Clarence Thomas on the take? You mean money affects the Supremes, too?

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Democrats mobilize over Clarence Thomas ethics investigation
By Rachel Rose Hartman | The Ticket ? 16 hrs ago

Forty-six House Democrats have joined forces this week to ask the chamber's Judiciary Committee to investigate Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas for ethics violations. The Democratic lawmakers' complaint argues that reports of Thomas' actions--including those related to the high-profile political activism of his wife, Virginia "Ginni" Thomas--have raised concerns about potential conflicts of interest.

"Public records clearly demonstrate that Justice Thomas has failed to accurately disclose information concerning the income and employment status of his wife, as required by law," Democrats led by Earl Blumenauer (D-Ore.) and Louise Slaughter (D-N.Y.) wrote in a letter (pdf) Wednesday to leaders of the Judiciary Committee. The Democrats also question whether Thomas accurately reported gifts and inappropriately solicited donations.
Blumenauer's office confirmed to The Ticket Thursday afternoon that 46 lawmakers have signed on.

Liberal watchdog group Common Cause recently reported that Thomas' wife earned around $1.6 million between 1997 and 2011--and that Justice Thomas did not report her income over the same time span. Thomas said he "inadvertently" failed to file information on wife's employment "due to a misunderstanding of the filing instructions."

(My note: THIS is a man we want making sense of the most important court cases of our time?!? He misunderstands simple instructions?!?)

A Supreme Court spokeswoman Kathy Arberg told the Huffington Post this week that justices are not required to disclose the amount earned by spouses--only the source of their spouses' income. But Democrats argue that Thomas may have been intentionally withholding the information.

"There is now more than enough evidence to merit a formal inquiry as to whether Justice Thomas willfully failed to make legally required disclosures, perhaps for as long as 13 years," Common Cause president Bob Edgar said in a statement Wednesday. "Given that we now know he correctly completed the reports in prior years, it's hardly plausible--indeed, it's close to unbelievable--that Justice Thomas did not understand the instructions."

(My note: And we see that he understood the directions in prior years? Just not this year? Any why is that - perhaps due to his wife pocketing money from interests against Obama and Obamacare?)

Democrats contend that the Supreme Court's protocols for such disclosures should be more transparent. "Because the Court continues to operate without a binding code of ethics or a transparent recusal process, it is time for Congress to exercise its Constitutional role and become involved in this process," Blumenauer said in a statement.
Ginni Thomas has become embroiled in several scandals over the past year.

In Oct. 2010, Thomas made headlines for calling the office of Anita Hill-- the woman who gained national exposure 20 years ago when she testified during Clarence Thomas' confirmation hearing that the nominee sexually harassed her. In last year's call, Ginni Thomas left a voicemail message seeking an apology from Hill.

Soon after, Ginni Thomas stepped down from conservative group Liberty Central, which she founded, citing "distractions" caused by her celebrity.

Her role at Liberty Central and her work with other conservative advocacy groups had raised questions about possible conflicts-of-interest for her spouse. The New York Times' Jackie Calmes last year said Thomas had "the most partisan role ever for a spouse of a justice on the nation's highest court."
Common Cause reports that most of the undisclosed funds earned by Ginni Thomas came from the conservative Heritage Foundation, a conservative think tank based in Washington.


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If you don't think this story has any legs - spend a little time on the Heritage Foundation website, take special note on their opinions and efforts (certainly well-funded) on Healthcare. This ain't a stretch, people.
 

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Is this how Obama is trying to get control of the Supreme Court? I was thinking the Obama administration would Assassinate a conservative member.

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JMO
 

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Chad - don't you think it is possible that the whole strategy here is for the Dems to get rid of Thomas before Obamacare goes before the Supreme Court?

It seems like what Thomas is accused of does not reach nearly the level of what Charlie Rangel did. Charlie broke laws - it does not appear that Thomas did.

I realize a SC justice and a congressman are 2 different positions, with different expectations of each. But if Charlie pretty much got off scott free, then surely Thomas (if he is guilty of anything) should/will too.

There is more about Obamacare than anything else. The Dems are starting to realize that the law (the mandate specifically) won't hold muster. So, they need to start trying to change the makeup of the court so they can "win".

