Couple of early plays - Billy Andrade is in good form at present and has a good record at Westchester with a win in 91 and was 3rd last year - 80/1 at Stan James seems big. The other is a risky proposition - the name of Tim Clark crops up on a fairly regular basis - he is actually an alternate at present but if he does get a start he will not big as big as the 200/1 that Centrebet quote!
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Brad Faxon 50/1 SportingBet & Heathorns (Bet365 now 40)
Has won a PGA tournament in each of the last 3 years. Again having a good season with 2nd places in the Nissan and Honda and 3rd in the World Matchplay. More recently finished 12th in the US Masters and 13th last time out in the Memorial. This is an event in which he shows good consistency with 6-12-11-6-3 places in his last seven visits.
Has won a PGA tournament in each of the last 3 years. Again having a good season with 2nd places in the Nissan and Honda and 3rd in the World Matchplay. More recently finished 12th in the US Masters and 13th last time out in the Memorial. This is an event in which he shows good consistency with 6-12-11-6-3 places in his last seven visits.
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It was beaten... just topped it up with a little 66.0 at betfair.
Clive,
It's a good thing us agreeing... think positive! At the end we'll be doing this :toast:
Clive,
It's a good thing us agreeing... think positive! At the end we'll be doing this :toast:
Will venture out on one early play
Goosen -110 over Oly @ 365 (ties lose)
Rare that I bite at ties lose in a - odds situation but watched Oly with great interest last week andhis driver was once again all over the place missing right and left.Not what you want on this track.
Note.Proof of Tigers distain for par 70 & 71 tracks in shown by his avoidance here,totally out of his venue of playing similiar track as prep this close to Open.
Can't blame him as his record here is
cut-43rd-16th in 3 attempts.
New York has had plenty rain with more expected Wed & Thur. Rough should be up!
Goosen -110 over Oly @ 365 (ties lose)
Rare that I bite at ties lose in a - odds situation but watched Oly with great interest last week andhis driver was once again all over the place missing right and left.Not what you want on this track.
Note.Proof of Tigers distain for par 70 & 71 tracks in shown by his avoidance here,totally out of his venue of playing similiar track as prep this close to Open.
Can't blame him as his record here is
cut-43rd-16th in 3 attempts.
New York has had plenty rain with more expected Wed & Thur. Rough should be up!
Outright plays (1 unit):
Vijay Singh to win 14/1 e.w. @ Sportingbet, Heathorns or UKBetting
Twice a winner of this event in 1993 and 1995, his only finish outside the top-25 at Westchester was in 1994 when he withdrew injured. Has been in good form since winning the Houston Open and finished 4th last time out in the Memorial. Should go very close and is preferred over Els who has similar course and current form, but is at shorter odds.
David Toms to win 20/1 e.w. @ Bet365, Sporting Odds, Heathorns or Paddy Power
It is hard to remember that Toms first started playing on the PGA Tour in 1989. He played this event in 1993, 1994 and 1996 - he had lost in Tour card for the 1995 season - and missed the cut on all three occasions. But Toms had secured just six top-10 finishes from 131 PGA Tour starts up to 1996, it was not too surprising he missed the cuts in those. It is a far cry from the player who has finished in the top-10 in more than half of his starts since the beginning of last year. He is the form player in the field with finishes of 9th, 4th and 2nd in his last three events and he will trying particularly hard this week to prove to himself that he can master this course.
Stewart Cink to win 50/1 e.w. @ Bet365, Sporting Odds, Sportingbet, Victor Chandler or Heathorns
Looked to have a great chance to win the Memorial Tournament a couple of weeks ago. He had been in the top-3 all week, but started poorly in the final round and never recovered. Hopefully, he can bring that 54-hole form with him to a course on which he has played well in the past. He finished 6th in 1997 and 3rd last year, which was particularly impressive as it was the week after he had blown his chance to win the US Open.
Vijay Singh to win 14/1 e.w. @ Sportingbet, Heathorns or UKBetting
Twice a winner of this event in 1993 and 1995, his only finish outside the top-25 at Westchester was in 1994 when he withdrew injured. Has been in good form since winning the Houston Open and finished 4th last time out in the Memorial. Should go very close and is preferred over Els who has similar course and current form, but is at shorter odds.
