I'll get the ball rolling - I was surprised to see the odds for Pernice at Bet365 - his course form is truly impressive - including a 1st and 4th place - his recent form is not great but he has made his last two cuts and has never really been in form coming into this event in the past - why is he 150/1???
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Outright play (1 unit):
Jim Furyk to win 16/1 e.w. @ BlueSq
Missed the cut in the British Open, but that should be of no concern back on the PGA Tour where he has been extremely impressive even before he won the U.S. Open. He has seven top-5 finishes in his last eleven Tour events on this side of the pond, which makes 16/1 look very generous indeed, particularly with Tiger having driver troubles and switching back from a Nike to a Titleist driver this week. Furyk's record in this event is similarly consistent, having made the cut on all eight previous visits and finishing in the top-20 on six of those occasions. Difficult to see him not on the leaderboard on Sunday.
Will post other plays later when Five Dimes' top-5 place lines appear.
Jim Furyk to win 16/1 e.w. @ BlueSq
Missed the cut in the British Open, but that should be of no concern back on the PGA Tour where he has been extremely impressive even before he won the U.S. Open. He has seven top-5 finishes in his last eleven Tour events on this side of the pond, which makes 16/1 look very generous indeed, particularly with Tiger having driver troubles and switching back from a Nike to a Titleist driver this week. Furyk's record in this event is similarly consistent, having made the cut on all eight previous visits and finishing in the top-20 on six of those occasions. Difficult to see him not on the leaderboard on Sunday.
Will post other plays later when Five Dimes' top-5 place lines appear.
Got Furyk at 16/1 with VC. I'm also on Verplank at 54/1 and Estes at 59/1. Both plays with Nordicbet.
Adding outright plays (1 unit):
Scott Verplank to finish in the top-five 17/2 @ Five Dimes
Verplank is a former winner of this title in 1988 and he has since been a runner-up in 1998 and in contention in each of the last three years, so he should be confident of a good week this week, particularly as he is playing very well at the moment. Ignoring the British Open, he has finished in the top-20 in eight of his last eleven events and while his temperament may be a little suspect when in the lead, he does look a likely contender this week.
Fred Funk to finish in the top-five 13/1 @ Five Dimes
Funk is another whose missed cut at the British Open can easily be ignored and so can his missed cut in the Greater Hartford Open last week. It is not easy to make the transition from links golf on another continent, so this should be the week that he returns to business as usual. That was the form that netted him three top-10 finishes in four events before Royal St. George's and there is good reason to expect Warwick Hills to bring out that form in him. In his last twelve visits, he has finished no worse than 21st on ten of those occasions, including 2nd last year. Not a prolific winner, but stands a better than 13/1 chance of finishing in the top-5.
Matchup plays (1 unit):
Steve Flesch to beat Robert Damron -118 @ Expekt
Damron is making cuts at the moment, which he wasn't doing at the start of the season - he missed his first seven cuts of 2003 - but this will be his 9th straight week of competitive golf as he tries to accumulate the funds needed to keep his Tour Card. Flesch is the better player, has a much better history at Warwick Hills and will be far fresher.
Glen Day to beat Todd Fischer -110 @ Bet365
Fischer should also be showing some signs of fatigue as this will be his 13th event in 15 weeks. He now has a chance of retaining his card after his 3rd place finish last week, but should be 2nd best in this match. Day finished 5th in the B.C. Open two weeks ago and has a good record on this course, whereas Fischer has yet to play it.
Bob Tway to beat Hank Kuehne +100 @ NordicBet
Similar story with this matchup. Kuehne has yet to play the course, whereas Tway has an excellent record around Warwick Hills with top-20 finishes in six of the last seven years, including a runners-up spot in 1999. Tway may not be in the best of form, but he always seems to play well here whether in-form or not.
Scott Verplank to finish in the top-five 17/2 @ Five Dimes
Verplank is a former winner of this title in 1988 and he has since been a runner-up in 1998 and in contention in each of the last three years, so he should be confident of a good week this week, particularly as he is playing very well at the moment. Ignoring the British Open, he has finished in the top-20 in eight of his last eleven events and while his temperament may be a little suspect when in the lead, he does look a likely contender this week.
