other things besides QB, he's got hands to be a good receiver and speed to make him formidable there as well. His accuracy is not good and he's a flipper, meaning, he does not get on top of his throws to throw down hill or deep with trajectory, he guides the ball and that's easy for NFL DBs to pick off in the NFL. He'd be a great pick on day 2 or day 3, but not day 1 for me, unless a team needs QB depth and will wait 2-3 years for him to develop like Aaron Rodgers did. He's not in the same caliber to Jalen Hurts, so throw out that comparison and AR definitely is a better athlete than Cam Newton so don't compare him there either. He reminds me more of Doug Williams when he came out of Grambling except AR is faster and more athletic, Doug had more arm strenght on the line, AR can throw the ball from goal line to goal line strength wise, but not on a line wise.

What are y'all's thoughts on Young going #1 and playing in the NFL? Anthony Richardson?

The QB I really like and would take in the 1st round but wouldn't want to force him a bit is Will Levis of Kentucky, he's big, durable and got a good arm, he reminds me more of Jon Elway that any QB I've seen in many years. At 6'4 230, he's got a big arm, can run and probably can withstand the hits NFL linemen will take on him and he's improved each year he played, which for me is also intriguing when scouting talent. Upside, not what they did in the past but how are they doing each year, did they improve, will they improve and physically can they take a hit and can they make the throw and can they make good decisions?

CJ Stroud? Forgetaboutit!! He's better than current QB for the Bears and he'll be a better NFL QB to, second to none. Arm, improved each year and has the size and arm strength that will only get better in the NFL. Fields is good, Stroud for me is much better!

Later!!

Cj stroud. If he is as dumb as a rock. It don't bode well. Example is Mike vick.
vick could not even learn the whole playbook. If a play that was sent in was not familiar to him, he would change to a running pass option everytime. He made plays and the Falcons suffered.
this made it very tough to coach Vick.
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That and blank pushed him in the wheelchair with his foot issue. Blank made vick untouchable with his dumb ass
 
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Young is fragile in NFL.

look at how the lineman ragdoll Tua. Easy to get him out of game on concussion protocol

No way Young lasts a full season ...... ever ever
 
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Cj stroud. If he is as dumb as a rock. It don't bode well. Example is Mike vick.
vick could not even learn the whole playbook.
this made it very tough to coach.
That and blank pushed him in the wheelchair with his foot issue. Blank made vick untouchable with his dumb ass

Agreed! Great athlete, little mental awareness, but tough at taking poundings cuz he could run LOL!!
 

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Another guy that has been linked to Falcons and I hope they do NOT draft Jahmyr Gibbs out of Alabama.

Dude lost several games for Rolltide through dropped passes and mistakes. Dont get another too small halfback like Gibbs.
Falcons have been there and it never has worked out.
 

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With Shane Steichen taking over as head coach, there isn’t a better time than now for the Colts to find a long-term answer at the QB position. Armed with the No. 4 overall pick in the 2023 NFL Draft, they may not have to wait long to get their guy.

There are plenty of rumors swirling that the Colts could have set their sights on Will Levis out of Kentucky. There is a chance he is available at No. 4, but a lot of that depends on what the Arizona Cardinals do with the third-overall pick.

Trading that pick to another quarterback-needy team would be the worst-case scenario for the Colts; they would presumably be stuck with whoever is left from the top-four quarterback prospects. If the board doesn’t fall in their favor, Indianapolis could pivot to making a trade.

One player who could be an option for the Colts is Mac Jones of the New England Patriots. The 2021 first-rounder has been reportedly shopped by New England this offseason as the relationship between him and head coach/general manager Bill Belichick is a rocky one.

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What could a trade between the Colts and Patriots look like? Pinpointing what Jones’ value is currently isn’t easy as he took a step back in production in Year 2 compared to his rookie season. But, Indianapolis could offer the No. 35, No. 79 and No. 163 overall pick in the 2023 NFL Draft in exchange for Jones and the No. 46 pick.

New England recoups some solid trade value, jumping up in the second round 11 spots along with snagging a third- and fifth-rounder. This trade would likely lead the Patriots to start Bailey Zappe, or they could look for a veteran in free agency to be the starter, such as Teddy Bridgewater.

For the Colts, they get a former first-round pick who still has three seasons of team control on his rookie contract. Jones would likely benefit from a change of scenery after a rough 2022. Going from Matt Patricia and Joe Judge as his offensive coaches to a Steichen-led staff would do wonders for him.

After seeing what Steichen did working with Justin Herbert and Jalen Hurts, Jones would have to be excited about this new start. Running back Jonathan Taylor and wide receivers Michael Pittman Jr. and Alec Pierce are a solid trio of skill-position players for Jones to grow and develop with.
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Bellichek wants Jones gone because he cant get along with Ego Jones,

I got to make this trade immediately if NE will go for it.

We will see Jones in a Superbowl in a few years if he can get out of NE town.
 

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another guy I am not high on is Will Anderson - Alabama

He is a super athlete but tailed off later in the year from being dominant.

Reminds me of Clowny from South Carolina - head case


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I feel this draft is deep in talent in the first 100 picks, no one stands out to me more than Levis, Robinson and Kincaid from Utah, I like the O Line and D Line suspects too, my favorite is Paris Johnson from Ohio State, he's got a long reach and wide load with quick feet to keep edge rushers away from the QB.

I just hope the Eagles picking at 10 and 30, 62 and 94, pick the needs they need and as always best athlete available, you can always make trades. O Line needs help and Cox needs a rush buddy!!
 