My guess is that they will eliminate any conservative on the SC they can, but any means necessary. As Obama said about the healthcare bill "the ends justify the means". I'm sure they feel the same way about the SC - they will eliminate conservative members in any possible.

Don't forget Obama's Chicago roots. I wouldn't put anything past this administration to get their way.
 
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When you find something that was a Payoff and Directly Influenced a decision let us know..
Otherwise Same shit Different Day in Washington..
99% are Dirtbags and are a Pile of Narcissistic Elitest POS..
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You ask these questions of Thomas :
(My note: THIS is a man we want making sense of the most important court cases of our time?!? He misunderstands simple instructions?!?)

yet you are not concerned about Eric Holder saying he knew nothing about Fast and Furious yet 5 memos from July 2010 say he did and now, he says he misunderstood the question?

Again, this is a man who graduated from Columbia and Columbia Law?

How about Geithner who runs the Treasury who couldn't file his own taxes correctly?
 

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A couple things... I'm not up on the Geitner case, or really the Holder one either, but if they are lying or did something wrong it should be examined. Rangel went through a helluva lot, and I thought should have lost his position. Neither has anything to do with Thomas, but always expect deflections here and elsewhere.

I don't doubt that much of this has to do with Obamacare, but why shouldn't what Thomas and his wife did (or didn't do) be something to look at and examine? It certainly seems problematic from a common sense view, and is it more important to protect them than it is to allow them to "rule" on an issue that they directly profited from? I certainly think this has merit - if look AT THIS, and not talk about other things. If they've done nothing wrong (which it certainly seems like they have done wrong and profited for it) then they have nothing to worry about.

Sorry, I'm way more concerned about a Supreme Court Justice and his wife profiting from connections that can have ultimate "judgement" on the laws of this land than I am a congressman who is on the take. 1 of 9 is far more important than 1 of 435, for crying out loud. It's not remotely close from my perspective.

Nice to see you have a problem with all the conservative legislators as well as the progressive ones, PRO. That is truly a first. Go back to hiding from the story in hopes it isn't found to be true - that's easier, I know. I wonder if Beck would have left it alone if this was a democrat? Oh, wait, we KNOW that isn't the case, don't we? Ah, the irony strikes again... :0074
 

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You ask these questions of Thomas :


yet you are not concerned about Eric Holder saying he knew nothing about Fast and Furious yet 5 memos from July 2010 say he did and now, he says he misunderstood the question?

Again, this is a man who graduated from Columbia and Columbia Law?

How about Geithner who runs the Treasury who couldn't file his own taxes correctly?

SSD, they just IGNORE these storys, just like most major news outlets, i'm suprised that CBC is letting Sharyl Attkisson continue with the story.
 

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A couple things... I'm not up on the Geitner case, or really the Holder one either, but if they are lying or did something wrong it should be examined. Rangel went through a helluva lot, and I thought should have lost his position. Neither has anything to do with Thomas, but always expect deflections here and elsewhere.

I don't doubt that much of this has to do with Obamacare, but why shouldn't what Thomas and his wife did (or didn't do) be something to look at and examine? It certainly seems problematic from a common sense view, and is it more important to protect them than it is to allow them to "rule" on an issue that they directly profited from? I certainly think this has merit - if look AT THIS, and not talk about other things. If they've done nothing wrong (which it certainly seems like they have done wrong and profited for it) then they have nothing to worry about.

Sorry, I'm way more concerned about a Supreme Court Justice and his wife profiting from connections that can have ultimate "judgement" on the laws of this land than I am a congressman who is on the take. 1 of 9 is far more important than 1 of 435, for crying out loud. It's not remotely close from my perspective.

Nice to see you have a problem with all the conservative legislators as well as the progressive ones, PRO. That is truly a first. Go back to hiding from the story in hopes it isn't found to be true - that's easier, I know. I wonder if Beck would have left it alone if this was a democrat? Oh, wait, we KNOW that isn't the case, don't we? Ah, the irony strikes again... :0074

Chadman - specifically in regards to the case of Obamacare, I would assume then you'd also agree that Elena Kagen should be recused, since she prepared a significant number of legal arguments to defend Obamacare in the event it would go to the Supreme Court, before she left the WH?