Fred Funk to finish in the top-five 13/1 @ Five Dimes
Funk is another whose missed cut at the British Open can easily be ignored and so can his missed cut in the Greater Hartford Open last week. It is not easy to make the transition from links golf on another continent, so this should be the week that he returns to business as usual. That was the form that netted him three top-10 finishes in four events before Royal St. George's and there is good reason to expect Warwick Hills to bring out that form in him. In his last twelve visits, he has finished no worse than 21st on ten of those occasions, including 2nd last year. Not a prolific winner, but stands a better than 13/1 chance of finishing in the top-5.
Matchup plays (1 unit):
Steve Flesch to beat Robert Damron -118 @ Expekt
Damron is making cuts at the moment, which he wasn't doing at the start of the season - he missed his first seven cuts of 2003 - but this will be his 9th straight week of competitive golf as he tries to accumulate the funds needed to keep his Tour Card. Flesch is the better player, has a much better history at Warwick Hills and will be far fresher.
Glen Day to beat Todd Fischer -110 @ Bet365
Fischer should also be showing some signs of fatigue as this will be his 13th event in 15 weeks. He now has a chance of retaining his card after his 3rd place finish last week, but should be 2nd best in this match. Day finished 5th in the B.C. Open two weeks ago and has a good record on this course, whereas Fischer has yet to play it.
Bob Tway to beat Hank Kuehne +100 @ NordicBet
Similar story with this matchup. Kuehne has yet to play the course, whereas Tway has an excellent record around Warwick Hills with top-20 finishes in six of the last seven years, including a runners-up spot in 1999. Tway may not be in the best of form, but he always seems to play well here whether in-form or not.
72 hole
Estes +109 over DiMarco (pinnacle)
Furyk -1/2 -137 over Funk (sportingbet)
Baird -1/2 -120 over Sindelar (365)
good luck
Estes +109 over DiMarco (pinnacle)
Furyk -1/2 -137 over Funk (sportingbet)
Baird -1/2 -120 over Sindelar (365)
good luck
adding 72 holes
Baird -111 over Curtis @ B&W
Sluman -111 over Huston @ B&W
Day -110 over Fisher @ 365
Verplank -110 over Kelly @ 365
Already 2 huge winners and one HUGE loser before event. Winners,Tiger and Titleist. Losrer Nike.
Tig finally got smart enough to figure it is easier to play the better equipment than whine about others using it.
Titleist got the best endorsement possible "for free" Have seen no less than 3 different news stations elaborate his change to Titleist driver--and the fact that his Nike contract gives him op to player other equipment if he deems it better. Lets see, he uses "other" >driver -3 wood-wedge and putter.
Nike: Got to be in shock. They pay huge endorsement fees to try and buy creditability and it back fires--of course they always have Duval to fall back on. Can't wait to see the Nike rep down here as we have constant "discussions" on issue of Nike. He'll look like a sand crab trying to back out of this issue. :lol:
No outrights initially,this looks like good field to pop an in running.
Baird -111 over Curtis @ B&W
Sluman -111 over Huston @ B&W
Day -110 over Fisher @ 365
Verplank -110 over Kelly @ 365
Already 2 huge winners and one HUGE loser before event. Winners,Tiger and Titleist. Losrer Nike.
Tig finally got smart enough to figure it is easier to play the better equipment than whine about others using it.
Titleist got the best endorsement possible "for free" Have seen no less than 3 different news stations elaborate his change to Titleist driver--and the fact that his Nike contract gives him op to player other equipment if he deems it better. Lets see, he uses "other" >driver -3 wood-wedge and putter.
Nike: Got to be in shock. They pay huge endorsement fees to try and buy creditability and it back fires--of course they always have Duval to fall back on. Can't wait to see the Nike rep down here as we have constant "discussions" on issue of Nike. He'll look like a sand crab trying to back out of this issue. :lol:
No outrights initially,this looks like good field to pop an in running.
played against perry this week at laid -02 for 1 unit
pinnacle was price
also took funk -20 for 1/2 unit
good luck
pinnacle was price
also took funk -20 for 1/2 unit
good luck
Real stab in the dark this week and I am backing Mathew Goggin. I thought he did quite well in Our Open to a point and had his best finish of the year last week.I realise that he has yet to anything of note on tour but at 250/1 with Corals I will give it a go. Second bet goes to Chris Smith as he is also showing better form of late.I know he cant putt and this could turn into a putting competition but again I think it is worth a stab.
Other outsiders worth a stab are Tom Byrum, Cliff Kresge and Tom Pernice.
Other outsiders worth a stab are Tom Byrum, Cliff Kresge and Tom Pernice.
Steep price...
Steep price...
