Cuse and Bama ..and a cadillic deVille..

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Cuse -4 over Memphis
Both teams are going thru new scoring options.Memphis lost DeJuan Wagner who not only scored many pts but handled the ball a lot.Wise graduated and McFadden transferred.Thats a lot of pts and bds to lose.Throw in Burks the pt gd who is suspended for 3 games.He drove a Cadillac de Ville over the summer that wasn't his.He is Calipari's player to run the offense.Hunt a 2 gd not a pt gd will replace him for the next 3 games.
Cuse lost Shumpert and Williams who transferred to Iona.On top of that Cuses pt gd Edelin is also suspended.He must of got a ride in the de Ville.
Memphis has 7'0 Barron back and he is a workhorse.He avg 9 pts and 5 bds a game.Around him are some role players in Grice,Carney,etc.They have Richmond and Massie ready in Jan.Rice is there outside threat.
Big weakness is in the paint.Barron doesn't have to much help.

Cuse has Carmela Anthony.All everything in HS.But this kid is battle ready.He played in AAU tourneys with top talent.Called a "phenom" he will live up to his billing.He can score,rebound,pass,etc.He is the type of player that makes everyone better.And that is the key.Shumpert and Willians made nobody better.
Boe has some talent back.Duany and Warrick are slashers at 6'6 and 6'8.Forth is 7'and has improved.Off the bench is "he man' McNeil at 6'8 260.
Super frosh from Scranton,Pa is McNamara at pt until Edelin comes back.Duany at 6'6 is playing gd.

The main question about tomr's nite game is which team learns how to play together with all the new characters in the "play".Who are the leading actors,supporting actors,and stage hands.

Boe's team play more free lance and will fast break with a Carmelo.Calipari's team are coached better and play great defense.Lyr his team was ranked 13th in defense and one of the best in FG % and 3 pt. shooting defense.
You have one of the best practice coaches in Calipari going against one of the worst in Jimmy Boe.But Boe is a good coach.He really has a bad rep.

Boe will run his 2-3 defense.He did play the other nite vs.the All stars man/man but he will go zone.And why not.Memphis has its best shooter playing pt.And Memphis the other nite playing another All Star team asked the team to play a 2-3 zone to get ready for the Orange.And memphis had a tough nite shooting.
Rice lyr was the Tigers 4th option to score.Now he is being asked to be the No.1 option if Barron doesn't get the ball.Anthony is the No.1 option to do everything.Memphis one solid player is Barron.But the zone will negate some of that.Cuse can drop a gd or fd down to help out on Barron.
Memphis will have matchup problems with Cuse.Playing Carmelo man could be tough.
Memphis inside game is somewhat weak outside of
Barron and I'm not sure if they can shoot the ball over the 2-3 zone.Cuse has some beef and greyhounds.

It's still early in the season but I think its showtime for Carmelo in the Garden.Cuse wins this by 6-10 pts.But Cuse could blow them out too.


Will post Bama +4.5 over Oklahoma tomr.
Like Bama a lot in this one.
 

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Does this man Know his cbb...or what??

Does this man Know his cbb...or what??

Box,

If there are better cbb posts anywhere I have not seen them!
Startin up where ya left off..Once again , Great Job! I get new insights from all your cbb posts
I will not be surprised at whatever happens in this game.
Logic tells me to play the "Cuse" but I've seen good CT teams struggle against Quinnipiac early in the season.
At best, both teams will probably struggle some with so many new faces.
No doubt that Jimmy B has the better talent and should get the better of this.

Good Luck
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I'm with ya on bama box and one - good luck this year in college hoops


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hey box

hey box

HS hoops starting next monday here, so I gotta get yelling voice in gear ;) ...

I willl read your Bama write-up with great interest, thanx for the great stuff on Anthony and Cuse ...