David Toms to win 20/1 e.w. @ Bet365, Sporting Odds, Heathorns or Paddy Power
It is hard to remember that Toms first started playing on the PGA Tour in 1989. He played this event in 1993, 1994 and 1996 - he had lost in Tour card for the 1995 season - and missed the cut on all three occasions. But Toms had secured just six top-10 finishes from 131 PGA Tour starts up to 1996, it was not too surprising he missed the cuts in those. It is a far cry from the player who has finished in the top-10 in more than half of his starts since the beginning of last year. He is the form player in the field with finishes of 9th, 4th and 2nd in his last three events and he will trying particularly hard this week to prove to himself that he can master this course.
Stewart Cink to win 50/1 e.w. @ Bet365, Sporting Odds, Sportingbet, Victor Chandler or Heathorns
Looked to have a great chance to win the Memorial Tournament a couple of weeks ago. He had been in the top-3 all week, but started poorly in the final round and never recovered. Hopefully, he can bring that 54-hole form with him to a course on which he has played well in the past. He finished 6th in 1997 and 3rd last year, which was particularly impressive as it was the week after he had blown his chance to win the US Open.
2nd Selection: Michael Campbell 66/1 Totalbet
Has the talent to win anything... but seems to suffer from a lack of concentration at times. Worth chancing after a string of good finishes this season, 2nd New Zealand Open, 5th Heineken, 2nd Bay Hill, 3rd B & H and 4th Volvo PGA. Made the cut here last year
Has the talent to win anything... but seems to suffer from a lack of concentration at times. Worth chancing after a string of good finishes this season, 2nd New Zealand Open, 5th Heineken, 2nd Bay Hill, 3rd B & H and 4th Volvo PGA. Made the cut here last year
First choice is Cink at 50/1. He excels on these US Open-like courses. Stewart was 3rd last year and is showing some form. 9th in his last event.
Andrade 80/1. He was T3 with Cink last year. In his last two events he's finished 9th and 11th.
Faxon 50/1. Another player with solid recent form and a good record in this event. He was 6th last year.
Andrade 80/1. He was T3 with Cink last year. In his last two events he's finished 9th and 11th.
Faxon 50/1. Another player with solid recent form and a good record in this event. He was 6th last year.
adding 72 holes just out @ Cascade
Allenby -110 vs Zinger
Beckman -110 vs Kelly
Campbell +105 vs Molder (don't think that will last long)
Allenby -110 vs Zinger
Beckman -110 vs Kelly
Campbell +105 vs Molder (don't think that will last long)
The Bush: got a few just as lines were just dropped I will transfer when thread is started.
outrights to place @ SIA 1 unit each.
Redman 10/1
Robbins 12.5/1
JD Coe 16.5/1
Koch 10/1
outrights to place @ SIA 1 unit each.
Redman 10/1
Robbins 12.5/1
JD Coe 16.5/1
Koch 10/1
adding 72 holes @$plays
Singh +100 over Els
Parny +140 over Garcia
Parny is a bit unpredictible but all I could find to oppose Garcia and at generous odds.
For one who goals was to lead both tours money list the last 3 (cut-cut-73) can't be encouraging.The boy needs to get a grip on life! Don't think he can cope with downturn.
Singh +100 over Els
Parny +140 over Garcia
Parny is a bit unpredictible but all I could find to oppose Garcia and at generous odds.
For one who goals was to lead both tours money list the last 3 (cut-cut-73) can't be encouraging.The boy needs to get a grip on life! Don't think he can cope with downturn.
coming in late, but not much difference from what already said
1 ew Singh 18/1 Eurobet
0.5 ew on following
Cink 50/1 Chandler
Faxon 50/1 Tote
Andrade 80/1 Bet365
1 ew Singh 18/1 Eurobet
0.5 ew on following
Cink 50/1 Chandler
Faxon 50/1 Tote
Andrade 80/1 Bet365
Outrights 1/2 unit to place
Langer 25/1
Waldorf 12.5/1
Speculating on Langer as he has not been firing on all clyliders of late.
Waldorf has won here in 1999 and current form excellent with 2 top 10's and 4 top 20's in last 5.
Will change outright strategy remainder of year with 1/2 unit place bets before start and 1 unit place bet in running as they have hit at a (5 in running vs 1 prior to start) clip past 11 weeks
Langer 25/1
Waldorf 12.5/1
Speculating on Langer as he has not been firing on all clyliders of late.
Waldorf has won here in 1999 and current form excellent with 2 top 10's and 4 top 20's in last 5.