Howell -170 over Curtis
How much practicing do you think Ben has done the past couple weeks? Howell made 18-20 cuts, worth a shot. Good luck.
Steep price...
Howell -170 over Curtis
How much practicing do you think Ben has done the past couple weeks? Howell made 18-20 cuts, worth a shot. Good luck.
Adding (1 unit):
Jim Furyk to beat Jerry Kelly -180 @ WSEX
Huge contrast in form between these players. Kelly has missed the cut on both occasions he has played at Warwick Hills and he has missed the cut in four of his last eight starts. Wouldn't go much lower than these odds, but very confident that Furyk will be a factor this week.
Glen Hnatiuk to beat Steve Pate -115 @ Five Dimes
Can't see either of these two being a factor, though both did play well last week. It was a rare outing on the PGA Tour for Pate, who had missed his last four cuts on the PGA and Nationwide Tour. He has also missed his last four cuts in this event, so will side with the Canadian who looks far more likely to be playing on this Tour again next year.
1st round plays (1 unit unless stated):
Tom Byrum to beat Chris Smith -122 @ Five Dimes
Billy Mayfair to beat David Gossett -117 @ Five Dimes [2 units]
Glen Hnatiuk to beat Steve Pate -115 @ Five Dimes [2 units]
Jim Furyk to beat Jerry Kelly -180 @ WSEX
Huge contrast in form between these players. Kelly has missed the cut on both occasions he has played at Warwick Hills and he has missed the cut in four of his last eight starts. Wouldn't go much lower than these odds, but very confident that Furyk will be a factor this week.
Glen Hnatiuk to beat Steve Pate -115 @ Five Dimes
Can't see either of these two being a factor, though both did play well last week. It was a rare outing on the PGA Tour for Pate, who had missed his last four cuts on the PGA and Nationwide Tour. He has also missed his last four cuts in this event, so will side with the Canadian who looks far more likely to be playing on this Tour again next year.
1st round plays (1 unit unless stated):
Tom Byrum to beat Chris Smith -122 @ Five Dimes
Billy Mayfair to beat David Gossett -117 @ Five Dimes [2 units]
Glen Hnatiuk to beat Steve Pate -115 @ Five Dimes [2 units]
Jim Furyk OV/Tiger Woods+1.95
Tough to go against #1 but I think Jim be there Sunday. Three top 10's in this Tourny. Stanley's write says it all
Jim Furyk OV/Kenny Perry-1.25
Just think Kenny has to be gasing, been around the world playing non-stop. He's ready to miss a cut.
Jim Furyk WINS BUICK OPEN+12.00
Not as good of a price as some of the others but I like what I see and what you all have to say. I guess my eggs are all in the same basket.
Tough to go against #1 but I think Jim be there Sunday. Three top 10's in this Tourny. Stanley's write says it all
Jim Furyk OV/Kenny Perry-1.25
Just think Kenny has to be gasing, been around the world playing non-stop. He's ready to miss a cut.
Jim Furyk WINS BUICK OPEN+12.00
Not as good of a price as some of the others but I like what I see and what you all have to say. I guess my eggs are all in the same basket.
Jim Furyk to beat Fred Funk at 8/11 with SportingOdds
Time for me to jump on the Furyk bandwagon. Considering Funk is playing some of the best golf of his career, yet is still behind Furyk in most tournaments, says it all about the player Furyk is. Ultra consistent, he is likely to play a huge factor this week. Although I am not writing Funk off, Furyk is far more likely to win the tournament, and with a bagful of top ten finishes to his name already this season, he can be taken confidently to be ahead of Fred Funk again this week for the ninth occasion in their last eleven tournaments.
Time for me to jump on the Furyk bandwagon. Considering Funk is playing some of the best golf of his career, yet is still behind Furyk in most tournaments, says it all about the player Furyk is. Ultra consistent, he is likely to play a huge factor this week. Although I am not writing Funk off, Furyk is far more likely to win the tournament, and with a bagful of top ten finishes to his name already this season, he can be taken confidently to be ahead of Fred Funk again this week for the ninth occasion in their last eleven tournaments.
Scott Verplank to beat Chris DiMarco at 9/10 with Stan James
Admittedly opposing a top player in Chris Di Marco with proven course form. However, Scott Verplank is playing some very decent stuff, and has been ahead of DiMarco on eight occasions over their last nine tournaments (the other was a tie). Verplank has been consistently in contention in this event over the past four years, and playing as well as ever, can go a step closer this week. He is a more probable winner than DiMarco, who, one feels is not at his best, and who was in better form when finishing 2nd here two years ago.
Admittedly opposing a top player in Chris Di Marco with proven course form. However, Scott Verplank is playing some very decent stuff, and has been ahead of DiMarco on eight occasions over their last nine tournaments (the other was a tie). Verplank has been consistently in contention in this event over the past four years, and playing as well as ever, can go a step closer this week. He is a more probable winner than DiMarco, who, one feels is not at his best, and who was in better form when finishing 2nd here two years ago.
Stanley said:
plus with steve "volcano" pate there is always the added bonus that he might be putting with his driver by about the third hole after he wraps his putter around a tree
adding prop @ $plays
Verplank -110 to finish under 19 1/2
Current form and course form on Stans stats past 5 years would indicate this is better than 50/50 situation.
Several here indicate liking Furyk--for info purposes he is -110 to finish under 11 1/2---considered it but does not leave much margin for error.
Tiger's # is 4 1/2 If not for par 72 would look. He can bullshit all he wants bout his game being in same form this year and no slump but he is not in top 30 currently in either GIR's or ball striking and finish ranking past 4 years
GIR'S 1st 5th 1st 1st Ball Striking 2nd 12th 1st 1st
----so I say he needs to direct those comments to Curtis Strange or someone else naive.
another prop considered but will pass low rd over/under 63
They up it a stroke from last week @ 62 but HUGE diff. While there have been no 62's in past years here there have been several 63's(4 in one year)
Verplank -110 to finish under 19 1/2
Current form and course form on Stans stats past 5 years would indicate this is better than 50/50 situation.
Several here indicate liking Furyk--for info purposes he is -110 to finish under 11 1/2---considered it but does not leave much margin for error.
Tiger's # is 4 1/2 If not for par 72 would look. He can bullshit all he wants bout his game being in same form this year and no slump but he is not in top 30 currently in either GIR's or ball striking and finish ranking past 4 years
GIR'S 1st 5th 1st 1st Ball Striking 2nd 12th 1st 1st
----so I say he needs to direct those comments to Curtis Strange or someone else naive.
another prop considered but will pass low rd over/under 63
They up it a stroke from last week @ 62 but HUGE diff. While there have been no 62's in past years here there have been several 63's(4 in one year)
Outrights:
Jerry Kelly(56/1) for 0.50* e.w. @ Olympic
Hank Kuehne(125/1 & 140/1) for 0.50* e.w. @ Bet365 & Olympic
1st Round Leader:
Robert Damron(66/1) for 0.20* @ Bet365
Stephen Ames(66/1) for 0.20* @ Bet365
Matchups:
Howell(-170) over Curtis (Tournament) for 1* @ Bet365
GL
Jerry Kelly(56/1) for 0.50* e.w. @ Olympic
Hank Kuehne(125/1 & 140/1) for 0.50* e.w. @ Bet365 & Olympic
1st Round Leader:
Robert Damron(66/1) for 0.20* @ Bet365
Stephen Ames(66/1) for 0.20* @ Bet365
Matchups:
Howell(-170) over Curtis (Tournament) for 1* @ Bet365
GL
Dudley Heart has done it again. Mr. Hart withdrew last week after an opening round of 69. He has done it again today after an even par 72. WHAT' UP? Loser.
1st round update: 2-0-1; +3.00 units
Byrum/Smith WON by 4
Mayfair/Gossett WON by 5
Hnatiuk/Pate TIED (Push)
2nd round plays (1 unit unless stated):
Bob Estes to beat Jerry Kelly -110 @ Sirbet [2 units]
Chris DiMarco to beat David Sutherland -167 @ NordicBet
Olin Browne to beat Tom Byrum -105 @ NordicBet [2 units]
Byrum/Smith WON by 4
Mayfair/Gossett WON by 5
Hnatiuk/Pate TIED (Push)
2nd round plays (1 unit unless stated):
Bob Estes to beat Jerry Kelly -110 @ Sirbet [2 units]
Chris DiMarco to beat David Sutherland -167 @ NordicBet
Olin Browne to beat Tom Byrum -105 @ NordicBet [2 units]
Kenny is the Fricken Bunny
Kenny is the Fricken Bunny
He's 2 under after 5, -5 for the tourny. I just can't beleive he kicking ass again.
Kenny is the Fricken Bunny
He's 2 under after 5, -5 for the tourny. I just can't beleive he kicking ass again.
