Calderon vs Cazares

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I told some of you about Skybets today.

They have a line for Cazares ITD at +900. :scared
 

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I told some of you about Skybets today.

They have a line for Cazares ITD at +900. :scared

that is insane!..........i hedged a couple calderon pars with cazares inside at +430 and i thought that was generous....

you HAVE to put something on that...and it doesn`t have to be much...

very nice....
 

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calderon/cazares card over at justin t.v....

eric morel/heriberto ruiz is on....

guys that had decent careers...
 
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that is insane!..........i hedged a couple calderon pars with cazares inside at +430 and i thought that was generous....

you HAVE to put something on that...and it doesn`t have to be much...

very nice....
I could not resist bud. I will be up big if Calderon wins.
I will be up huge if Cazares wins ITD.
I will be up shit creek without a paddle if Cazares wins on points LOL.

I don't think the little Fella's are on until around 11 EST.

Good luck all.
 

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this is the 2nd time in my life that i played 12rd decision, and ko/tko/dq props. the previous time i did it was clottey vs judah, and I lost every single one of my plays.

On this fight, I just lost every single one of my plays.

Ive just hit an occurrence of about +100000 odds. This is great.
 

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well I just added another few hundred to Juan Diaz to beat Katsidis. I am shamelessly chasing losses here, this is an outrageous and humiliating outcome.
 

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well...cazares was just literally running after calderon....

honestly,these guys aren`t in the same weight class...and that didn`t even feel like i was watching boxing....

cue the twilight zone music...
 

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well this may be a good time to mention im salivating for the tim bradley-edner cherry sept 13 line. that's another huge one for me, all over bradley.

we need to get a line on that.
 

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btw weepaul, does skybet actually list the prop as ITD?

I believe I saw the prop as Cazares 1-12, so if he won by TD in the 7th, it wouldnt win, but rather be considered a decision? i had clottey 7-12, but the rd9 decision was a loser.
 

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well this may be a good time to mention im salivating for the tim bradley-edner cherry sept 13 line. that's another huge one for me, all over bradley.

we need to get a line on that.

I wonder what Calderon inside the distance paid. Like Zerwas, I was looking for the knockdown prop and Cazares was getting closer in 6 & 7. It really looked to me like Calderon couldn't keep that massive movement going for the 2nd half of the fight. Zerwas.... we would have fricken cashed.
 

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you know,i saw no way that calderon stops caseraz short of a cut.......didn`t see it happening.....

and i really didn`t expect calderon to lose a decision in puerto rico(which was pretty solid logic given the scores at the time of the stoppage/i thought it was actually closer)....

so,the only logical fly in the ointment was a headbutt or a foul....

i guess i underestimated casarez out of control approach to this fight...

:shrug:
 

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btw weepaul, does skybet actually list the prop as ITD?

I believe I saw the prop as Cazares 1-12, so if he won by TD in the 7th, it wouldnt win, but rather be considered a decision? i had clottey 7-12, but the rd9 decision was a loser.
The prop was Cazares 1-12, so Cazares would need a KO within the 12 rounds to win. At +900, I had to take it.

I made out very good tonight as I had Calderon for the win. I did not think the decision prop for Calderon was worth the risk.
I would have lost big time if Cazares won on points.

I learned my lesson when Tony Thompson stopped Luan Krasniqi in 5 rounds. I bet Thompson to win on points at +300. Thompson just to win was +250 but I had to be a greedy Bastard and paid the price.
 

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you know,i saw no way that calderon stops caseraz short of a cut.......didn`t see it happening.....

and i really didn`t expect calderon to lose a decision in puerto rico(which was pretty solid logic given the scores at the time of the stoppage/i thought it was actually closer)....

so,the only logical fly in the ointment was a headbutt or a foul....

i guess i underestimated casarez out of control approach to this fight...

:shrug:


The headbutt if you watch is more Calderon's fault, almost looked intentional to me as
Cazares was dropping his head the side and Calderon kept his head pushing forward fast. Looked to me by the 6th round, Calderon decided to stand in the pocket because no way he could run that much for 12 rounds, pushing 34 years of age.... I think Calderon lucked out with the cut. Cazares was just starting to land.
 

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I wonder what Calderon inside the distance paid. Like Zerwas, I was looking for the knockdown prop and Cazares was getting closer in 6 & 7. It really looked to me like Calderon couldn't keep that massive movement going for the 2nd half of the fight. Zerwas.... we would have fricken cashed.

ouch...you know what, I was on Cazares straight, by decision and I got great odds on Cazares to win in rounds 7-9 and 10-12, each paid about +2200!(I didnt post it here, because nobody seems to have gamebookers)
Plus the very generous odds on a knockdwon / ko at bodog for +400.
The last two lines were wayyy off!!!

No surprise that Calderon won the first half of the fight, I expected Cazares to come on strong in the second half of the fight and after reading you post, I'm pretty sure he would have....

That's pretty f***ed up actually.... : /


I think Calderon inside pait more than +1000 at some books.


And, btw, the man lost both plays on saturday, I played Valuev by decision after I saw the weigh in results, but thats about it....not a good week for me.
 

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The headbutt if you watch is more Calderon's fault, almost looked intentional to me as
Cazares was dropping his head the side and Calderon kept his head pushing forward fast. Looked to me by the 6th round, Calderon decided to stand in the pocket because no way he could run that much for 12 rounds, pushing 34 years of age.... I think Calderon lucked out with the cut. Cazares was just starting to land.


from your mouth to god`s ear...if only.....


i don`t believe i assigned blame.....what i was saying is that you have a righty/lefty situation and a guy that`s coming forward in a more than a little bit of an out of control manner....

i should`ve given that more consideration...


we`ll never know what would`ve happened if not for the cut...

we do know cazeras has 2 l`s on his record from calderon...
 
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