Will change outright strategy remainder of year with 1/2 unit place bets before start and 1 unit place bet in running as they have hit at a (5 in running vs 1 prior to start) clip past 11 weeks
My outrights for this week:
Phil Mickelson each way 12-1
Jim Furyk each way 30-1
Stewart Cink each way 50-1
Phil Mickelson each way 12-1
Jim Furyk each way 30-1
Stewart Cink each way 50-1
My matchups for this week:
Furyk -125 vs Olazabal @ Canbet
Cink -105 vs Cabrera @ Centrebet
Appleby +120 vs Beckman @ Carib
Furyk -125 vs Olazabal @ Canbet
Cink -105 vs Cabrera @ Centrebet
Appleby +120 vs Beckman @ Carib
These linesmaker are paying much more attention than past years.
Furyk/Oly match as example Furyk inner ear just back to normal and Oly driver goes bad for one week and they have allready adjusted odds this week.????Times are getting tough
Furyk/Oly match as example Furyk inner ear just back to normal and Oly driver goes bad for one week and they have allready adjusted odds this week.????Times are getting tough
ALL TOURS:
Matchups
YTD: 35-40 (-10.68*)
Groups and 3 Balls
YTD: 3-8 (-2.84*)
Outrights
YTD: 7-42 (+1.44*)
An accurate enough tally for going forward. Matchups remain a big disappointment since The Masters. I've also hit four times on my chump
change parlays over the last five weeks to nearly break even on about 40 such plays, and enjoyed some nervous moments last week on a Justin Rose with Stuart Appleby parlay.
OUTRIGHTS
I avoided making any cuts I might regret, so I ended up with five outright plays that probably rate from solid to suspect.
David Toms(20/1 for 0.20* e.w. @ Bet365)
I'll take those odds when I have to rate him as very likely to be playing well on the weekend.
Billy Andrade(50/1 for 0.30* e.w. @ Bet365 with 60/1 To Win for $2 @ 5dimes)
Brings regional ties with his current form, his course form, and my intuitive expectations regarding his course compatibility.
Stewart Cink(50/1 for 0.30* e.w. @ Bet365)
His swing in his last two events was looking as confident (and as elegant) as ever, and he could well be ready to find the scoring switch for a nice run.
Phil Tataurangi(80/1 for 0.30* e.w. @ Bet365 with 100/1 To Win for $2 @ 5dimes)
I look for him to have an answer to an uncharacteristic week of wild driving, in which case I still believe Phil may be ready to pop.
Skip Kendall(100/1 for 0.20* e.w. @ Bet365)
His flashes of good form are rarely noteworthy over the course of four days. He has a spotty record at this venue and the field is packed with
quality. Nevertheless, I've been looking to back him in a spot that combines good signs coming in and a fair potential for the weekend.
Ironic is the word for how a missed cut this week may be solid preparation for the grueling week to follow.
GL
Matchups
YTD: 35-40 (-10.68*)
Groups and 3 Balls
YTD: 3-8 (-2.84*)
Outrights
YTD: 7-42 (+1.44*)
An accurate enough tally for going forward. Matchups remain a big disappointment since The Masters. I've also hit four times on my chump
change parlays over the last five weeks to nearly break even on about 40 such plays, and enjoyed some nervous moments last week on a Justin Rose with Stuart Appleby parlay.
OUTRIGHTS
I avoided making any cuts I might regret, so I ended up with five outright plays that probably rate from solid to suspect.
David Toms(20/1 for 0.20* e.w. @ Bet365)
I'll take those odds when I have to rate him as very likely to be playing well on the weekend.
Billy Andrade(50/1 for 0.30* e.w. @ Bet365 with 60/1 To Win for $2 @ 5dimes)
Brings regional ties with his current form, his course form, and my intuitive expectations regarding his course compatibility.
Stewart Cink(50/1 for 0.30* e.w. @ Bet365)
His swing in his last two events was looking as confident (and as elegant) as ever, and he could well be ready to find the scoring switch for a nice run.
Phil Tataurangi(80/1 for 0.30* e.w. @ Bet365 with 100/1 To Win for $2 @ 5dimes)
I look for him to have an answer to an uncharacteristic week of wild driving, in which case I still believe Phil may be ready to pop.
Skip Kendall(100/1 for 0.20* e.w. @ Bet365)
His flashes of good form are rarely noteworthy over the course of four days. He has a spotty record at this venue and the field is packed with
quality. Nevertheless, I've been looking to back him in a spot that combines good signs coming in and a fair potential for the weekend.
Ironic is the word for how a missed cut this week may be solid preparation for the grueling week to follow.
GL
