Congress Looking For Lost $$

[djv]

Caught just a little on CSPAN today house Investigating where 8 billion went missing in Iraq. Had some bean counters that were to help look after this. And they brought in old Brenner back that was heading things up when this happen.
Sounded like they were dam near handing out cash from paper bags. This is one of those little losses the old congress wouldn't touch. Things seem a little different now with new sheriff.
In any case it's gone. Just more tax money peed away.

 

[Underbar]

Nah, it's just frozen in Neteller.

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

one thing for iraqi's to steal it--quite another for U.S. citizens--

Show Me the Money

Last week New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin complained to Congress that his city is being shortchanged in its effort to rebuild after Hurricane Katrina ? and not getting promised funds fast enough. But it turns out the federal government is actually trying to recover more than $300 million in grants it should not have paid ? the result of fraudulent applications.

The AP reports FEMA believes nearly 70,000 Louisiana households improperly benefited. It says applicants received compensation for almost 163,000 homes that did not even exist before the storm. The Justice Department has so far prosecuted more than 400 people for storm-related fraud ? and recovered about $18 million.

 

[Chadman]

What is your point on this, Wayne? Both situations are of course wrong. Is stealing better if Iraqi's do it than if U.S. citizens do it?

And, I think the stealing that we are talking about with the funds in Iraq are contractors and companies there that cannot explain where the money they received from our government went. I won't even mention the obvious connections within our government...as most of us know the story there. It's just that some choose to change the subject or don't seemed bothered by that.

But New Orleans...Man, that is REALLY bad stuff.

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

doesn't make any diff which party-which country or what ever--if there is money involved there will be stealing--the greater the amount involved the greater the theft--and the worse culprit I have seen in my time is the U.N.

 

[djv]

Maybe if they get time they can look into that 300 million. That last congress didn't give a dam about either. And at same time about another 50 million in on used trailers sent. That sit there in to different states. But if I want results i'll look for 8 billion first.

 

[WhatsHisNuts]

What is your point on this, Wayne? Both situations are of course wrong. Is stealing better if Iraqi's do it than if U.S. citizens do it?

You expected him to address the issue you presented? That's just plain foolish on your part.

 

[Jabberwocky]

You expected him to address the issue you presented? That's just plain foolish on your part.

no different than the rest of the thieving imbecilic republican congressmen. The responses were so comical and sad, ranging from "when you put it on a forklift 8 billion dollars seems like alot of money, but..." to "if look back at WWll under FDR, there was alot of money that disappeared too." Are these assclowns for real? The sad thing is that this is just the tip of the iceberg and the vast majority of the thievery is legal and sanctioned under the "no bid" kickbacks to the Bush cronies. But non of this troubles "conservatives". What a fvcking joke.

 

[danmurphy jr]

Folk, it was 350 PALLETS of Cash from Fort Knox. $8.8 Billion of $12.5 Billion missing.

 

[Pujo21]

why don't they start with Kelly and crapgame and oddball.

if that don't work, maybe they should take a look at scumbag cheney.

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

I'd have to say stealing would be worse by U.S. citizens than Iraq'is in my view--but thats just me--of course I will admit N.O. was bad example of ave citizen.

 

[The Sponge]

no different than the rest of the thieving imbecilic republican congressmen. The responses were so comical and sad, ranging from "when you put it on a forklift 8 billion dollars seems like alot of money, but..." to "if look back at WWll under FDR, there was alot of money that disappeared too." Are these assclowns for real? The sad thing is that this is just the tip of the iceberg and the vast majority of the thievery is legal and sanctioned under the "no bid" kickbacks to the Bush cronies. But non of this troubles "conservatives". What a fvcking joke.

Throw in the four 100 million dollar no bid contracts in New Orleans that have swelled to 3.2 billion on top of that mess. doesn't seem to bother the right wingers at all. It would be nice to just label our taxes right out of our checks to see where it is all going because then it might bother these rightwingers. Since they live and die cash. what is happening here is this Waxman fellow looks like the real deal and the current administration taunted him for six years and now its payback time. This guy has a chip on his shoulder. Might find him dead soon.

