Very good advice Jim0. I don't know how long you have been viewing the forum but I do see you only have 10 posts. It also seems like you are also getting caught up in the "Big Names" in a few different ways also. Like Jim0 says take a step back. Sometimes you can't see the forest for the trees. Baseball is a long season and you can afford to take sometime off. Watch who does what on these boards and try to see why. Know for a fact who the good cappers are here and learn from them. MadJack offers the bestbettor area where players who chose to be monitored are monitored. Its interesting I found everyone in the top 10 there are public players, meaning you can view their plays as soon as they are selected. There are also some great cappers on the forum that keep honest updated records ndnfan (who I have heard good things about), Allnet & Nick Douglas (who I know are good cappers) etc. otherwise you will have to chart them individually to be certain of their capabilities. Right under your nose you have one of the best Bseball people I know in MadJack. I know as I participated against him in the Ultimate Handicapping Contest and watched how he did things last year. He was in the top 10 all year and most of the year in first or second place. He is having another great year as he's up over 10,000 now this year and he is free right on these boards. I don't know why but when someone mentions the supposedly good players (God's?) on this forum he is left off. It cracks me up. Why, because he never brags about how good he actually is, because he doesn't do writeups which is so unbelievably overrated, or possibly because I never hear anyone else even praise him. I don't know, but I don't know of anyone I respect more than him when it comes to Baseball or Football handicapping and I know a ton of players and services, since I participate against them all constantly. I have played against services a few years now at the UHC etc and I have found out 98% are nothing special at all. Actually 2/3's of them will have losing records. Now you don't know me from Adam but I finished 13th last year in Baseball, currently #15 at the UHC. I finished 10th in the NFL contest. I am ranked #2 at the NSM in Baseball this year and 4th Overall out of 81 services. I finish every sport in these contests in positive units and thats using 20 cent lines and their spreads. I do this and I am not a service. I don't have to be. Now I say this not to brag but to let you know that I know of a lot of players and services out there and that the best ones are the ones that are just normal Joe's and are free. Maybe I said more then I should. :shrug: