computer help needed please
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They can track your ISP number, and the name and address of your provider. It's a crap shoot from there whether they can get your name/address from the provider or not. It's highly unlikely that your ISP would give out any info on the customers unless law enforcement was involved, UNLESS, they had a few crackers around that knew what they were doing!!! I would say you're safe!!!
the reason im asking is because im doing it from work and i wanted to know if i was to post my ip # on here if one of you guys can tell me what you find out from it?
i got one more question if i place bets online how does the book get my ip#?thanks guys for the help
highly unlikely you will get caught. lets just hope your profession is not in professional sports and you are using inside info to profit.
then it can come back to haunt you.your company must have static ip addresses so yes in some way it is traceable. whether or not it comes back to you dont know.you should download software and install on that computer you use it will make your IP untraceable and invisible.its called ip invisible i think. gl.
then it can come back to haunt you.your company must have static ip addresses so yes in some way it is traceable. whether or not it comes back to you dont know.you should download software and install on that computer you use it will make your IP untraceable and invisible.its called ip invisible i think. gl.
I'm curious, "IP tracers", sounds fascinating. Of course, this is what I presently do for my line of work, and well, but a few facts wouldn't stop anyone from rampant paranoia and urban legend, right???
IF you want IP addresses directly then you'll have to hack into a sites connection logs. Now, how many hits does any site get a day? How many hours do you have to sit down with those logs and figure out which one of those IP addresses is your victims address? How good a hacker are you? Can you hack into the logs and find the logs for the actual SITE that you set up to trap your victim?
Aahh, you can't but you know this guy who can.
Riiiiight. Uh-huh. Yup. Sure you do.
The only way to trace people's IP addresses is to put a link up in a post or in a room to a website that you administer. If you ONLY put the link up on your own site and invite your victim to that site and they visit your web server, THEN you might actually have something. If you put the link up on any site or forum, well!!!Since you administer that website and that web server you log the IP addresses of all the browsers that visit the site. That's easy to do, lots of basic administrator tools do that anyway.
Can that be done? Sure!!! BUT then you have to:
1. Have access the web server (brain-dead easy to run a web server these days), but have you done it?
2. Own the domain, that, or you reveal the IP address of the web server. Well, domains cost seventy five bucks for two years, easily within the monetary range of the obsessive. That'll give you a pointer account with Verio, and they'll point traffic to your server. BTW, showing your servers IP address is moot anyway because a reverse DNS lookup will tell anyone who cares what the hostname is/IP address is of your server. You're trapping your victims IP address, but giving up your own in the process??? Aaaah, can we talk about how stupid you are, here??? When we're done with that can we talk about how obsessed you are???
But I digress.
3. OK so now you've tagged some number of IP addresses that have visited your web server in a given time because you put a link up on YOUR site. How do you know which one is the one that belongs to your intended victim, or the one you obsess over??? Which one of the 50 browsers who visited YOUR site because you put the link up on YOUR SITE is THE ONE??? I suppose you could do DNS lookups on all the folks who visit. Now, it could be that they're visiting your site from work. If that's the case then a reverse DNS lookup will tell you, maybe, where they work. Maybe. Maybe not. That depends on how the companys network admin team configures their hostnames. But that's 50, or God knows how many bits of information you don't need!!! How do you know which one is the right one, the one that belongs to your victim?
I guess if you put the link up on a private site and nobody else has the password to it and they click on the link you've left there, you'll have their IP address and host name. That great, but wait, you're not done, yet.
You know that most ISP's distribute IP addresses by something called DHCP. What that means from a practical standpoint is that the ISP has a pool of IP addresses and they hand them out to their customers as they long on. So Your Victim has 173.32.133.23 today, but tomorrow they'll have 193.32.136.4
It changes, see? So, what if you know their IP address right now, it won't do you any good. Well, I suppose it'll do SOMETHING, a reverse DNS lookup of that IP address will tell you who their ISP is.
What do you do if your reverse DNS lookup reveals that the IP address you just trapped goes back to Earthlink or AOL? Whoop-de-doo, your victim happens to have an internet account at earthlink. So what??? What's that going to do for you??? The next time they log on they'll probably pull a different address, so knowing the one they have on this session doesn't do you any good!!! If they're using a DSL then they might have a static address and will use it over and over again. So I suppose you could try to hack their machine via the IP address if they're using DSL. Maybe if you were a really good hacker you could do that.
But I ask you, how can you go from the IP address to their name and home address and home telephone number? How are you going to be able to find out that the IP address of 124.55.62.126 leads to Joe Schlabotnick, residing at 69 Inyourface Way, Scrotum, New Jersey, telephone number 699-6969??? What're you gonna do, hack into Earthlink or AOL's customer data files??? I don't **think** so.
