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47.7 million Americans now on foodstamps as 607k become eligible this month.

Before I am flamed, I am not blaming this on the President. It is just a sad fact.

A million Americans entered the rolls of the impoverished in the past 2 months.
Again, another sad fact.

For all the news headlines about new jobs, and the economy recovering, statistics and facts like this offer a sobering look at the new normal in the USA.

I would say it is not getting better.

Again, I do not blame - or solely blame - this President.

The Asshats in Congress - both parties - as well as the current and past administrations - have led us here.

The Great Financial Crisis in 2008 offered America a chance to change course. Unfortunately, we did not. America followed the path of Japan, debasing the currency and throwing great gobs of money at problems with no real plan.

Iceland did it differently. They prosecuted the perpetrators of the fraud. They protected the taxpayers over the big banks; creditors took losses on loans and bonds, not the little people.
And, Iceland is growing, thriving, again.

Here is a link:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2012-12-08/guest-post-icelandic-success-story

The very first picture in the link tells a thousand words.
 

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Iceland did it differently. They prosecuted the perpetrators of the fraud. They protected the taxpayers over the big banks; creditors took losses on loans and bonds, not the little people.
And, Iceland is growing, thriving, again.

That's the kind of shit that happens when you live in a Socialist country like Iceland.

Oops! Sorry to keep confusing you with facts. :mj07:
 

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Not so concerned with the political climate of Iceland.

The leadership there, irregardless of party, did the right thing.

Something the USA is entirely bereft of.


and actually, it looks like the leaders wanted to do bailouts, etc but the citizens stopped it

http://www.globalresearch.ca/video-no-bailouts-in-iceland/18023

http://www.globalresearch.ca/why-iceland-voted-no-to-the-diktats-of-the-creditor-banks/24262

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-protest-movement-financial-fraud-in-iceland/21308
 

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Not so concerned with the political climate of Iceland.


You should be concerned with political climate.

The architects of the bailout were bankers and ex-bankers in high government positions. Many of the politicians who should have stood up were bought by bankers and other special interests.

It's bribery, pure and simple.

Just as the wages if sin is death, the wages of unfettered capitalism is bribery and political actions which place the welfare of capitalists above the welfare of ordinary people.

The bankers get rich and everyone else gets fucked.
 

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Not so concerned with the political climate of Iceland.

The leadership there, irregardless of party, did the right thing.

Something the USA is entirely bereft of.

Irregardless?


Is that like bare arms?

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Not sure I follow you, yyz.

The word is spelled properly and used properly.

But thanks for trolling!

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Not sure I follow you, yyz.

The word is spelled properly and used properly.

But thanks for trolling!

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Sorry, but yyz is right. Irregardless is frowned upon by many. It is a hybrid of regardless and irrespective - credited to Americans.

From Meriam-Webster:

Irregardless originated in dialectal American speech in the early 20th century. Its fairly widespread use in speech called it to the attention of usage commentators as early as 1927. The most frequently repeated remark about it is that ?there is no such word.? There is such a word, however. It is still used primarily in speech, although it can be found from time to time in edited prose. Its reputation has not risen over the years, and it is still a long way from general acceptance. Use regardless instead.

From Oxford:

usage: Irregardless is widely heard, perhaps arising under the influence of such perfectly correct forms as irrespective, but should be avoided by careful users of English. Use regardless to mean ?without regard or consideration for? or ?nevertheless?.

Peace! :)
 

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It's jes' one a' them misfortunate thangs.

-Anthony Joseph Foyt - who is not a grammarian, but has balls of steel.
 

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hahaha -

OK - thanks, Cherry.

You mean the WORD that I used, that is not a WORD, is in the Oxford and Webster dictionaries - a book that defines WORDS?

Oh, this is rich.

Arguing with Idiots.
 

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hahaha -

OK - thanks, Cherry.

You mean the WORD that I used, that is not a WORD, is in the Oxford and Webster dictionaries - a book that defines WORDS?

Oh, this is rich.

Arguing with Idiots.

Whoa! What's with the insults? I was just attempting to illuminate you. However, if you choose to remain ignorant AND wrong, then so be it.

And yes, even Oxford contains "words" that are colloquialisms and incorrect. They are included with an explanation why they are incorrect. Perhaps I should have copied the entire thing in the first place. I was lazy. My bad.

irregardless
Pronunciation: /ˌɪrɪˈgɑːdlɪs/

Definition of irregardless
adjective & adverb
informal

regardless: the photographer always says, irregardless of how his subjects are feeling, ?Smile!?

Origin:

mid 19th century: probably a blend of irrespective and regardless

Irregardless means the same as regardless, but the negative prefix ir- merely duplicates the suffix -less, and is unnecessary. The word dates back to the 19th century, but is regarded as incorrect in standard English.



So there you go. "Regarded as incorrect" and
explained why it is so by Oxford. Hence, its inclusion in the dictionary.

So again, yyz was right in the first place.

'Nuff said! LOL
 

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OK, Cherry.

One of my oldest friends is an English professor at a well-regarded university in Ohio as well as an accomplished and published poet.
He uses the word irregardless.

Sorry for the insult
 

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OK, Cherry.

One of my oldest friends is an English professor at a well-regarded university in Ohio as well as an accomplished and published poet.
He uses the word irregardless.

Sorry for the insult

Apology accepted! :)

Who is your friend? I may know (of) him - although we're in different disciplines.

Peace!
 

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OK, Cherry.

One of my oldest friends is an English professor at a well-regarded university in Ohio as well as an accomplished and published poet.
He uses the word irregardless.


If he's as arrogant as you, I would expect he DOES use that word and thinks it's acceptable.

You don't need to be a professor to know the word is unacceptable, anymore than I need to be a veterinarian to tell you're a horse's ass.
 
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Thanks, yyz.

Coming from you, I think that is a compliment.


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yyz:
By the way, this friend is a bleeding heart liberal, hates guns and wants strict gun control measures and has never held a job in his life outside of academia.
We were friends long before politics mattered to us and remain so to this day.
We can disagree on the issues and still have a hearty debate and remain friends.

It's interesting - he knows me and my politics and beliefs - and knows I'm not and would never call me an arrogant ass.

You, on the other hand, know relatively little about me but since my views do not align with yours, consider me an arrogant ass.

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yyz:
By the way, this friend is a bleeding heart liberal, hates guns and wants strict gun control measures and has never held a job in his life outside of academia.
We were friends long before politics mattered to us and remain so to this day.
We can disagree on the issues and still have a hearty debate and remain friends.

It's interesting - he knows me and my politics and beliefs - and knows I'm not and would never call me an arrogant ass.

You, on the other hand, know relatively little about me but since my views do not align with yours, consider me an arrogant ass.

:shrug:

Wrong. I called you an arrogant ass, because you refuse to accept the fact that you are wrong on a stupid fuck up of a 'word'.

But, now I can add in that you were arrogant enough to think your 'views' were the reason.
 
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