 

[Chadman]

I'd have to say stealing would be worse by U.S. citizens than Iraq'is in my view--but thats just me--of course I will admit N.O. was bad example of ave citizen.

So then, I would assume that U.S. citizens, working in Iraq under the guise of helping Iraqis and/or rebuilding the country, that steal or take money for work not done, would be somewhat equal to U.S. citizens in Katrina-related areas. I would submit that it is somewhat more insidious, but each case would be different, I guess.

The biggest offenders in my mind would be the big corporations that have already admitted to - and being convicted of - fraud and stealing money, but continue to receive funds and contracts afterwards. This ads an entirely new level stealing in my mind - inclusive of those people that allow it to happen, or make sure that it happens.

A little more than just a person trying to falsify documents to make a few thousand bucks, or some such thing. At least from my standpoint as a taxpayer, that is. I always find it more funny when those that complain about high taxes can somehow gloss over the really big and isidious (must be my word of the day, and not sure I'm even spelling it right...ha) stuff, but go after the smaller fish to somehow prove a point.

 

[StevieD]

Look if it is a guy stealing a loaf of bread to feed his family the Righties want to cut his hands off. But if it is a corporation stealing Billions they kind of admire it and call it free enterprise. It's all about the numbers. I am not sure where the cutoff is when they go from condemning to to worshiping it. But make no doubt about it there is a cutoff.

 

[The Sponge]

Look if it is a guy stealing a loaf of bread to feed his family the Righties want to cut his hands off. But if it is a corporation stealing Billions they kind of admire it and call it free enterprise. It's all about the numbers. I am not sure where the cutoff is when they go from condemning to to worshiping it. But make no doubt about it there is a cutoff.

Stevie help me here. Why do the righties not mine this? This is probably the single most topic i have written about since i started posting. Why is this stealing okay? Are they misinformed? Are they just assholes? Why do they tolerate this stealing of their very own money and it doesn't seem to bother them one bit yet petty shit does? Isn't this topic being discussed on Fox News or with Rush boy? Or is it just that in their delusional world they want to be filthy rich so its bred into them that someday they will be filthy rich? So in essence when the rich steal it is okay with them. Or did the petty tax break we got which got pissed away on energy cost plus a lot more, blinded their senses?

 

[StevieD]

Stevie help me here. Why do the righties not mine this? This is probably the single most topic i have written about since i started posting. Why is this stealing okay? Are they misinformed? Are they just assholes? Why do they tolerate this stealing of their very own money and it doesn't seem to bother them one bit yet petty shit does? Isn't this topic being discussed on Fox News or with Rush boy? Or is it just that in their delusional world they want to be filthy rich so its bred into them that someday they will be filthy rich? So in essence when the rich steal it is okay with them. Or did the petty tax break we got which got pissed away on energy cost plus a lot more, blinded their senses?

I can't help you here Sponge. I don't know how they think. Except to say they worship the rich. Give a CEO $400 million to LEAVE a company and they are ok with that. But give a worker a 5 cent raise and they scream socialism.
Why are they willing to give a half a trillion dollars to Iraq and don't bat an eye but get all flustered because of Katrina Aid? :shrug:

 

[JCDunkDogs]

Fellas, all this stealing and corporate bad acts are the direct fault of Bill Clinton. His poor morals and lax leadership have created an atmosphere of illegality.

 

[The Sponge]

I can't help you here Sponge. I don't know how they think. Except to say they worship the rich. Give a CEO $400 million to LEAVE a company and they are ok with that. But give a worker a 5 cent raise and they scream socialism.
Why are they willing to give a half a trillion dollars to Iraq and don't bat an eye but get all flustered because of Katrina Aid? :shrug:

I think you answered my question. "They worship the rich" Got to be it.