So all this huzzah about tracking IP addresses and IP tracers leading back to any real information that can be used to hurt someone is a bunch of hogwash.
If you want to worry about someone stealing your identity, your time is better spent chewing up old credit card receipts than worrying about IP security.
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But go ahead, ye of great knowledge and ye of even greater paranoia. EXPLAIN to me how you, or the ones you hate can technologically FIND YOU from a post you make at a site. Don't hide behind mumbo-jumbo like "IP Tracer", which is a crock of shit. Just tell me in real network lingo. Prove me wrong. I'm waiting!!!
IF you want IP addresses directly then you'll have to hack into a sites connection logs. Now, how many hits does any site get a day? How many hours do you have to sit down with those logs and figure out which one of those IP addresses is your victims address? How good a hacker are you? Can you hack into the logs and find the logs for the actual SITE that you set up to trap your victim?
Aahh, you can't but you know this guy who can.
Riiiiight. Uh-huh. Yup. Sure you do.
The only way to trace people's IP addresses is to put a link up in a post or in a room to a website that you administer. If you ONLY put the link up on your own site and invite your victim to that site and they visit your web server, THEN you might actually have something. If you put the link up on any site or forum, well!!!Since you administer that website and that web server you log the IP addresses of all the browsers that visit the site. That's easy to do, lots of basic administrator tools do that anyway.
Can that be done? Sure!!! BUT then you have to:
1. Have access the web server (brain-dead easy to run a web server these days), but have you done it?
2. Own the domain, that, or you reveal the IP address of the web server. Well, domains cost seventy five bucks for two years, easily within the monetary range of the obsessive. That'll give you a pointer account with Verio, and they'll point traffic to your server. BTW, showing your servers IP address is moot anyway because a reverse DNS lookup will tell anyone who cares what the hostname is/IP address is of your server. You're trapping your victims IP address, but giving up your own in the process??? Aaaah, can we talk about how stupid you are, here??? When we're done with that can we talk about how obsessed you are???
But I digress.
3. OK so now you've tagged some number of IP addresses that have visited your web server in a given time because you put a link up on YOUR site. How do you know which one is the one that belongs to your intended victim, or the one you obsess over??? Which one of the 50 browsers who visited YOUR site because you put the link up on YOUR SITE is THE ONE??? I suppose you could do DNS lookups on all the folks who visit. Now, it could be that they're visiting your site from work. If that's the case then a reverse DNS lookup will tell you, maybe, where they work. Maybe. Maybe not. That depends on how the companys network admin team configures their hostnames. But that's 50, or God knows how many bits of information you don't need!!! How do you know which one is the right one, the one that belongs to your victim?
I guess if you put the link up on a private site and nobody else has the password to it and they click on the link you've left there, you'll have their IP address and host name. That great, but wait, you're not done, yet.
You know that most ISP's distribute IP addresses by something called DHCP. What that means from a practical standpoint is that the ISP has a pool of IP addresses and they hand them out to their customers as they long on. So Your Victim has 173.32.133.23 today, but tomorrow they'll have 193.32.136.4
It changes, see? So, what if you know their IP address right now, it won't do you any good. Well, I suppose it'll do SOMETHING, a reverse DNS lookup of that IP address will tell you who their ISP is.
What do you do if your reverse DNS lookup reveals that the IP address you just trapped goes back to Earthlink or AOL? Whoop-de-doo, your victim happens to have an internet account at earthlink. So what??? What's that going to do for you??? The next time they log on they'll probably pull a different address, so knowing the one they have on this session doesn't do you any good!!! If they're using a DSL then they might have a static address and will use it over and over again. So I suppose you could try to hack their machine via the IP address if they're using DSL. Maybe if you were a really good hacker you could do that.
But I ask you, how can you go from the IP address to their name and home address and home telephone number? How are you going to be able to find out that the IP address of 124.55.62.126 leads to Joe Schlabotnick, residing at 69 Inyourface Way, Scrotum, New Jersey, telephone number 699-6969??? What're you gonna do, hack into Earthlink or AOL's customer data files??? I don't **think** so.
So all this huzzah about tracking IP addresses and IP tracers leading back to any real information that can be used to hurt someone is a bunch of hogwash.
If you want to worry about someone stealing your identity, your time is better spent chewing up old credit card receipts than worrying about IP security.
***************
But go ahead, ye of great knowledge and ye of even greater paranoia. EXPLAIN to me how you, or the ones you hate can technologically FIND YOU from a post you make at a site. Don't hide behind mumbo-jumbo like "IP Tracer", which is a crock of shit. Just tell me in real network lingo. Prove me wrong. I'm waiting!!!
