DID BUSH LIE??? or did everyone else?

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After accussing the president of lying about WMD's and saying Iraq was not a threat, this man wants to be your next president!!!! LOL!
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--- Sen. JOHN KERRY (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003 QUOTE--

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam
Hussein
. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation .. And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction...
So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real."
 
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how about how this fool based his whole convention on how Bush misled America (despite himself saying the same thing)

now, the clown jumps on Bush for not guarding the ammunition stockpile irregardless of when the stockpile was moved!!! Blantantly misguiding everyone!!!

Unreal.
 

spibble spab

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who gives a fcukk you stoopid idiot
the spelling bea websyte is abuot 3 dores down

oh. i foregot, you're know suposed to tipe in the numbir three
i shuold have tiped it owt so ewe can understand the poiynt im trieng to get acrossed.
i geus that meens dr freaze and I are both nba playirs :grouphug:
 

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"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapon stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
------ Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002
 

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"I will be voting to give the President of the
United States the authority to use force-- if
necessary-- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I
believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass
destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat
to our security
."

----------------------- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002
 

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Can you please post the entire speech from John Kerry and Hillary Clinton. You'll see that they are truly visionary speeches which predicted the very quagmire that we find ourselves in.
 

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The whole speech is a YAWNER!!

Here's some more meat and potatoes for ya.....


"We are in possession of what I think to be
compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has
had for a number of years, a developing capacity for
the production and storage of weapons of mass
destruction."
------------ - Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002
 

Chanman

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BobbyBlueChip said:
Can you please post the entire speech from John Kerry and Hillary Clinton. You'll see that they are truly visionary speeches which predicted the very quagmire that we find ourselves in.

W/all due respect Bobby- I think you have used the word predicted instead of complained. Let the voters decide, but I just can't see Team Kerry & Hillary fighting terrorism, much less leading the military. If it doesn't happen this time- I'm sure Hillary will give it a shot in 2008 :scared
 

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"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein
is working aggressively to develop nuclear
weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within
the next five years ... We also should remember we
have always underestimated the progress Saddam has
made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002


Ummmm.....Bobby Bluedick????

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President Bush's Iraq debacle squandered the global support this nation enjoyed after Sept. 11 and divided a nation that came together as one in the wake of that attack. He destroyed his own credibility when everything he said about Iraq turned out to be wrong. He rushed into a war without allies, without sufficient forces and without a plan for victory. We pay the price in casualties, with more than 1,000 lives lost, and in cost, growing at $1 billion a week, while providing al-Qaida with a cause that has won it new recruits across the world.
 

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"Saddam has systematically violated, over the
course of the past 11 years, every significant UN
resolution that has demanded that he disarm and
destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any
nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do."
- Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002
 

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With all due respect, Chanman, Here?s the speech where President Elect Kerry authorized the use of force. He knew exactly what the result would be if we went in unilaterally (or as the case may be with 10,000 troops from Australia and the UK and some police departments from Poland, Bolivia, Trinidad and Tobago and whoever else was in the ?coalition? (sic) . Compare his understanding of what would happen as opposed to the boobs in the present administration who expected that the troops would be met with flowers. Charlie, Get someone to read this to you. It may be enlightening

When I vote to give the President of the United States the authority to use force, if necessary, to disarm Saddam Hussein, it is because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a threat, and a grave threat, to our security and that of our allies in the Persian Gulf region. I will vote yes because I believe it is the best way to hold Saddam Hussein accountable. And the administration, I believe, is now committed to a recognition that war must be the last option to address this threat, not the first, and that we must act in concert with allies around the globe to make the world's case against Saddam Hussein.

Let me be clear, the vote I will give to the President is for one reason and one reason only: To disarm Iraq of weapons of mass destruction, if we cannot accomplish that objective through new, tough weapons inspections in joint concert with our allies.

In giving the President this authority, I expect him to fulfill the commitments he has made to the American people in recent days ? to work with the United Nations Security Council to adopt a new resolution setting out tough and immediate inspection requirements, and to act with our allies at our side if we have to disarm Saddam Hussein by force. If he fails to do so, I will be among the first to speak out.

If we do wind up going to war with Iraq, it is imperative that we do so with others in the international community, unless there is a showing of a grave, imminent ? and I emphasize "imminent" ? threat to this country which requires the President to respond in a way that protects our immediate national security needs.

Prime Minister Tony Blair has recognized a similar need to distinguish how we approach this. He has said that he believes we should move in concert with allies, and he has promised his own party that he will not do so otherwise. The administration may not be in the habit of building coalitions, but that is what they need to do. And it is what can be done. If we go it alone without reason, we risk inflaming an entire region, breeding a new generation of terrorists, a new cadre of anti-American zealots, and we will be less secure, not more secure, at the end of the day, even with Saddam Hussein disarmed.

Let there be no doubt or confusion about where we stand on this. I will support a multilateral effort to disarm him by force, if we ever exhaust those other options, as the President has promised, but I will not support a unilateral U.S. war against Iraq unless that threat is imminent and the multilateral effort has not proven possible under any circumstances.

In voting to grant the President the authority, I am not giving him carte blanche to run roughshod over every country that poses or may pose some kind of potential threat to the United States. Every nation has the right to act preemptively, if it faces an imminent and grave threat, for its self-defense under the standards of law. The threat we face today with Iraq does not meet that test yet. I emphasize "yet." Yes, it is grave because of the deadliness of Saddam Hussein's arsenal and the very high probability that he might use these weapons one day if not disarmed. But it is not imminent, and no one in the CIA, no intelligence briefing we have had suggests it is imminent. None of our intelligence reports suggest that he is about to launch an attack.

The argument for going to war against Iraq is rooted in enforcement of the international community's demand that he disarm. It is not rooted in the doctrine of preemption. Nor is the grant of authority in this resolution an acknowledgment that Congress accepts or agrees with the President's new strategic doctrine of preemption. Just the opposite. This resolution clearly limits the authority given to the President to use force in Iraq, and Iraq only, and for the specific purpose of defending the United States against the threat posed by Iraq and enforcing relevant Security Council resolutions.

The definition of purpose circumscribes the authority given to the President to the use of force to disarm Iraq because only Iraq's weapons of mass destruction meet the two criteria laid out in this resolution.
 
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