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Another guy that has been linked to Falcons and I hope they do NOT draft Jahmyr Gibbs out of Alabama.

Dude lost several games for Rolltide through dropped passes and mistakes. Dont get another too small halfback like Gibbs.
Falcons have been there and it never has worked out.

Gibbs that early in the draft is an eye opener
 

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Mel Kiper Jrs comment on Falcons selection :

Of Atlanta's choice to draft Bijan Robinson:

This is really high for a running back, when there is so much evidence teams can find value on Days 2 and 3 of the draft and get just as much production.
 

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"We’ve heard it more bluntly and strongly," Florio continued. "Members of the Georgia coaching staff are not Jalen Carter fans, and they weren’t bashful about saying so."

ESPN's Mel Kiper Jr. previously ranked Carter his top prospect in this draft class despite the numerous red flags hovering over the star's status ahead of Thursday night. Carter pleaded no contest to misdemeanor charges of reckless driving and racing in March regarding his alleged role in a fatal January car crash and was accused of being out of shape at Georgia's pro day. Analysts also mentioned questions about Carter's "effort level in practice" and his in-game "motor."

One report from early April said that "at least a couple" of teams had removed Carter from their draft boards at that time, but it was nevertheless believed as late as Thursday morning that Carter would be a top-10 pick.

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"We’ve heard it more bluntly and strongly," Florio continued. "Members of the Georgia coaching staff are not Jalen Carter fans, and they weren’t bashful about saying so."

ESPN's Mel Kiper Jr. previously ranked Carter his top prospect in this draft class despite the numerous red flags hovering over the star's status ahead of Thursday night. Carter pleaded no contest to misdemeanor charges of reckless driving and racing in March regarding his alleged role in a fatal January car crash and was accused of being out of shape at Georgia's pro day. Analysts also mentioned questions about Carter's "effort level in practice" and his in-game "motor."

One report from early April said that "at least a couple" of teams had removed Carter from their draft boards at that time, but it was nevertheless believed as late as Thursday morning that Carter would be a top-10 pick.

:scared:scared

I'll still take Jalen Carter and let him prove me wrong as Tunstall is still in the NFL even with his sucking in crack and weed on social media share.
 

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Carolina should trade the #1 overall pick for other picks and an established player?

Great idea....the bears beat you to it and did this months ago and traded the #1 overall pick to.....Carolina.
 

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Carolina should trade the #1 overall pick for other picks and an established player?

Great idea....the bears beat you to it and did this months ago and traded the #1 overall pick to.....Carolina.

I know the Bears traded the #1 pick to Carolina, I meant and I didn't clearly state what I meant, is that Carolina should have packaged the #1 overall pick for 2 first rounders, and an established player, they could have done that with Indy or Houston, but the stars didn't align I reckon, they only aligned for Houston in taking #2 and #3 overall and Indy getting Richardson.

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AR is a less-accurate version of Lamar Jackson. Let that sink in.

QB play is getting worse and worse in the NFL. I think there's 2 big reasons. 1) Very few colleges run pro-style offenses now, so these QBs have no experience with reading the kinds of defenses they'll see in the NFL. And 2) because these kids get paid such a ridiculous amount of money before they play a single down in the NFL, there is tremendous pressure for them to start right away. Very rarely can a QB enter the league and have immediate success. It's ironic that by forcing them to play early because they make so much money they often turn into huge busts.

Will Levis was the best prospect this year. As someone noted, he improved each year (which is rare these days) and ran a pro-style offense at UK. Unless he's a complete dick with zero leadership skills (Ryan Leaf), the Titans got a solid qb if they're smart enough to let him sit behind Tannehill at least a year so he can learn. Although we all know what's going to happen... after Tannehill throws 3 INTs in week one (or gets hurt again), Levis is going to get thrown to the wolves.
 
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One caveat to point #2 above... a lot of the athletic qbs seem to have early success, but once the DCs figure out they can't read a defense or make an accurate throw, they come back down to earth.
 
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Hey Jake, I went to the Indiana Sports Corp luncheon on Tuesday. Chris Ballard was the speaker. He told a story about Anthony Richardson, and the NFL’s rookie orientation program. Troy Vincent of the NFL called Ballard after the draft to tell him what an impact Anthony Richardson had left on him at the orientation program.”

“Specifically, at the dinner attended by all potential draftees, the room was left a mess. Everyone was leaving and Troy Vincent saw one person who stayed behind and was bussing tables before the staff came back in the room. Vincent walked up and approached him and said, ‘You don’t need to do this.’ To which Anthony Richardson responded, ‘We left this room in an unacceptable condition, and it’s not right for us to expect the staff to clean it all up.”

“Vincent said that (he told Richardson) he was free to go, to which Richardson responded, ‘No it’s alright, I’d like to stay and help,’ and he did, until the room was cleaned up entirely. And he was the last person working along with workers on the shift.”​

Obviously, it gives a small, but pretty telling glimpse of who Richardson is as a person off-the-field—and why the Colts were so impressed with his character throughout the pre-draft evaluation process (*and may have very well taken him #1 overall, had Indianapolis actually had such a luxury).

There’s a lot of ‘good guys’ in the league who don’t end up having notable or lengthy NFL careers. However, given Richardson’s obvious physical talent, he really has the chance to be special in time—given his natural ability, makeup, and highly regarded work ethic.

There’s a clear reason the Colts are hopeful he can eventually become their next face of the franchise and one of the top leaders in their locker room—at the league’s most important position, which requires it. His clean up may have been a small thing, but it really wasn’t.
 
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