Don't you think that had a lot to do with her appointment by Obama?

I really think, for Obama, that protecting his "legacy" - Obamacare - is much more important to him than the economy, how the country is doing, etc. He is easily the most vain and narcissistic president we've ever had. It's all about him.

Never seen a president on TV as much as him. Never saw one on the "View" or picking basketball winners on a NCAA show.

He doesn't care about you or I - or anyone else for that matter. Just about him. And our country has been much worse off the last 3 years because of it.
 

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You ask these questions of Thomas :


yet you are not concerned about Eric Holder saying he knew nothing about Fast and Furious yet 5 memos from July 2010 say he did and now, he says he misunderstood the question?

Again, this is a man who graduated from Columbia and Columbia Law?

How about Geithner who runs the Treasury who couldn't file his own taxes correctly?

For a guy who doesn't want anyone to ever blame Bush for anything u sure are turning this story into a blame game :facepalm:
 

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what?

i'm a fiscal conservative. Think I'm a Bush guy?

Blame Bush all you want. The guy's been gone for 3 years. At some point, this Pres and his admin has to be accountable.

I really do not care who they are. If they are a public servant - they need to be accountable and tell the truth.

Liars are rampant in our political system on both sides. I want them all exposed.
 

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what?

i'm a fiscal conservative. Think I'm a Bush guy?

Blame Bush all you want. The guy's been gone for 3 years. At some point, this Pres and his admin has to be accountable.

I really do not care who they are. If they are a public servant - they need to be accountable and tell the truth.

Liars are rampant in our political system on both sides. I want them all exposed.

i agree but the question was about Thomas not Holder or Geithner.
 

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Chadman - specifically in regards to the case of Obamacare, I would assume then you'd also agree that Elena Kagen should be recused, since she prepared a significant number of legal arguments to defend Obamacare in the event it would go to the Supreme Court, before she left the WH?

Don't you think that had a lot to do with her appointment by Obama?

I really think, for Obama, that protecting his "legacy" - Obamacare - is much more important to him than the economy, how the country is doing, etc. He is easily the most vain and narcissistic president we've ever had. It's all about him.

Never seen a president on TV as much as him. Never saw one on the "View" or picking basketball winners on a NCAA show.

He doesn't care about you or I - or anyone else for that matter. Just about him. And our country has been much worse off the last 3 years because of it.

I don't doubt Kagen's appointment was done in large part with an eye on the health legislation. Presidents have been appointing those supportive of their political agenda for years. I don't remember anything coming out about Kagen regarding being on the take or having a steady income from a political foundation and being an activitst for them and their causes, however. I think that is a difference - and it would have come out, don't you think? I also don't think that the fact that Kagan has a strong opinion about an issue to the point of dealing with the points of a law necessarily preclude her as being a judge of that law. If so, most of the judges would have to sit out many of the cases before them. Now, if they had been profiting extensively from entities on one side or the other in the efforts to sway opinion on a case - that would be more concerning to me, which is apparently what we have going on here.

I know there is a quick attempt here to look at others around and say "what about this person, that person." Ironically in large part by those who want us to focus only on Obama and not Bush, et al. Practice what you preach, much? :shrug:

As for Obama and the country, I think your points may be fairly valid. I think he (like many before him, by the way) are concerned with their legacy. And not sure all of what he does is about the country. He does seem to be a little more concerned about his image in a lot of ways than some others.
 

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I also don't think that the fact that Kagan has a strong opinion about an issue to the point of dealing with the points of a law necessarily preclude her as being a judge of that law.

Look at Chad, he doesn't think that a person that had a lot of input on ObamaCare, would have any problem being Unbiased.

That Really is a Pity, Really.

JMHO

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I don't doubt Kagen's appointment was done in large part with an eye on the health legislation. Presidents have been appointing those supportive of their political agenda for years.

The above statement is what's wrong with the Court. They shouldn't be supporting an agenda, they should be interpreting the law as it was written.


I'm not sure what can be done to Thomas...even if he was put in jail could they take him off the court? Appointment for life...:shrug:
 
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