Bye

[katts]

I'm outa here. I don't trust this place anymore. Well not "this place" in its whole but a part of what it is. Many offshores have "spies" and read all the stuff here, and try to take advantage of it... So why should I share my "secrets" with you anymore? And only a few cares anyway - so it doesn't worth it. Yesterday I posted some facts (f-a-c-t-s) about you know what (don't look back btw, it's deleted), and surprise surprise, what a coincidence, starting today, a "certain" type of bet is no longer accepted at Intertops, one of the biggest online sportsbook on the net. Last time it was another offshore.

It's like everything else in the world of gambling: as soon as you find a way to "crook the crooks", they change the rules. That's ok, it's normal. It's a game. But I had my lesson.. next time I find out an interesting system, I'll shut it.

It's been fun and all... but I really don't like being spied.

Oh yes.. I *might* come back, but it won't be as "katts", trust me. And I won't post any stats or comments, I'll just post the picks and mention something like "BIG" at times. People like RAYMOND are the wise guys here. Don't give the tricks... Just bring the picks.

Bye all.

Good luck for the end of the season.

katts @ MadJack
November 12 2000 - March 29 2001
R.I.P.

 

[Ice Picks]

KATTS - Sorry to see you go - you always had some good thoughts.

Just for my info, what kind of bet was cancelled at Intertops? And was it Hockey related or other sports?

 

[stify]

your right thats why when people ask for a reason on who...what...and why!who cares just post the pick!

do not give info on how to beat the system because books will close that side of the bizz!

 

[Dimmu]

Same here katts - from what I saw in my short time here you have some good angles on the games...so long.

bonne chance dans le futur

-Dimmu

 

[jigs]

You will be missed my friend. Your number crunching is simply amazing! I remember when you first started posting and thought I have read this persons posts before. I know you will return under another pseudonym

GL.

 

[Nick Douglas]

katts,

I hope you change your mind but if not you will be missed. If nothing else I learned a lot about S/T parlays and I will use that in the future.

 

[HorsPlyrBil]

No way! ..The place won't be the same without you bud..Your posts were all substance all the time.

Baseball Totals 2 days away so keep in touch..you know how..

Best of luck

HPB

 

[Rakman]

I think that's realy sad for a sportsbook to do that,I hope your closing your account there. It's hard enough to turn a profit without a book changing the rules.I think of this as a great place to get/give information, and to see other people's views and opinions.To bad it has to be used against us.
Your knowledge will be missed.

 

[TORONTO-VIGILANTE]

Katts, in the short time that I have known you , I have learned alot about parlays and your keen sense of "heightened" awareness about sides and probabilities.
I'm sorry for you that it had to end that way, but like you said, learn from your experiences, keep your mouth shut and **** the wave until it takes you home...

Good luck in the future and "trust no one".
You will be missed, as well as your humour and willingness to educate us.

and remember everyone:

Ipsa scientia potestas est :
Knowledge itself is power

(just make sure you educate the people that you trust.)

TORONTO-VIGILANTE



[This message has been edited by TORONTO-VIGILANTE (edited 03-29-2001).]

 

[MadJack]

Yesterday I posted some facts (f-a-c-t-s) about you know what (don't look back btw, it's deleted),

i hate to see you go, katts, but before you do, i can guarantee one thing. NONE of your posts were deleted from this site, NONE!

and, believe me. the books don't send spies in here to learn the business. that just isn't happening. not now and not ever.

please reconsider.

-Jack

 

[Frogy]

Katts.
Once again: "sorry for my english"

I could try to make you change your mind but looks like its your : final answer.

I know how much time, thinking, reading, computing and energy it takes to try to beat the lines so you dont have to explain how frustrated you are about what happen.
I also know that its frustrating at times to be judge by a single post and that one post doesn't always reflect what you are doing........but not posting.
It is fun and i think a need for some to be reconize for the work they are doing and that is why sometimes we are posting more than we should.
Personally i dont post all my picks, numbers and tools but from times to time i will exchange deeper in a subject but if what you are saying is right i just dont see why i should post in here myself.

Is this a place only to meet quality people, to build relations and to exchange with them by e-mail your work?