My lasting impression of Bama was their utterly gutless effort vs Golden Flashes last march in NCAAs ... I foolishly thought Bama would show up (hehe, do I sound bitter cuz Bama stole my coin on that one?) ... Will be curious why you think they will hang with a tough nosed Sampson team ... I was about to play OU but will hold off for your insight, maybe a no play even ...

What do you think about the UNDERS, isnt that usually the way to go in these MSG early season games?


anyway, my man, good to see your stuff!

take care, gregg
 

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Still like the Cuse -4.5
Like Bama +4.5 tonite over OU.
This team has talent all over.Dudley is listed as a 1st team all american in many polls.He was the SEC POY lyr.Just awesome talent.Can stick a 15 ft jumper and inside game is excellent.Walker at center is tough.Shelton and Meade are solid gds.But their best player is Mo Williams at the pt.If you have not seen "Mo" play you will be in love with him.One of the best pt gds in the nation.He can score,pass,dribble,etc.He will elevate everyones game.Bama is loaded.They have strength inside,speed,rebounding,defense,experience[4 starters back]and a pt gd that will control the game.Add a few newcomers in Davis,Brock and Thomas.They will blend in.They lost solo artist Grizzard.

OU returns a vetrean team that went 31-5 and to the NCAA's final 4.Jabari Brown inside is a threat.Ere,White,and Price are one of the 3 best gd combo in the country.Price of course has range from row 3.Bookout is the 6'8 260 Fr.and is a monster inside He throws the shot put and can shoot 3's.Detrick is being red shirted.Price is the B-12 POY.
But OU's weakness in the beginning of the season should be their inside play.Once this team plays together their inside presence will be tough.But that takes time to develop.Losing McGhee and Selvy was almost all their scoring excepth for Jabari's 5 or 5 pts a game.
OU plays great D.Sampson kids are all over the court.
But Bama's inside game is to strong for them.Dudley inside will cause matchup problems.OU's defense will have a tough time with "Mo" Williams running the floor.
OU will have trouble defending the post tonite.I know their pre-ranked in the top 3 or 4.But Bama has just as many greyhounds and a guy named Dudley.They should cover this game and can easily win outright.

These are the 1st games of the season.No one really knows what will happen tonite.Play these games kinda lightly.Plus the new rules are in effect.OU does get a break with the bigger paint area.But then Hollis must stick his jumper a foot further.Even angle their.


Pt gd-good luck with your team.No idea on the over-under.
 

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box...thanks for the bama' play.

cuse' kid couldn't hit the ft's, plus early hole didnt help......

you derseve more hits on your threads than you are getting...

i've been following you since TS and i have to say you provide great write-ups and you know the game inside-out.

guys....this man is sharp.....
 

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one more thing.....

box and one's "luv" plays are as valuable as raymonds "outlaws" plays......
 

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Cuse game was pretty ugly.You can see calipari kids are better coached.Even though some of those shots memphis took got some lucky bounces.But Memphis kids just played harder.Defense and rebounding was the key.Cuse needs a lot of work.
Cuse made a lot of mental errors.A couple of lane violations,etc
Anthony made a nice debut.But Duany and Warrick were lost.Mac looked good.

At least bama looked good.Got a little scared at the end.But Mo played great.Bama at home this yr is usually a pretty good play.There are 47-7 with an ats record of 25-15 the past 4 yrs.With the team they have this yr they should cover most of their games.

Thanks ninja for the kind words.Fluk and Valuist at least you hit on the Bama game. Bear you were smart laying off the Cuse.Jimbo at Conn will eat the Cuse alive if they play like they did tonite
 

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hey box

hey box

thanx for saving me on the bama ... I didnt play either side cuz at my darn school you cant acccess any of this "bad" stuff, hehe ...

I did take both unders and thought Id lose Cuse when I left school late in FH after checking score ...

what about OU vs Cuse, is there gonna be a line? Bama over memphis by 6?

I taped both college games and will watch them tonight ...

really enjoy your insight,
gregg:D
 
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