Crocs vs. Lions

Felonious Monk

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Which would win in a fight between a crocodile and a lion?

It appears many are divided on this contentious issue. I sent this email to Steve Irwin (aka The Crocodile Hunter) to settle this once and for all and have not heard back from him. I am therefore throwing it open for discussion on MadJacks.

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Steve & Teri,

Wonder if you could shed some light on a serious question I have. Which would win in a fight: An Australian Saltwater Crocodile, the largest and most aggressive of all reptiles, or a full grown male Lion, the king of the jungle.

The contest would take place inside the famous coliseum in Rome and would resemble a no-rules grudge match fight to the death. We also assume that the lion and the croc actually have the intention of killing each other.

It is my contention that, in this environment, the lion would circle the croc, pulling its tail and wearing it out until the croc couldn't resist. At which point the lion would leap on the crocs back and kill it.

The basis of this theory depends on the croc wearing out. On an episode of your show, you trapped a large croc and moved it away from a populated area.

The croc was putting up somewhat of a struggle and, if I remember correctly, you were concerned about the possibility of death from lactic acid build-up in the croc's system.

Lactic acid build-up, and its debilitating effects on the croc, is the foundation of my arguement in favor of the lion in this contest. What is your take on the effects of lactic acid build-up in a croc's system in the context of a battle to the death with a lion?

The opposing "croc-centric" view is that the croc would be quick enough to catch the lion in its jaws and then death-roll it to pieces. I believe that this view rests on the notion that a lion would charge a croc and attack it directly. In that circumstance, I agree, a croc could do significant damage
to a lion; however, I think that lions are more cautious than that against opponents where they know injury could result.

Also, if you think that the lion would win, what if it was raining? Would that change your answer?

I have one more question for you. A "croc-centric" proponent raised the issue that crocs are fast and can reach speeds of up to 40 mph (64 kmph).

What is the top land speed for a full sized salty and how long can a croc travel at maximum velocity? I thought that perhaps a freshy or a small salty could run that fast, but I'm skeptical that a full sized salty could keep that speed over any meaningful distance.

Thank you for any assistance you can provide in this matter.

PS - You might consider mentioning this question on the show along with a discussion of your conclusion. The world needs to know once and for all.
 

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living in fl for over 18 years and 7 of those right down gy they glades i would have to take the croc hands down,i have seen what gators can do and croc's are even meaner and grow much bigger so would go with the croc no contest.
 

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back in 70s bought a baby caiman (dont know the spelling, but a species of alligator or something). brought it back to ohio and feed it minnows. dam thing grew to about two feet over the summer and about sliced my thumb off one day.

having never tried to raise a lion, i'm going with the croc to win.
in under 3 rounds.

:)
 

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Mate, having a Biology degree, im sure i know the answer. First off, the crocs skin is 4 inches thick, no way in hell would the teeth of a lion penetrate it. Lets compare that to the skin of a lion, sure its tough, but only 3/8 " thich. One good lashing, and the inerds would fall to the ground!
Id give the lion a +4500 ML on that one :)
 

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The Lions were terrible last year, and I doubt they would get that win against the croc, but Matt Millen might have them study the film a little before this one.
 

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I would go with the lion on dry land but if there were even a 6 in puddle i would have to say that the croc would take it.
 

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Kriecky Monk, are you counting the days to March 14th or what? you need to get out of the house or somehting! Just go for a walk! Or how about a little laugh!

But I'll try to answer your question anyway!

Scenario: Lion vs. Croc. The Lion would probably take the croc out for a nice meal maybe even a movie then ask hey would you like to come back over and try out my new hot tub? Hey that sounds great, you got any booze, oh hell yeah the Lion answers! So off to the crib they go! once they get there they have a few drinks and so forth then into the hot tub for some hijinks, the next thing you know the croc is swinging from the lampshade with a spoon in its butt hollering something about fritos and mayonaise! The next morning the Lion awakes to a messed up fro and house with a note on the table that says thanks for the good time last night I'll call you when the time is right!


Who wins, they both got what they wanted, a good one nighter that the both of them will remember for at least a month or so or untill they meet again in the Jungle!
 

Felonious Monk

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Here's another one for ya.

In the water hole, who is more feared, the crocodile or the Hippo? A: The hippo. Croc's want no part of the Hippo...they can crush a croc w/ one clamp of the jaw and are actually quite the asshole from what I here. Not too much is nice in the demeanor of the Hippo. Would you be nice if you had to be a Hippo? I did not think so. The hippo kills more people in Africa each year than any other animal, by the way.
 
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