Maybe leaving is not the answer or in your case just changing the style of the post would do it. They're are some quality people in here and there is still a lot to be done so we can be better as individual and as a group: its a working progress and this site is getting better and better and you are part of the solution and not part of a problem.
Your decision is raising some serious questions in my mind.

Salut mon pot.
MERDE

 

[thepoolguy]

The post was deleted. I printed it off. For anyone who wants I will re-type and send it to them. log@sportsmail.com

 

[Frogy]

Sorry to bring this back but i like when things are clear and this one is not for me at the present. I respect Katts a great deal ( i also respect Mad jack and the site)and i'm shure Katts(as i do) would like to know the reality and the fiction.

Katts:Yesterday I posted some facts (f-a-c-t-s) about you know what (don't
look back btw, it's deleted),
Mad jack: , i can guarantee one thing. NONE of your posts were delete from this site NONE!
thepoolguy: The post was deleted. I printed it off.

Tx if you can help me understand.

 

[Dimmu]

Frogy, I think what was meant is that katts himself edited out the offending text from the message...MadJack just wanted to make sure katts (and everyone else) knew there was no censorship going on. thepoolguy printed off the thread before katts edited it.

I don't want to speak for anyone here, so please correct me if I'm wrong...this is just how I read the situation.

-Dimmu

 

[MadJack]

Dimmu- you have it exactly correct.

 

[Hoops]

"and, believe me. the books don't send spies in here to learn the business. that just isn't happening. not now and not ever."

Just to reiterate Jack's quote...as if Intertops (might be one of the biggest, but certainly not the best nor where "big" money is played) has "spies" lurking in every forum, looking for new trends or systems posters might have discovered...sorry but it's almost laughable.

 

[katts]

Sorry if i have to post another time in this thread, but I really don't like being annoyed by someone who comes in the NHL forum once a month just to bash people...

Yeah, sure Hoops. Let me laugh with you: HAHAHA - How fun. You also really seem to know what you're talking about. Your insight is always appreciated in the NHL forum

Politicians are always trustable too i assume... "Parts unknown" heh? Let me guess... New York? Whatever...

You know, reality as what it is and reality as what "they" want you to believe (what I call "brainwashing") are two complete different things. The Internet is one huge thing. VERY huge. I called Intertops today. Believe me... if the word "spy" is a bit exagerated, the word "contacts" is fully appropriated here.

BTW thanks to all of you for your support and kind words, it's really appreciated... I'll reconsider my decision. But whatever I decide I will no longer post any information about math and probabilities. Just picks and maybe some basic trends - but that's it. But the real me ("katts") is dead... or at least is "in coma" for a couple of months. "That for should".

 

[Frogy]

"""in the NHL forum once a month just to bash people"""..........
JUST WHAT I WANTED TO SAY BUT I DIDN'T WANT TO CONTINU TO MAKE A BIG DEAL OUT OF THIS.

This forum as always been about respecting what everyone had to say and i just dont like what i'm seeng right now........

"""sorry but it's almost laughable.""""

thats a low post (being polite) towards someone who added a lot to the penality box, was never negative and didn't start any fires: we should be supportive, creative and try to understand in such a case.

I was looking towards bb season and playoff but thats enough for me i'm out of here also...

I'll reconsider my decision "when and if" Katts does.

We always say the pen box is family: thats how i treat my family, by respecting it and sticking whit it.

 

[Hoops]

Katts- I won't even bother arguing with you regarding your X-Files case with Intertops.

"but I really don't like being annoyed by someone who comes in the NHL forum once a month just to bash people..."

But could you please show me all these other posts I made in this Penalty Box forum...Not including the two posts today...hmm, let's see...1 post and that was in November. And that post was in response to dsmith, whowas posting Games of the year and month almost everyday.

And yes, I'll change my "location" back to New York just for you. Give me a call sometime and we can go watch some jai alai together.

[This message has been edited by Hoops (edited 03-30-2001).]

 

[CrazyHorse]

Katts,

Really hope you change your mind. I have only been betting NHL since the middle of last year. Along with College Football it is the sport I make the most $ at and I feel I am still learning the game, players, etc. Your insight has been a great help during the year. If not just let me add to what the others have said by thanking you again and wishing you luck in the playoffs.